Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Your English isn't too bad. Is French your first language -- or do you speak Breton? (My friend Alexei is a linguist with a specialty in Celtic languages.) I gather that tattoos of various Sanskrit mantras are very popular now. I sometimes teach at New Age festivals, and a couple of years ago I met a Tarot-reader whom I hadn't seen in quite a while. She shouted, "Oh, Len! I have something <wonderful> to show you!" And she began hiking up her sweater and unfastening her brassierre! Imagine my surprise when she turned around and exposed her naked <back>. Across her shoulders and upper back was a complex tattoo -- a Sufi winged heart, containing a Wiccan pentagram, wreaths of roses and lillies everywhere, and a ribbon with a Sanskrit mantra. As I tried to sound it out (I am far from fluent in reading Devanagari script), she said, "Oh, yes! I should've checked with you or Alexei to be sure the tattoo-artist spelled everything correctly." I doubt that anyone will find an "Om" on your arm offensive. What instrument do you play? -- Len/ Kalipadma On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:10:47 -0000 "seb_ehouarne" <seb_ehouarne writes: <snip> > My questions are: Is it a wrong thing to tatoo the Aum on my arm > just > to get a piece of this philosophy? Is that done in your country? I > had used "Ganesh" for a music band's name is that may be apreciate > or not? Thanks for your answer and sorry for my english. > > Ganesha bless > > Seb > ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 seb_ehouarne <seb_ehouarne (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Hello,I'm french, i come from Britanny and in fact the hinduism is not very current here but i try to interested by myself.I'm musician and i staied on Ganesha and with what i know, Ganesh is the only Lord who can be assimiled to Aum.I don't practice hinduism, and it's not so easy for me to understand the differents faces of the religion but i like all i had read.My questions are: Is it a wrong thing to tatoo the Aum on my arm just to get a piece of this philosophy? Is that done in your country? I had used "Ganesh" for a music band's name is that may be apreciate or not?Thanks for your answer and sorry for my english.Ganesha blessSebTo from this group, send an email to:-http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Your use of is subject to the Health - Feel better, live better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Is it a wrong thing to tatoo the Aum on my arm just to get a piece of this philosophy? Is that done in your country? I had used "Ganesh" for a music band's name is that may be apreciate or not? Thanks for your answer and sorry for my english. Ganesha bless Personally, I think tattooing is a very spiritual act as it had always been used for this purpose and only recently in a degraded form as fashion. If you tatto an animal, or symbol upon your person you permanently identify yourself with that form of energy. That said, it is wise to mull over what you are getting before you go and permanently mark yourself with anything. If you have thought about it and think it's right for you, sure go ahead and enjoy! Just remember it' going to last forever ;-) I chose to permanently link myself with the hindu current and got two chest tattoos as a way to offer myself to Ganesha. I feel by the symbols I am forever consecrated to him and also it is a permanent reminder for me to keep focused on my spiritual goals. The pain is a nice sacrifice too. This is a very primitive type of religious action and has been going on for thousands of years. A great artist named Manwoman loved my tattoos and put me on his website. you can see them here: http://www.manwoman.net/swastika/fots4.html there is also a tantric style painting I did for Kali Ma at the same site here: http://www.manwoman.net/swastika/Swastika4.html If you are interested, both are listed under my name William Clark. I recommend the website to all Swastika fans as well, since Manwoman has done much to redeem the symbol in the minds of western people. He even started an artists collective called "friends of the Swastika" which basically is a thing to show people how it is used traditionally as a spiritual symbol and has been forever! It still is a potent spiritual icon and one that I am sure all lovers of Ganapati revere highly........ As for your band, think about that too. Will all your music relate to Ganesha, or will some of it run against what he is about? Do you feel you can represent the God through music? By calling yourself something so great as a God you really would have a lot to live up to! There is a whole lot to consider in such a thing and I would really think it over first. Good luck with you research Jai Ganesha Deva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:00:28 EDT lionserpent358 writes: > > Personally, I think tattooing is a very spiritual act as it had > always been > used for this purpose and only recently in a degraded form as > fashion. If you > tatto an animal, or symbol upon your person you permanently identify > yourself with that form of energy. I seem to recall that in India, a tattoo of a Sanskrit phrase or an image of a Deva is supposed to continue to appear on your astral self after death. It will scare away the Yama-dhoots (messengers of the Death-God who come to take your soul for punishment), and draw the attention of the Deity shown in the tattoo. > That said, it is wise to mull over what you are > getting before you go and permanently mark yourself with anything. Think of Hollywood actor-couple Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton, who had each other's names tattooed on the other, only to have their marriage self-destruct messily. > > If you have thought about it and think it's right for you, sure go > ahead and enjoy! Just remember it' going to last forever ;-) > > I chose to permanently link myself with the hindu current and got > two chest > tattoos as a way to offer myself to Ganesha. I feel by the symbols I > am > forever consecrated to him and also it is a permanent reminder for > me to keep > focused on my spiritual goals. The pain is a nice sacrifice too. > This is a > very primitive type of religious action and has been going on for > thousands of years. The Ganapatyas (a cult of Ganesha devotees) often tattoo or brand the image of a crowned elephant's head on their arms. <snip> > I > recommend the website to all Swastika fans as well, since Manwoman > has done > much to redeem the symbol in the minds of western people. He even > started an > artists collective called "friends of the Swastika" which basically > is a > thing to show people how it is used traditionally as a spiritual > symbol and > has been forever! It still is a potent spiritual icon and one that I > am sure all lovers of Ganapati revere highly........ The Nazi swastika is rotated 45 degrees, so a point is at the bottom. The Hindu swastika is flat at the base -- much more balanced! I do get lots of Jewish customers who are attracted to Ganesha, but may see a swastika painted on his palm or portrayed on one of his ornaments, and freak out. But another symbol for Ganesha is a six-pointed ("Jewish") star with an Om in the center. -- Len/ Kalipadma <Ganesha sharanam> (Ganesha be my refuge) ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 , "seb_ehouarne" <seb_ehouarne> wrote: > Hello, ........ > My questions are: Is it a wrong thing to tatoo the Aum on my arm just > to get a piece of this philosophy? Is that done in your country? I > had used "Ganesh" for a music band's name is that may be apreciate or > not? > Seb *************** Good questions Seb. After I read them I remembered that I had included an image of Ganesh in one of my drawings for the art show. When I get the images scanned I'll send one. God bless, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 You Wrote: """"I seem to recall that in India, a tattoo of a Sanskrit phrase or an image of a Deva is supposed to continue to appear on your astral self after death. It will scare away the Yama-dhoots (messengers of the Death-God who come to take your soul for punishment), and draw the attention of the Deity shown in the tattoo.""""" I think I may have seen scorpions tattoed on a few devotees of Shiva in pictures I have seen from S. India. I wonder if thats correct, I believe scorpions are associated with him.... """Think of Hollywood actor-couple Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton, who had each other's names tattooed on the other, only to have their marriage self-destruct messily.""" That's the worst! Names aren't even pretty to look at graphically either! I have seen a ton of people with other peoples names on them who they no longer are seeing. They show up at my friends tattoo shop all the time begging and asking for some creative way to cover it up! The flip-side of this is people getting their OWN names on them Hmmm I always wonder if they are afraid that they will forget it! """The Ganapatyas (a cult of Ganesha devotees) often tattoo or brand the image of a crowned elephant's head on their arms.""" Now that is an image I would like to see! Know where any pictures are of that? """The Nazi swastika is rotated 45 degrees, so a point is at the bottom. The Hindu swastika is flat at the base -- much more balanced! I do get lots of Jewish customers who are attracted to Ganesha, but may see a swastika painted on his palm or portrayed on one of his ornaments, and freak out.""" Well this is something of an issue in my life,..........as you probably can tell! I struggled with the Swastika a bit early on as I always had an attraction to this symbol and an aversion to any form of racial predjudices. When I was very young I clearly remember discovering the symbol and drawing it on everything, including all over my desk and schoolbooks. Imagine my suprise when a teacher started reprimanding me and telling me it was a symbol of evil-when I never even heard of the Nazi's or world war II yet! It took me many years to rediscover it and find out that it had a spiritual source which I always just kind of intuited. I choose to use it in my artwork for the deep spiritual signifigance it has always had for me. With enough activity in this direction I believe things can change. 10 years of a horrible war should not replace 10,000 years of human history and it is still sacred throughout Asia and amongst what remains of the Native Americans. With the growth of knowledge amongst people the symbol will be liberated from it's negative stigma and once again be seen as a Human symbol-for everyone as it always was. It was used by Native Americans, Primitive Europeans, teh Afrucan Ashanti tribe, The Hindus, Moslems, Christians and even old Jewish synagogues in Europe have Swastikas in them! The Buddhists use it, It is the Chinese symbol of Good fortune, Really it is everywhere! I have come to believe it represents the spiritual source that connects all things and is a perfect substitute for AUM and I have seen it used this way. I think of it like thus: The whirling forces of nature- The protons and electrons spinning about the center of an Atom; The cells of your body centered around the nucleus The systems of your body which are organized around your Heart Center Of Course, The planets of our Solar system revolving around the Sun and it is often refered to as a Solar Symbol The Millions of SUNS in our spiral galaxy spinning around the the black whole at the center Everything in between and through infinity! It really does connect all things;-) A perfect symbol for Ganapati as well! Jai Ganesha Deva! William But another symbol for Ganesha is a six-pointed ("Jewish") star with an Om in the center. -- Len/ Kalipadma <Ganesha sharanam> (Ganesha be my refuge) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 I would like to thanks everybody for your answers about tatooing,i have been really interest by all. In fact, i didn't think those questions may receive all those interests explications. Thanks a lot. For the person who ask me if i speak Breton: no i don't but my father do as well, he had never teach me but i would like to learn it it's a beautiful language. For my instruments, i play piano, accordion and percussions. Well, if i make that tatoo, i'll send you and maybe appear on Manwoman's site. Thanks again and Ganesha bless you all. Seb _________ -- Une adresse @.fr gratuite et en français ! Mail : http://fr.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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