Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 as per my dictionary of spiritual sanskrit words: nirdvandva: without pairs of opposite like suka, duhkha (joy and sorrow) etc, i.e. advaita in a way: "...duality never exists in you - there is no second to you..."JGD > Thanks Madeleine for the superb song on MATA. > > Can some one elaborate more on the meaning of the word > "nirdvandvika" ? > > I understand but elaboration will help more. > > Jai Guru Datta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Thanks Madeleine for the superb song on MATA. Can some one elaborate more on the meaning of the word "nirdvandvika" ? I understand but elaboration will help more. Jai Guru Datta. --- MadeleineHeiss wrote: > from Bhajana Mala IV > "Ragam: Mohana, Talam: Khandanada > > Kamesi Vamesi Me > Hrdi Sada Avasamangikuru > > bindau ca cakre ca loke ca tvam > citte ca vakye ca kaye ca tvam > vedavali tvam hi nadatmika tvam hi > satyam ca nityam ca nirdvandvika > > tvam kunkumarcabhir anandita > tvam puspamalabhir abhito vrta > sauvarna bhusabhir abhusita casi > tvam ratna simhasa nadhisthita > > puspani patrani salilani te > bhaktyarpitaniha modaya te > tvam mohanodara ragapriya devi > tvam saccidananda guru rupini > > Oh spouse of Lord Kamesvara, You reside in his left > side. > I pray to you to reside in my heart always. > > You reside in the Bindu and in the Cakra (in the > innermost center of > Sri Cakra and in the overall aspect of Sri Cakra) in > the entire universe, > in the mind of all creatures, in the words of all > beings, in all the bodies, > You are the form and the essence of the four vedas, > in the form of > Pranavaksara > (seed letter of initiation) and in the form of Nada > (primary sound). You are > truth and ever existent. Duality never exists in > You. There is nothing second > to You. Therefore I bow down to You. > > You favor devotees when Kumkum Arcana is performed > to You. You are best > adorned with > various flower garlands. You are adorned with gold > ornaments. You are seated > in the jewel bedecked throne. > > Beautiful flowers, sacred leaves and water are > offered in oblation with > utmost devotion > to You during pujas. They are offered to keep You > ever in joy. Your charm > enhances when > You listen to Mohana ragam ( a classical raga). You > are in the form of > Saccidananda and in the form of Sadguru." > > Who can tell me on which cd or tape this one can be > found? > > Jai Guru Datta > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Jaya Guru Datta Dwandwa = Dual One without a Dwandwa (or second) is Nirdwandwa Nirdwandwa itself is Nirdwandwika in poetic and grammatical expression. In philosophical expression, Sat is one. Only one. That is Brahman. It is none other than Devi, in this current context. Devi is one who has no one equalling her and surpassing her. Hence she can be called Adwaita or Nirdwandwa or Nirdwandwika. Jaya Guru Datta Vamshi Krishna Ghanapathi Mysore - "Gomata Varanasi" <eng_joy <MadeleineHeiss; <JAIGURUDATTA>; <dattavani> Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:07 AM Re: Kamesi Vamesi Me Hrdi Sada - nirdvandvika > > Thanks Madeleine for the superb song on MATA. > > Can some one elaborate more on the meaning of the word > "nirdvandvika" ? > > I understand but elaboration will help more. > > Jai Guru Datta. > > --- MadeleineHeiss wrote: > > from Bhajana Mala IV > > "Ragam: Mohana, Talam: Khandanada > > > > Kamesi Vamesi Me > > Hrdi Sada Avasamangikuru > > > > bindau ca cakre ca loke ca tvam > > citte ca vakye ca kaye ca tvam > > vedavali tvam hi nadatmika tvam hi > > satyam ca nityam ca nirdvandvika > > > > tvam kunkumarcabhir anandita > > tvam puspamalabhir abhito vrta > > sauvarna bhusabhir abhusita casi > > tvam ratna simhasa nadhisthita > > > > puspani patrani salilani te > > bhaktyarpitaniha modaya te > > tvam mohanodara ragapriya devi > > tvam saccidananda guru rupini > > > > Oh spouse of Lord Kamesvara, You reside in his left > > side. > > I pray to you to reside in my heart always. > > > > You reside in the Bindu and in the Cakra (in the > > innermost center of > > Sri Cakra and in the overall aspect of Sri Cakra) in > > the entire universe, > > in the mind of all creatures, in the words of all > > beings, in all the bodies, > > You are the form and the essence of the four vedas, > > in the form of > > Pranavaksara > > (seed letter of initiation) and in the form of Nada > > (primary sound). You are > > truth and ever existent. Duality never exists in > > You. There is nothing second > > to You. Therefore I bow down to You. > > > > You favor devotees when Kumkum Arcana is performed > > to You. You are best > > adorned with > > various flower garlands. You are adorned with gold > > ornaments. You are seated > > in the jewel bedecked throne. > > > > Beautiful flowers, sacred leaves and water are > > offered in oblation with > > utmost devotion > > to You during pujas. They are offered to keep You > > ever in joy. Your charm > > enhances when > > You listen to Mohana ragam ( a classical raga). You > > are in the form of > > Saccidananda and in the form of Sadguru." > > > > Who can tell me on which cd or tape this one can be > > found? > > > > Jai Guru Datta > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html > > Call INDIA at lower rates http://www.ethnicservices.com/ > > Post message: JAIGURUDATTA > > We apologize if you have received this mail in error. To from this list: send the line "" in the subject/body of a message to > JAIGURUDATTA-owner > > > > Links > > > JAIGURUDATTA/ > > > JAIGURUDATTA > > Your > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Jai Guru Datta! Please correct me if I am wrong, Nirdvandvika is the feminine form for the word Nirdvandva. Sri Guru Datta!! Kamesh Upadrashta - Vamshi Krishna Ghanapathi Gomata Varanasi Cc: JAIGURUDATTA ; dattavani Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:42 AM Re: Kamesi Vamesi Me Hrdi Sada - nirdvandvika Jaya Guru Datta Dwandwa = Dual One without a Dwandwa (or second) is Nirdwandwa Nirdwandwa itself is Nirdwandwika in poetic and grammatical expression. In philosophical expression, Sat is one. Only one. That is Brahman. It is none other than Devi, in this current context. Devi is one who has no one equalling her and surpassing her. Hence she can be called Adwaita or Nirdwandwa or Nirdwandwika. Jaya Guru Datta Vamshi Krishna Ghanapathi Mysore - "Gomata Varanasi" <eng_joy <MadeleineHeiss; <JAIGURUDATTA>; <dattavani> Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:07 AM Re: Kamesi Vamesi Me Hrdi Sada - nirdvandvika > > Thanks Madeleine for the superb song on MATA. > > Can some one elaborate more on the meaning of the word > "nirdvandvika" ? > > I understand but elaboration will help more. > > Jai Guru Datta. > > --- MadeleineHeiss wrote: > > from Bhajana Mala IV > > "Ragam: Mohana, Talam: Khandanada > > > > Kamesi Vamesi Me > > Hrdi Sada Avasamangikuru > > > > bindau ca cakre ca loke ca tvam > > citte ca vakye ca kaye ca tvam > > vedavali tvam hi nadatmika tvam hi > > satyam ca nityam ca nirdvandvika > > > > tvam kunkumarcabhir anandita > > tvam puspamalabhir abhito vrta > > sauvarna bhusabhir abhusita casi > > tvam ratna simhasa nadhisthita > > > > puspani patrani salilani te > > bhaktyarpitaniha modaya te > > tvam mohanodara ragapriya devi > > tvam saccidananda guru rupini > > > > Oh spouse of Lord Kamesvara, You reside in his left > > side. > > I pray to you to reside in my heart always. > > > > You reside in the Bindu and in the Cakra (in the > > innermost center of > > Sri Cakra and in the overall aspect of Sri Cakra) in > > the entire universe, > > in the mind of all creatures, in the words of all > > beings, in all the bodies, > > You are the form and the essence of the four vedas, > > in the form of > > Pranavaksara > > (seed letter of initiation) and in the form of Nada > > (primary sound). You are > > truth and ever existent. Duality never exists in > > You. There is nothing second > > to You. Therefore I bow down to You. > > > > You favor devotees when Kumkum Arcana is performed > > to You. You are best > > adorned with > > various flower garlands. You are adorned with gold > > ornaments. You are seated > > in the jewel bedecked throne. > > > > Beautiful flowers, sacred leaves and water are > > offered in oblation with > > utmost devotion > > to You during pujas. They are offered to keep You > > ever in joy. Your charm > > enhances when > > You listen to Mohana ragam ( a classical raga). You > > are in the form of > > Saccidananda and in the form of Sadguru." > > > > Who can tell me on which cd or tape this one can be > > found? > > > > Jai Guru Datta > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html > > Call INDIA at lower rates http://www.ethnicservices.com/ > > Post message: JAIGURUDATTA > > We apologize if you have received this mail in error. To from this list: send the line "" in the subject/body of a message to > JAIGURUDATTA-owner > > > > Links > > > JAIGURUDATTA/ > > > JAIGURUDATTA > > Your > > > Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html Call INDIA at lower rates http://www.ethnicservices.com/ Post message: JAIGURUDATTA We apologize if you have received this mail in error. To from this list: send the line "" in the subject/body of a message to JAIGURUDATTA-owner Links JAIGURUDATTA/ b.. JAIGURUDATTA c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 even while grammatically female is it not still poetic to have a female form for someone that is beyond duality. beyond duality, do genders exist? JGD JGDJAIGURUDATTA, MadeleineHeiss@a... wrote: > as per my dictionary of spiritual sanskrit words: nirdvandva: without pairs > of opposite like suka, duhkha (joy and sorrow) etc, i.e. advaita in a way: > "...duality never exists in you - there is no second to you..."JGD > > > > Thanks Madeleine for the superb song on MATA. > > > > Can some one elaborate more on the meaning of the word > > "nirdvandvika" ? > > > > I understand but elaboration will help more. > > > > Jai Guru Datta. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Thanks for comments of all. I guess .. Beyond duality although genders don't exist based on the context this word works as a adjective qualifier on one and one super FEMALE, as the all poowerful creative MOTHER the entirity. ( Some languages , I think change the gender of the qualifier too .. ) I was thinking and it seems to take us very close to Advaita. GODDESS also called as , "Dvandva kshyankari"I was curious if this word "Nirdvadvika" takes us very close to a mind , that has no second thought .. hence leads to Trikarana Suddhi ( Mano , Vak , Action integrity). All suggestions are welcome and will help. With Prayers to such SAKTI, Jai Guru Datta. --- advaitaananda <MadeleineHeiss wrote: > even while grammatically female is it not still > poetic to have a > female form for someone that is beyond duality. > beyond duality, do > genders exist? JGD > JGDJAIGURUDATTA, MadeleineHeiss@a... > wrote: > > as per my dictionary of spiritual sanskrit words: > nirdvandva: > without pairs > > of opposite like suka, duhkha (joy and sorrow) > etc, i.e. advaita in > a way: > > "...duality never exists in you - there is no > second to you..."JGD > > > > > > > Thanks Madeleine for the superb song on MATA. > > > > > > Can some one elaborate more on the meaning of > the word > > > "nirdvandvika" ? > > > > > > I understand but elaboration will help more. > > > > > > Jai Guru Datta. > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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