Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Ive heard of the Soma as being the fly agaric. Ive read stories of how sages would drink the urine of others who injested the soma because the urine was still hallucinogenic but less toxic than the origanal fly agaric because of being filtered through the ingesters liver and kidneys. You cant always believe everything you read ,but it sounded to strange to be fiction. I wish I could give you a reference source but it was just something on the web i read years ago. Im sure if you researched soma enough you would find something like that. I wouldnt be suprised if thats where OM came from. Because Soma or Peoti or Teonanactyl (Toltec for "Gods flesh" also known as psilocyb mexicana) will send you to another demension beyond description. I just think Its more about the sound vibration than the letters. Theres just a vibe about the sound that just screams sacred. I dont know what it is. It just touches your core. Thanks for the info, JamesSimone <syzenith .au> wrote: The Meaning of OmThere is no question that om is the oldest mantra, or sound of numinous power, known to the sages of India. Its origin, however, is somewhat obscure. A century ago, the German scholar Max Müller, editor and translator of the Rig-Veda, had the idea that om might be a contraction of the word avam, "a prehistoric pronominal stem, pointing to distant objects, while ayam pointed to nearer objects." He continued, "Avam may have become the affirmative particle om, just as the French oui arose from hoc illud." This obscure comment refers to the fact that om, in addition to its sacred significance, came to be used in the prosaic sense of "Yes, I agree." Müller's interesting philological speculation remains unsubstantiated, however.More recently, a different approach was taken by Swami Sankarananda, who proposed that om derives from the Vedic word soma. Through the influence of the Persians, who did not pronounce the letter s, the word soma was changed to homa and subsequently was shortened to om. Like Müller's derivation, this is pure conjecture, but is nonetheless intriguing, as it brings out the traditionally accepted relationship between soma and om.Soma is the sacred substance used in the principal Vedic sacrifice. It has been characterized as an intoxicant, and various scholars have, in my opinion, wrongly identified it as a concoction prepared from the fly agaric mushroom. In the Vedic literature, soma is always described as a creeper, which cannot be said to apply to a mushroom. Be that as it may, the real soma was not a plant or plant extract but a spiritual "elixir," or illuminating experience, as is evident from certain hymns of the Rig-Veda (e.g. 10.85.3). In this sense, we also encounter it in later Tantra, where soma stands for an inner process or esoteric phenomenon: the nectar of immortality said to ooze from the "Moon" at the tâlu-cakra ("palate wheel") in the head, dripping into the "Sun" stationed at the nâbhi-cakra ("navel wheel"). On the physical level, it corresponds to the saliva, which is known to have antiseptic, healing properties.Swami Sankarananda believed that, like soma, the sacred syllable om represents the Sun. This seems to be confirmed by the Aitareya-Brâhmana (5.32): om ity asau yo'sau [sûryah] tapati, "That which glows [i.e., the Sun] is om." The Sun was indeed central to the Vedic spirituality, and the Vedic sages looked upon the Sun not merely as a star that supplies our planet with the necessary light and warmth but as a multidimensional entity of which the visible stellar body is merely its outermost material shell.The esteemed Swami's conjecture is worthy of deeper consideration. However, most spiritual authorities regard om as the vocalization of an actual "sound," or vibration, which pervades the entire universe and is audible to yogins in higher states of consciousness. In the Western hermetic tradition, this is known as "the music of the spheres." The Indian sages also speak of it as the shabda-brahman or "sonic Absolute," which, in the words of the Chândogya-Upanishad (2.23.3), is "all this (idam sarvam)." What this means is that om is the universe as a totality, not a conglomerate of individual parts, as we experience it in our ordinary state of consciousness. Thus om is the primordial sound that reveals itself to the inner ear of that the adept who has controlled the mind and the senses. Vihari-Lala Mitra, in the introduction to his translation of the Yoga-Vâsishtha, equated the Greek word on ("being") with om. While this is linguistically unsustainable, philosophically the connection is valid, as om is the symbol of That Which Is, or brahman. He also made the link between om and Amen to which the same strictures apply. The Early History of the Sacred Syllable -------Significantly, the syllable om is not mentioned in the ancient Rig-Veda, which has recently been dated back to the third millennium B.C.E. and earlier still. However, a veiled reference to it may be present in one of the hymns (1.164.39), which speaks of the syllable (akshara) that exists in the supreme space in which all the deities reside. "What," asks the composer of this hymn, "can one who does not know this do with the chant?" He adds, "Only those who know it sit together here." That is, only initiates gather to delight in the mystery of the sacred syllable and the company of the deities. The word akshara means literally "immutable" or "imperishable." This designation is most appropriate, since grammatically syllables are stable parts that make up words. In the case of the mantric om, this monosyllable came to represent the ultimate One, which is eternally unchanging (akshara, acala). The term akshara is used as a synonym for om in many scriptures, including the Bhagavad-Gîtâ (10.25), which has Krishna say, "Of utterances I am the single syllable." In light of the early prominence given to om as the primordial seed sound, there is no good reason for assuming that the sagely composers of the Vedic hymns were ignorant of the sacred syllable om. Indeed, they were great masters of mantra-yoga, and the Vedic hymnodies are the astounding creation of their mantric competence. Possibly om was considered so sacred that it could not be mentioned outside the actual context of the Vedic sacrifices. In that case, it would have been passed on from teacher to student by word of mouth in strictest confidence. There would therefore have been no need to mention om in the sacred hymns. All initiates would have known it and also understood its sublime meaning. In any case, for countless generations, any recitation of the Vedic hymns has begun with the syllable om. The Atharva-Veda (10.8.10) seems to hint at this with the following riddle: What is joined to the front and to the back and is joined all around and everywhere, and by which the sacrifice proceeds? That praise (ric) I ask of you. The syllable om is often appended to longer mantric utterances, both introducing and concluding them, and this practice is very old indeed. As time went by, the ban on uttering the sacred syllable or even writing it down outside the sacrificial rituals was relaxed. Thus the sacred syllable is first mentioned by name in the opening hymn of the Shukla-Yajur-Veda (1.1), the "white" recension of the Vedic hymnody dealing strictly with the performance of the sacrifices (yajus). This could be a later addition, however. For the Taittirîya-Samhitâ (5.2.8), which is appended to the Yajur-Veda, still cryptically speaks of the "divine sign" (deva-lakshana) that is written threefold (try-alikhita). Some scholars have seen this as a reference to the three constituent parts of the syllable om, as written in Sanskrit: a + u + m. The three constituents of om are referred to, for instance, in the Prashna-Upanishad (V.5). The symbolic elaboration of this is found in the Mândûkya-Upanishad, as we will see later. That the sacred syllable was written down early on is clear from the fact that it had to be traced in sand or water during certain of the ancient rituals. This is also a significant piece of evidence in favor of writing at least in the late Vedic era, which is generally denied by historians. However, today we appreciate that ancient Indian history needs to be completely rewritten. The long-held belief that the Vedic people invaded India between 1200 and 1500 B.C.E. has been shown to be unfounded. In fact, all the evidence points to the identity between the Vedic people and the builders of the great cities along the banks of the Indus river. Since inscribed artifacts have been found in the Indus cities, the question of whether or not the Vedic people knew writing can be conclusively answered in the affirmative. It is true, though, that the Vedic hymnodies were in all probability never written down until comparatively recently. Yet, the brahmins had devised an ingenious system of memorization to guarantee that the Vedas were preserved with utmost fidelity. It appears that they have been successful in this, thanks to the prodigious memories of the Vedic specialists. Other cultures, which held their sacred tradition in a similar high regard, sought to preserve it by memorization rather than writing it down on impermanent materials that, moreover, might fall into the wrong hands. However, nowhere has the art of memorization reached the sophistication that it did in India. Over many generations, om was not uttered outside the sacred context of ritual worship. It was a secret sound communicated by word of mouth from teacher to disciple, that is, originally from father to son. Even the early Upanishads (which have recently been dated back to the second millennium B.C.E.) often still refer to it only indirectly as the udgîtha ("up sound") and the pranava ("pronouncing"). The former word hints at the nasalized way in which om is sounded out, with the sound vibrating at the psychoenergetic center located between and behind the eyebrows (i.e., the âjnâ-cakra). The term pranava is derived from the prefix pra (etymologically related to the Latin "pro") and the stem nava (derived from the verbal root nu meaning "to call out" and "to exult"). It is used, for instance, in the Yoga-Sûtra (1.27), where it is called the symbol (vâcaka) of the Lord (îshvara). Patanjali further states (in 1.28) that in order to realize the mystery of the Lord, the om sound should be recited and contemplated. Another, later term for om is târa, which is derived from the verbal root trî, meaning "to cross, traverse." This is a reference to the liberating function of the om sound, which safely transports the yogin across the ocean of existence (bhava-sâra) to the "other shore." Through recitation, which is mindful repetition of the om sound, the yogin can transcend the mind itself and thus is freed from the illusion of being an insular being separate from everything else. The om sound is truly liberating because it expands the reciter beyond the physical boundary of the skin and beyond the metaphorical boundary of preconceptions, thus restoring the recognition of the universal Self as his or her true identity.In the earliest Upanishads, such as the Brihad-Âranyaka, Chândogya, and Taittirîya, the sacred syllable om is mentioned many times by name, both as om (or aum) and om-kâra ("om making," meaning the "letter om"). However, udgîtha is more common. It is the Chândogya that first clearly spells out the equation between the words udgîtha and pranava (a term not found in the Brihad-Âranyaka). Perhaps these two terms came in vogue because for unknown reasons om had, by that time, spread beyond the sacred domain and begun to be used in the sense of "Yes, I agree." The first record of this usage is in the Brihad-Âranyaka-Upanishad (3.9.1) itself, where om is employed seven times in this manner. Indeed, the Chândogya-Upanishad (1.1.8) clearly states: "That syllable is a syllable of assent, for whenever we assent to anything we say aum [= om]." Max Müller commented on this as follows: If, then, om meant originally that and yes, we can understand that, like Amen, it may have assumed a more general meaning, something like tat sat, and that it may have been used as representing all that human language can express. The Chândogya-Upanishad (1.1.9) also has this relevant passage: By this the threefold knowledge proceeds. To honor this syllable, aum is recited, aum is exclaimed, aum is chanted, with its greatness and essence. Interestingly, in his commentary on this Upanishad, Shankara takes this passage to refer to the soma sacrifice, which again affirms the connection between om and soma mentioned above. He states that the soma ritual is performed to celebrate, or honor, the sacred syllable, which is the symbol of the Divine. This sacrifice, he further explains, maintains the Sun from which proceeds all life and nourishment by means of warmth and rain. The Chândogya-Upanishad (1.9.4) also quotes Atidhanvan Shaunaka, the teacher of Udara Shândilya, as saying, "So long as your descendants will know this udgîtha, their life in this world will be the highest and best." This expresses the idea that the sacred syllable is a blessing for those who utter it. For this reason it is worthy of being held in the highest esteem, as this and other scriptures emphasize. According to the concluding verses of the Brihat-Samnyâsa-Upanishad—a text of the medieval period—12,000 recitations of om remove all sins, while 12,000 recitations daily for a period of one year bring realization of the Absolute (brahman). What greater blessing can there be than this? From Om to Aum --------------At least two millennia after the sacred syllable om was discovered by the Vedic seers (rishis), the anonymous sage who composed the brief Mândûkya-Upanishad utilized this age-old mantra to expound the metaphysics of Advaita Vedânta. Thus he explained the three constituent parts (mâtrâ) of the syllable—namely a + u + m—as symbolizing past, present, and future, as well as waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. He also spoke of a fourth part that transcends the other three and concluded his esoteric observations with the statement that om is the Self (âtman), saying, "He who knows this enters the Self with the self—indeed, he who knows this!" The importance of the Mândûkya-Upanishad can be gauged from the fact that the venerable sage Gaudapâda wrote his celebrated commentary entitled Mândûkya-Kârikâ on it, which was subsequently commented on at length by Shankara, the great preceptor of the school of nondualism (advaita). Gaudapâda was the teacher of Govindapâda, Shankara's guru. Another scripture, given exclusively to explaining the sacred syllable om is the Atharva-Shikhâ-Upanishad. This scripture begins with the question: What should one meditate on? The answer is: the syllable om, which symbolizes the supreme Absolute (brahman). The text speaks of four constituent parts of this mantra, each having its own symbolic correlations as follows: 1. the sound a — earth - ric (hymn of praise) — Rig-Veda — Brahman — Vasus (a class of eight deities) — gâyatrî meter — gârhapatya fire — red — dedicated to Brahman; 2. the sound u — atmosphere — yajus (sacrificial formula) — Yajur-Veda — Vishnu — Rudras (deities governing the region between earth and heaven) — trishtubh meter — dakshina fire — bright — dedicated to Rudra; 3. the sound m — heaven — sâman (sacred chants) — Sâma-Veda — Vishnu — Âdityas (deities connected with the Goddess Aditi, symbolizing primordial infinity) — jagatî meter — âhavanîya fire — black — dedicated to Vishnu; 4. "half-part" (ardha-mâtra) — Atharvan songs — Atharva-Veda — fire of universal destruction — Maruts (deities of the mid-region who are especially associated with the wind) — Virât — lightning-like and multicolored — dedicated to Purusha. The most important part is the nasalized "half-part" sound m, which brings its own illumination and causes the life force (prâna) in the body to rush upward into the head. This Upanishad further states that the om sound is called om-kâra because it sends the currents of the life force upward (ûrdhvam utkrâmayati) and that it is called pranava because it makes all the life currents bow down (pranâmayati) before it. The text concludes by stating that the om sound is Shiva. Interestingly, in Tantra-Yoga, the serpent power (kundalinî-shakti) resting in the psychoenergetic center at the base of the spine, is said to be coiled up three and a half times. Very likely, this captures the same idea as in the notion of the three and a half units of the om sound. The Tantras would presumably modify the Upanishad's final claim to replace Shiva with Shakti, which in the form of the kundalinî rises upward and while doing so assimilates the life currents. In fact, the ascent of the serpent power is accompanied by manifestations of ever more subtle sound. According to the Amrita-Bindu-Upanishad (4), only the silent part of the sound m leads to the soundless, invisible Abode, the ultimate Reality. This scripture explains breath control (prânâyâma), a very important aspect of yogic discipline, as the recitation of the gâyatrî-mantra: tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhîmahi dhiyo yo nah pracodayât). This mantra is to be recited together with the pranava and the vyâhritis ("formulaic utterances," notably the words bhûh bhuvah svah, standing for "earth,mid-region," and "heaven" respectively). This sacred mantra should be recited three times in a single breath. The Amrita-Nâda-Upanishad (2ff.) recommends that one should mount the "chariot of the om sound," make Vishnu one's charioteer, and steer steadily toward the ultimate Reality. As one approaches the supreme Self, one should abandon the chariot and enter the splendor of the Self by means of the unsounded letter m. This is the silent, subtle part of om. This Upanishad prescribes breath control, especially retention of the breath, as a means of controlling the senses and focusing the mind upon the inner world. It defines Yoga as the state of restraint over a period of twelve units or measures (mâtrâ), that is, twelve recitations of om. It promises the dawning of wisdom within three months of diligent and continuous practice, an inner vision of the deities within four months, and final liberation within a mere six months. Of course, one must be able to sustain unwavering concentration for that span of time in order to succeed. For most people, this is an impossibility. For, as one Vedic seer-bard (rishi) complained in the Rig-Veda (10.33.2), "My mind flutters here and there like a bird." According to the Dhyâna-Bindu-Upanishad (15), the pranava is the bow, oneself is the arrow, and the Absolute is the target. This metaphor is first found in the Mundaka-Upanishad (2.2.3-4). It also calls the pranava imperishable and states that its "fine end" cannot be expressed. Another favorite metaphor, also recapitulated in the Dhyâna-Bindu-Upanishad (22), is that of oneself as the lower churning stick (arani) and the om sound as the upper churning stick. By practicing it, one can restrain one's breath and dissolve the subtle sound (nâda). Through constant cultivation of the subtle inner sound, declares the Nâda-Bindu-Upanishad (49), the karmic imprints (vâsanâ) left by our past volitional activity are eradicated. This leads to the merging of mind and life force. When the mind and the life force are motionless, the person abides as the subtle sound known as brahma-târa-antara-nâda, which can be translated as the "innermost sound that is the brahmic liberator (târa)." A fascinating account of the sacred syllable is given in the Nârada-Parivrâjaka-Upanishad (8.1ff.), a medieval scripture. Here om is said to be threefold: the destructive om, the creative om, and the internal-and-external om (comprising the two former types). Another threefold division is: the brahmic om, the internal om, and the practical om. Then the text mentions two more sets: the external om, the om of the seers (rishi), and the virât om (consisting of the former two), as well as the destructive om, the Brahma om, and the om of the half-measure (ardha-mâtrâ). This Upanishad goes on to explain these various forms of om as follows: The internal om is the single syllable om, which has eight parts—a, u, m, ardha-mâtrâ, nâda, bindu, kalâ, and shakti. The phoneme a is said to consist of 10,000 parts, the phoneme u of 1,000 parts, the phoneme m of 100 parts, and the ardha-mâtrâ of an infinite number of parts. The creative om is described as having qualities and the destructive om as having none. The virât om is said to consist of sixteen units (morae). In addition to the above-mentioned eight parts (which are explained below), the sacred syllable also has kalâ-atîta, shânti, shânti-atita (written shântyatîta), unmanî, mana-unmanî (written manomanî), purî, madhyamâ, pashyantî, and parâ. This text also refers to 64 and 128 parts of the sacred syllable, but it makes the point that ultimately its designated object—the Absolute—is singular. The Sacred Syllable Om in the Tantras ----The above Upanishadic ideas lead to the speculations about om in the Tantric literature where concepts like nâda, bindu, kalâ, shakti, etc. abound. The Shâradâ-Tilaka-Tantra (1.108) describes the cosmogonic process in terms of the production of sound as follows: From the supreme Shakti—pure Consciousness combined with the factor of lucidity (sattva)—comes the most subtle sound (dhvani), which is marked by a preeminence of the factors of lucidity and dynamism (rajas). Out of the dhvani develops the subtle sound (nâda), characterized by a mixture of the factors of lucidity, dynamism, and inertia (tamas). This subtle sound, in turn, gives rise to the energy of restriction (nirodhikâ), which has an excess of the factor of inertia. This ontic principle emanates the "half-moon" (ardha-indu, written ardhendu), which at this lower level again shows a predominance of the factor of lucidity. Out of it comes the vibratory source point (bindu), the immediate source of all letters and words. These form mantras, which are thus manifestations or vehicles of Shakti. This scripture (1.8) further explains that the bindu is itself composed of three parts, viz. nâda, bindu, and bîja ("seed"). The first part has a predominance of Consciousness (i.e., Shiva), the second a preponderance of Energy (i.e., Shakti), and the third an equal presence of Consciousness and Energy. Such esoteric accounts of the evolution of sound remain relatively unintelligible outside of Tantric practice; however, they become increasingly meaningful as the practitioner makes progress on the path of mantra-vidyâ or "mantric science." The primordial sound is uncaused. In the language of Kashmiri Tantrism, it is pure vibration (spanda). According to the Kirana-Tantra (copied in 924 C.E.), om resides in the throat of Shiva and is the Divine itself. This scripture also describes it as the root of all mantras, stating that upon articulation it becomes vâc ("speech"), corresponding to the Greek concept of logos. As we get higher up the ladder of ontic unfoldment, we encounter ever more subtle energies. Thus the mâtrikâs are the subtle alphabetic counterpart to their corresponding audible sounds; the bindu is subtler than the mâtrikâs, and the nâda is still more subtle. As the Yoga-Shikhâ-Upanishad (2.21) states, "There is no mantra higher than the nâda." In old graphic representations of the om-kâra, the nâda symbol is drawn or painted as an inverted crescent above the bindu, which suggests that the nâda is prior to the bindu. Later the crescent placed below the bindu emphasized that the nâda contains the bindu. Both graphic representations make the same point, however. The nâda itself has various levels of subtle manifestation. According to the Hamsa-Upanishad (16) it manifests in ten different ways. First there is the sound cini, then cini-cini. The third sounds like a bell, the fourth like the blast of a conch, whereas the fifth has the quality of a harp sound. The sixth through the ninth respectively resemble the sounds of cymbals, flute, kettle drum, and tabor. Only the tenth type, which is like a thunder clap, should be cultivated. Various physiological symptoms are said to accompany these sounds. Thus when the fourth sound is heard (in the right ear), one's head begins to shake, while the fifth sound causes the subtle center at the root of the palate to stream with the lunar ambrosia, and so on. The final sound alone is accompanied by identification with the supreme Absolute (para-brahman). Some Tantras differentiate between mahâ-nâda (also called nâda-anta) and nirodhinî, which is transmuted into bindu. This is also called tri-bindu because it is subdivided into nâda, bindu, and bîja. In this case, the nâda is correlated with shiva, the bindu with shakti, and the bîja with both Shiva and Shakti. The ultimate Reality itself can be viewed as a point origin, and as such is sometimes referred to as para-bindu or transcendental germinal point. Om is the ultimate bîja-mantra. The idea of om being the root of other mantras may actually have given rise to whole idea of bîja-mantras, which are root sounds associated with particular deities. They are special high-potency sounds or vibrations giving direct access to the spiritual realities for which they stand. The Mantra-Yoga-Samhitâ (71) calls om the "best of all mantras," adding that all other mantras receive their power from it. Thus om is prefixed or suffixed to numerous mantras: Om namah shivâya. "Om. Obeisance to Shiva."Om namo bhagavate. "Om. Obeisance to the Lord [Krishna or Vishnu]." Om namo ganeshâya. "Om. Obeisance to [the elephant-headed] Ganesha." Om namo nârâyanâya. "Om. Obeisance to Nârâyana [Vishnu]." Om shânte prashânte sarva-krodha-upashamani svâhâ. "Om. At peace! Pacifying! All anger be subdued! Hail!" (Note pronunciation: sarva-krodhopashamani) Om sac-cid-ekam brahma. "Om. The singular Being-Consciousness, the Absolute." The Mahânirvâna-Tantra (3.13) calls the last-mentioned brahma-mantra the most excellent of all mantras, which promptly bestows not only liberation but also virtue, wealth, and pleasure. The para-bindu mentioned above is said to have a masculine and a feminine side, which are respectively called ham and sa, thus yielding the sound or word hamsa, meaning "swan," but signifying the sound of the breath and indeed the breath itself as it enters and leaves the body. This natural motion of breathing, which is calculated to occur 21,600 times every day, is called spontaneous recitation (sahaja-japa) or unrecited recitation (ajapa-japa). The hamsa also stands for the psyche (jîva), which lives through the breath. This spontaneous mantra is understood as so'ham or "I am he," that is, "I am Shiva, the ultimate Reality." But ignorance prevents us from realizing this; hence the need for spiritual practice. The Yoga-Bîja (156), a comparatively late Hatha-Yoga text, states that when the prâna enters the central channel, the natural mantra reverses itself from hamsa to so'ham. Experientially, however, this is not different from the primordial om, the root mantra that reverberates through the entire cosmos.The Mantra-Yoga-Samhitâ (73) has this stanza: When people hear the pranava they hear the Absolute itself. When they utter the pranava they go to the abode of the Absolute. He who perceives the pranava sees the state of the Absolute. He who always has the pranava in his mind has the form of the Absolute. Conclusion ----------This brief discourse on the history and nature of the sacred syllable om is meant to give the reader a better appreciation of the metaphysical complexities surrounding this age-old mantra and of some of the profound spiritual practices associated with it. It would be possible to write several volumes on this subject, just as it would be possible to provide an overview of India's spiritual traditions based solely on the theory and practice of the om sound. What has been presented here is but a minute fraction of the teachings about om developed over a span of five millennia. The Yoga tradition is very rich and immensely sophisticated; yet its various schools and their respective paths are at core very simple, and in their simplicity they have many features in common. Above all, they lead to the same goal, which is the transcendence of the ego-personality, however this may be conceived and expressed in words. As the Rig-Veda (1.164.46) declared five millennia or more ago, "There is a single Truth but the wise call it by different names." AUM TAT SATNotes (1) M. Müller, Three Lectures on the Vedânta Philosophy (London: Longmans, Green, and Co., 1894), p. 116. (2) Ibid. (3) See Swami Sankarananda, The Rigvedic Culture of the Pre-Historic Indus, (Calcutta: Ramakrishna Vedanta Math, 1942), p. 75. (4) See V.-L. Mitra, The Yoga-Vasishtha-Maharamayana (Calcutta: Bonnerjee and Co., 1891), vol. 1., p. 39. Apparently, Mitra got this idea from Ram Mohan Roy, the founder of Brahma Samaj. (5) Ibid., p. 46. In linking om with Amen, Mitra took his cue from the great Sanskrit scholar Rajendra Lala Mitra. (6) See, e.g., G. Feuerstein, S. Kak, and D. Frawley, In Search of the Cradle of Civilization: New Light on Ancient India (Wheaton, IL: Quest Books, 1996). (7) M. Müller, op. cit., p. 116. © Copyright 1999 by Georg Feuerstein. All rights reserved.---------http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Namaste James, It was written by the renowned Indologist and scholar Georg Feuerstein in 1999. If you type his name in the search engine, you'll find a list of books and articles that he's written. He used to have a magnificent website too but I can't remember the name. Heard it doesn't exist any more and that he has a new site. Haven't had time to find it yet but shall get round to that eventually ) Great reading your thoughts about Soma and fly agaric, thanx for sharing! Think you have a good point there. Resonating with what you said regarding vibe to do with Ommmm. Ommmmms & blessings, Simone , james richard <nhraddude71> wrote: > Namaste Sy, Did you compose that Om eassay yourself? It was intensely indepth. I started getting a little Attention deficet towards the end. Very well researched. > Ive heard of the Soma as being the fly agaric. Ive read stories of how sages would drink the urine of others who injested the soma because the urine was still hallucinogenic but less toxic than the origanal fly agaric because of being filtered through the ingesters liver and kidneys. You cant always believe everything you read ,but it sounded to strange to be fiction. I wish I could give you a reference source but it was just something on the web i read years ago. Im sure if you researched soma enough you would find something like that. I wouldnt be suprised if thats where OM came from. Because Soma or Peoti or Teonanactyl (Toltec for "Gods flesh" also known as psilocyb mexicana) will send you to another demension beyond description. > I just think Its more about the sound vibration than the letters. Theres just a vibe about the sound that just screams sacred. I dont know what it is. It just touches your core. > > Thanks for the info, James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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