new member about Ganesha chathurthi...ALOBAR

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RESPECTED ALOBAR,

Well , i do agree GOD is infinite ,if any term be used for it.also ,i

agree that INFINITE ENCOMPASSES all views !!!! & freind ,am not

against POLYTHEISM but what actually cud hv been the reason of

polytheism ,? IMO , if one goes thru the aspects of different deities

,we tend to find each (mostly)represents a different quality!!! then

at same time each has many forms which though apprehending with the

main quality of the specific DEITY ,also encompass other qualities

!!!!! SO what i would term it as MONOTHEISM TO POLYTHEISM &

POLYTHEISM TO MONOTHEISM. or one can say FROM FINITE TO INFINITE &

INFINITE TO FINITE!!!!

also ,i wud like to recall here a story which have come thru in

different forms from ALL OF MY MENTORS .

once ,there were 4 people travelling in a boat each of so called

different religions

Obe was SIKH who was totally devoted to SREE GURU NANAK ,ANOTHER A

muslim TOTALY DEVOTED TO almighty ALLAH ,one a christian TOTYALLY

DEVOTED TO LORD JESUS & one a highly learned BRAHMIN who had all

his life just served GODS/GODDESS & nothing else.

now somehow the boat starts sinking & the life of all 4 is in danger

,so they call their RESPECTIVE GODS in which they have faith but all

3 except the BRAHMIN ARE SAVED & the brahmin dies!!!!!!

NOW ,once in the HEAVEN (!!!!!) the brahmin is not only surprised &

astonished but SHOCKED over only him dying & such requests to see

THE GOD & is allowed.

on meeting THE BRAHMN puts his question HEY THE ALMIGHTY what was

wrong with my devotion ,i passed each & every moment of my life

taking ur names & offering poojas & did not even look at any female

except that as a MOTHER while amongst other 3 were those who was

married 3 times. i never in my life even ate where NNON VEG was to be

seen while those three ate the flesh of ur creations ,a part of YOU

& so on!!!!!

On listening to the BRAHMIN THE GOD answers "hey BRAHMIN ,i agree

that you did nothing tof what other 3 did bbut still you find urself

here & soon to be put on trials & still snce u hv questioned me i'll

clear ur doubt. well when the boat was aout to sink I heard the sikh

sg ,WAHA GURU RAKSHA & since he all thru had unshakeable faith in me

in form of GURU NANAK ,I immediately took the form ,held him &

brought him to shore ,then i heard the CHRN REQUESTING being same

reason I immediately took my form of JESUS & Rescued him & THE SAME

WAS IN CASE OF OF muslim.I even wanted to help u & heard u calling me

in form of JAGADAMBA , so i took the form & reached to help u but to

my surprise on reaching there i found u did not hv faith in JAGDAMBA

so were calling KALI now ,thus i came back changed my form & returned

only to find u did not even have faith in KALI so were calling on me

in form of RAM thus still being very happy with ur prayers thruout i

took the form but again to my dismay now u were calling KRISHNA

,which again made me change my form ,to be again astonished on seeing

you calling BHAIRAVA & BY the time i cud change my form YOU WERE

DEAD!!!!!!!!

wELL ,STILL i would say that ultimately all great SCHOLARS &

SIDDHAS have come to conclusion of UNIVERSAL SOUL .

wELL YOU MAY BE RIGHT THAT monotheism AS BEEN USED TO SUPRESS OTHERS

BUT THE DEEDS OF SOME UNLEARNED SOULS SHOULD NOT BE THE BASIS OF MY

BELIEF AT LEAST !

and then again ,i dont say i donot beleive in POLYTHEISM or am

against MONOTHEISM but as earlier said "EK SE ANEK ,ANEK SE EK"

MEANING FROM "ONE TO MANY & many to one" is the path of ultimate

spirituality to me where all paradoxes end ,all differentiations end

& i say "AHAM BRAHMA ASMIAHAM VEDAH" AHAM RUDRAH!!!!!

tHEN AGAIN & FINALLY I WOULD SAY "TO EACH HIS OWN" & i definitely

accept & honour ur views too & hope to learn more from ur vviews &

thoughts. ,on second thoughts from this point of my view (accepting

ur view) can say more thing "duality to oneness"

 

regards

rajat

 

> I am afraid I must differ with you here, rajat. When

dealing with the infinite, one single finite view cannot aprehend the

infinite. Whether one says there i[s one God or several or many, or

nne -- all seem (IMO) to miss this point. The infinite encompasses

all views without contradiction or paradox. Difficult for us to

apprehend, I know. Personally, I prefer an infinite number of

distinct Gods & Godesses. For me, to say that all the Gods &

Godesses are but aspect of ONE GOD is far too monotheistic for my

taste. Not that it is wrong, per se, but that monotheism has been

used in many places & times to opress those who believe

differently. So it is just not my cup of tea.

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> From my perspective, I like having many different

independent Gods & Godesses. Not as aspects of a single deity, but

each being as infinite & eternal as the others. I guess one would

call me a pantheist.

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> Alobar