Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Satsu chaasatsu bhaaveshu naalasyaalasate kramaat Vibhaktavye ghasra raatreshwarkabhaa tamasee yathaa Just as light and darkness are distributed in day and night respectively, one should distribute agility and laziness between noble and malicious vows. In the previous two months, we discussed about laziness. Between laziness and agility, which is Bhaava Padaartha (that which has true existence) and which is Abhaava Padaartha? (that which does not have a true existence) ? "Why? Everyone knows that light is 'bhaava padartha' and darkness is 'abhaava padaartha'. Between agility and sluggishness, which is light and which is darkness?" "If it is so, it would have been proper if light (agility) was discussed first. But in the previous Sookti Manjaris, darkness (laziness) was discussed. Also, in the above Sookti, agility has been termed as Naalasyam (absence of laziness). Why is a negative term used here?" "You are saying that light is a Bhaava padaartha. According to you, what is light?" "That, in the presence of which objects can be seen is light." "What is darkness?" "Absence of light" "Why don't you say absence of darkness is light"? "Then we will have to first say what darkness is" "O.K. That, in the presence of which we can not see objects is darkness" "Is darkness visible to the eyes?" "Because it the eye which tells us that there is darkness, yes, it is visible" "O.K. All objects in the world can be seen clearly in the presence of light. In fact, finer details of the objects are revealed in bright light. Extending the logic, can we say that we can see the darkness better in light"? "Absurd. How is it possible?" "If light is capable of revealing the objects, and if according to your statement, darkness is also an object, why then does it become invisible with the advent of light?" O. K, let us make an amendment. Light is a formless object which comes in the way of visual perception." "Is it ever possible for a formless object to come between the eyes and another object so as to obstruct the vision? Can space and air, which do not have form, obstruct our vision?" "Now, let me think." "Good. Also think about this - if darkness were to be really an object and devoid of form, from where did it come?" "It came with the exit of light" "If you say so, is it not same as accepting that absence of light is darkness? What happened to your argument? Were you not trying all the time to prove the contrary?" "Yes, it is true" "Therefore it is not proper to say that absence of darkness itself is light. Light is a bhaava padaartha, which has true existence. We can actually see its source. (sun, candle etc.). It is therefore proper to first describe light and then say 'darkness is nothing but absence of light'" >From the above discussion, clearly one has to first describe agility and then say that lethargy is nothing but lack of agility. But, in the previous sookti manjaris, laziness has been described first and now, it is said - 'absence of laziness itself is agility. (Na + Aalasyam =Naalasyam = absence of laziness) What is the purpose behind this? Agility or laziness is revealed through actions. Still the above sookti seems to ignore this and is trying to describe about the nobility and maliciousness of purpose behind the actions. What purpose does it serve? In Sanskrit, there are several synonyms for laziness - Aalasya, Alasatva, Tandra, Deergha sootrika, Stabdhata etc. But there is no specific term for agility! All the words which mean agility are coined by adding a negative prefix to the words that represent laziness!! For e.g., Analasya, Atandra, Adeergha sootrika etc. How strange! All of you have heard the word 'Advaita'. Advaita means 'not two'. Why should we say 'not two'? Why not say 'Ekam'- 'one'? No, advaita does not mean 'one'. It is neither two nor one! When you count 'one', you actually are implying that you are different from THAT. Thus, when you count as 'one', you actually are acknowledging the existence of two objects - the 'counter' and the 'counted'. Thus it sums up to two! Such a state is not 'Advaita'. Therefore the state of 'Advaita' is not 'One'. It is not 'two' either. Thus, 'Advaita' is neither the absence of duality nor contrary to duality. It is not zero either!! It can not be represented by numbers! Though it is represented by a term with a negative prefix, it is not antagonistic to anything! Let us consider another example. 'Pratyaksha' means that which can be perceived by the sense organs. 'Paroksha' means that which can not be perceived by the sense organs. If there is something that can be perceived by bypassing the sense organs, what should it be called as? It is neither 'Pratyaksha' nor ' Paroksha'. For instance, you are able to perceive whether or not your mind is functioning. Do you need any sensory faculty to perceive it? No. It is not Pratyaksha nor Paroksha. Such perception is called as 'Aparoksha'. It may look like a negative word. Still, it does not have a negative meaning! The term Naalasyam (Anaalasyam=absence of laziness) used in the present Sookti is also one of such words. Laziness is Tamas. Agility is Rajas. The root cause for both is desire. Both manifest in actions. Both are like darkness. That which is neither of the above two is 'Anaalasya'. It is neither Tamas nor Rajas. It does not manifest in actions. It is hidden in the intentions and purpose behind the actions. It has nothing to do with desires. It is like Light. Its absence is Alasatva We have discussed about 'Lasatva' previously. It means 'that which shines'. ' Alasatva' is that which does not shine. It is lethargy or laziness. Can we call agility as 'Lasatva' and that which opposed to it - laziness- as 'Alasatva'? No! By doing so, we will be imposing Rajas in 'Lasatva'. We will also then imply that there is desire behind 'Lasatva'! Our culture has never accepted such 'rajasic' agility. Therefore there is no specific term to denote that in Sanskrit. Therefore, first 'Alasatva'(laziness) which is of the nature of darkness was described. Subsequently, agility, which is of the nature of Rajas was also discarded and finally, the term 'Analasatva' (=Naalasya=absence of laziness) was expounded to describe it's Satvic nature. Like the words 'Advaita', 'Aparoksha', the term 'Naalasya' too does not convey any negative meaning although possessing a negative prefix. Considering this concept, the present Sookti is elucidating the message very clearly. Let us see how. Does the sun cause the morning or is it that morning occurs first and then sun enters? The event of sun's entry itself is morning. This is the purport of the expression 'distributing light to the day'. 'Naalasya' is Satvic consciousness in nature and is neither laziness nor agility. The event of its entry in to the inner environment is Sadbhaava (noble vow, noble intention). That which contrary to this is 'Alasate'. Both rajas and Tamas are included in this. The event of its entry in to the inner environment is Asadbhava (malicious intention, malicious vow). SAT is Sattva Guna. ASAT is the combination of Rajas and Tamas. One should infuse pure 'Naalasya' in to SAT. ASAT has two parts. Rajas and Tamas. Between them, one should spread sluggishness in to Rajasic agility and agility in to Tamasic sluggishness. All this is related to intention, purpose and vow. Since all the activities are based on intentions, by infusing "naalasya" in to noble vows (noble intentions), the actions will be peaceful even if the Rajas is excited. Conversely, by infusing 'Alasatva' in malicious vows, potentially harmful acts can be avoided. This is what is needed for the world today. Sri Swamiji. from dattapeetham.com Jai Guru Datta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Jayagurudatta This is my first mail to , today some how i felt like sharing this message with you all, this is a miracle how Babayya takes care of our lives. Srigurudatta Jagan Jaya Datta.. Hope you are all doing well by the grace of Sri Swamiji. Here are everybody is good. I'm thinking taking buying home in Hyderabad..Let you know the details The below experience was happend few (1 month)days back.. Sri Datta Dolla, Kishore (IDS ECCS) Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:17 PM 'Venkateswar_Pydimarri' RE: BM-Complaints-170903 Jaya Guru Datta.. Mom is Good by the grace of Appaji..There was miracle.. 12th mid night, mom received a phone call from me (She thought its me, with my voice and all), in that call I was asking in hurry about How are mom ? How are everybody at home ? and all, as i was speaking very very dull..at 12.15 AM in the night. She was asking in the call Where is Ashok? , I said Ashok didn't reach room, actually Ashok went to movie that day, then She called up to ashok, saying that, "Go Home Kishore is not feeling well", He came to room, everybody in sound sleep, then he rang up to home and said Im ok.? Actually I was sleeing that time.I have also checked my house number in my cell call list, that is there as I wasn't called. that night from 9pm to 12 mid night, she is not feeling well with slite chest pain, earlier 4 yrs back she got this type of pain. I told to Pedananna, he is doctor, already he has given medicine, he is looking after.. In this way Appaji spoke to mom in that night, saved from danger.. I usually don't call after 9pm to home as they used to sleep at 8pm only.. I have been to home for one day. Im sending Germany details to Murthy garu, Howz ur training ? Everybody good at centre by the grace of Appaji, Harish coming to Mysore on Saturday. Sri datta Kishore Venkateswar_Pydimarri [Venkatp] Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:49 AM 'Dolla, Kishore (IDS ECCS) ' RE: BM-Complaints-170903 Kishore Jaya Guru Datta. How is mom? Hope she is alright. If needed, you may think of getting her to Hyderabad for any checkup or somesuch thing... Well. can you pl. also send the Germany details to Murty garu as you had sent the Canada details earlier (download, zip and send across) Sri Guru Datta Venkat PRESEVERENCE AND PERSISTENCE PAYS IN LIFE _______________ Get Married! http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?74 Search from 7 lakh Brides & Grooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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