Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 Rick <rilogo (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote: Yeats, but he said, in effect:"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity..."Jai Sri Ganesha! (And all the infinite forms of the infinite...)<<<<<<<< Very well put! Om Shanti, Sy Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Namaste: I certainly did not take your posts as endorsements... in fact, I felt that they opened up a valuable and profitable line of discussion, which had been on my mind, at least... I always value your links... Just a question: Are you in some form of research? you seem to have a mind that would be very good at it... Thanks again for the post, and for giving us as an opportunity to clarify our thoughts... Jai Sri Ganesha! Rick SY Zenith <syzenith .au> Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:47:31 -0800 (PST) Don't Trust all you Read Namaste Denderah and all Friends, Those posts by your "gas-bag" (me) were generally intended as food for thought. They were not intended to promote an organization nor to convert anyone :-) "Thought-provoking food for thought" is more like it. Like yourselves, I've read "Loving Ganesha" and feel the same way about certain parts of the volume. "Thank you" to yourself Denderah and all others who've shared their thoughts and wisdoms of which most aspects I am in resonance with. Sanatana Dharma is not a "proselytizing religion" - it is a way of life. In my days living amongst Hindus in Asia, there is no such thing as "conversion". A person is either born into the Dharma (as Rajat put it) or simply adopts it and lives and breathes it. (At least that was my experience in a particular community.) There are some who go with their heart and make it official in that they approach temple priests and go to the extent of changing their names. Most simply adopt Hindu names but others retain the names they were given at birth. There are no strict rules about this. Going to a church does not make a Christian. Going to a temple does not make a Hindu or a Buddhist a devout devotee. God/dess is in the heart. For some of us, the "Temple is in the Heart" or "The Temple is in the Soul". Hope I make sense..... In this group, we are all Ganesha's children, all with different backgrounds, preferences and each is an individual in our own right. The Gracious Lord "discerns" but does not discrimminate amongst His children, and indeed the Universe which resides within His Auspicious Stomach. May we Be Guided by His Wisdom in the way He sees appropriate. Jai Ganesh! Sy Denderah Luxor <denderah_luxor > wrote: Dear Jennifer, Thank you for your words. I am a Christian, but with a very soft spot for Shri Ganesha. (I'm listening to a rendition of the Atharvashirsha right now.) In today's Hinduism, I have noticed that there are a number of factions. That this is so is no surprise because every religion has its factions, divisions, etc. In Hinduism, theology aside, we have conservative, moderate, and liberal Hindus. Most Hindus are of the last two categories. The Himalayan Acadamy, Vishwa Hindu Parishad, and other such organizations are conservative Hindus. In my opinion, conservative Hindus such as these deny some elements of Hinduism that make it the special religion that it is. Hinduism accepts all religion and seeks no converts. One may even say it is impossible to convert. Nothing in Hinduism says, "You must be Hindu to attain salvation." Nothing in Hinduism says, "We're superior." Yes, Hindus believe that Hinduism is the best system, etc., but that it cannot supplant any other religion. Mahatma Gandhi, as a matter of fact, was strictly against conversion out of or in to Hinduism. He believed strongly that belonging to the religion one was born into is one's dharma, and that there is no use whatsoever in conversion. This is an argument that go against Hindu, Muslim, and Christian convert-seekers. "Loving Ganesa" is a wonderful, fabulous book, except for its invectives against other religions. Even though it proclaims respect for all religions, it laughingly and proudly proclaim it's winning converts from Christianity. This is not good Hindu dharma. What matters in Hinduism is not one's jati, dharma, religion, name, associations, or whatnot. One can be a Brahmin, perform the necessary rituals every day, and yet not attain moksha. What matters is one's heart and behaviour. This is the major thrust of the Bhagavadgita: salvation is through God independent of other chains (name, family, religion, etc.). God loves us, and He doesn't care if we are going to the temple every week or performing our daily pujas. The beauty of Hinduism is how dynamic and personal it is. Unfortunately, the Himalayan Acadamy seems to want to impose an official/orthodox Hinduism on all of Hindutva and draw converts into this official Hinduism from all faiths. True Hinduism is this: love God, love all humanity, love all living things. Everything else are appendages to this. Just my thoughts. Auctions <http://rd./mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.> Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! <http://rd./mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.> Sponsor - http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 :)SY, "the "Temple is in the Heart"" ******** u beleive , what for last few days , i was thinking of writing same thing but have been busy , so cud'nt make out , & as such could'nt even respond to my personal mails , of some verrry good friends & respected one******** regards JAI AMBEY, rajatyyyyyyy-boy new owners! Bid now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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