Guest guest Posted November 28, 2002 Report Share Posted November 28, 2002 , "Scott Hutton" <hmshutton> wrote:> > > Have you read that wonderful book LOVING GANESH by Swami - Icouldneverspellhisname? Do you ? Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2002 Report Share Posted November 28, 2002 I think "Snafu" has a nicer ring.... , SY Zenith <syzenith> wrote: > > It's "Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami" :-) > > > , "Scott Hutton" <hmshutton> wrote: > > > > > > Have you read that wonderful book LOVING GANESH by Swami - Icouldneverspellhisname? > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 > > , Wikram Srinivas wrote: > > > //Hail to the Lord of the Categories// > > > > > > Hello friends, > > > I read an old book on Indian mythology by a > > British > > > author, who claimed that Lord Ganesha had the qualities of the > > Greek > > > God Janus and the Goddess Hera. I couldn't get that thing. Janus was not a Greek God, he was a Roman God. There are (rare) two-headed forms of Ganapati, but I don't think this is relevant. Alice Getty in her monograph "Ganesha" likens him to Roman Janus, and even prints an old sketch which she purports is Ganesha with two heads, one elephantine and one human. (The "human" head is very misshapen and stylized.) The point is, Ganesha is like Janus in that he is a God of New Beginnings. His shrines are often placed beside the front door of one's home. (Janus was a deity of doorways.) The Greek deity Hermes was also often portrayed near the doorway, and householders would reach up to caress the statue's erect phallus before leaving. My Jewish ancestors put a <mezuzzah> on the lintel of the doorpost, and would touch it or kiss it before entering or leaving. (Is a Hebrew prayer in a metal container an acceptable alternative for the God's willy? I don't think so!) I really don't see how Ganesha is similar to Greek goddess Hera. But (as Scott pointed out) Ganesha <is> often deputized for the Goddess, his Mother. -- Len/ Kalipadma ______________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 , Black Lotus L Rosenberg <kalipadma@j...> wrote: > > > > > Janus was not a Greek God, he was a Roman God. There are (rare) > two-headed forms of Ganapati, but I don't think this is relevant. I don't think so either. Perhaps we're dealing with a hitherto unknown archetype - The Divine Doorman - who may take many forms...such as the Dweller on the Threshold...but distant resemblances, as you aver, do not an identity make. Alice > Getty in her monograph "Ganesha" likens him to Roman Janus, and even > prints an old sketch which she purports is Ganesha with two heads, one > elephantine and one human. (The "human" head is very misshapen and > stylized.) Was she an academic? Looking for tenure? They'll publish anything for tenure...I dimly recognize the name...but only dimly... > > The point is, Ganesha is like Janus in that he is a God of New > Beginnings. His shrines are often placed beside the front door of one's > home. (Janus was a deity of doorways.) The Greek deity Hermes was also > often portrayed near the doorway, and householders would reach up to > caress the statue's erect phallus before leaving. Ol' Hermes has a lot goin' for 'em...I'd rub his weenie too if anyone I knew had enough sense to put one by their door... My Jewish ancestors > put a <mezuzzah> on the lintel of the doorpost, and would touch it or > kiss it before entering or leaving. (Is a Hebrew prayer in a metal > container an acceptable alternative for the God's willy? I don't think > so!) Now here I must disagree. Them scroll holders have always reminded me of woodies...er...willies...if one isn't hung up on anatomical correctness, they're rubbin material...though I'm damned if I ever saw one of my Jewish neighbors put a hand on one...are the Orthodox still into it? > > I really don't see how Ganesha is similar to Greek goddess Hera. But (as > Scott pointed out) Ganesha <is> often deputized for the Goddess, his > Mother. Actually, I think, until we really re-raise our consciousness regarding our old Western divinities, such comparisons tend to short change both Ganesh and our own evolving. Ganesh embodies AUM. Which of those old divinities got that far? And who among us has grokked what the hell that AUM-embodying is? The old gods may have AUM'd. I don't say they didn't. But we sure, with the help of saboteurs such as Augustine of Hippo and Paul of Tarsus, went deaf on 'em. > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > ______________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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