Introduction

[Guest guest]

>

> "Gert Braakman" <nature

 

I 've always been fascinated by kundalini yoga but

> never got round to actually doing it. Mainly because my sufe teachers

warned

> against it, as being dangerous. I 'm still fascinated and would like to

know

> more....(dangerous things attract me most)

 

::grins at your bracketed comments:: Kundalini, undirected and

spontaneous, may be unsettling, and I have heard of people having some

troubles with it.....but if you are working slowly and steadily, there is

no danger in working with the energy. I have been taught that to remain

centered in the energy, it is good to breathe to ground yourself first...be

aware of yourself as an energy unit before directing the attention towards

each chakra. This is why kyoga is such a great exercise.

 

> I've been participating in Project Nature Connect for the last 5 years.

It's

> a course that teaches you how to reconnect to nature as the source of all

> healing.

 

That sounds wonderful ))

 

> Which brings me to an important question (probably difficult to answer) I

> 've had neck surgery , some of the nerves in my neck were permanently

> disabled, because they caused a lot of pain. Ever since I wonder whether

> this could affect doing meditation and kundalini excercises. Do have any

> experience which these things?

 

The meditation and kundalini exercises may help your nerve renewal ))

The mind is the greatest healer.....so by directing the energy focus to

those parts of you, you will be affecting change there. You might want to

pay special attention to that part of you....with the intention of healing

it, utilizing yoga, meditation, visualization and chakra work. Also

remember that even if those nerves have been disabled, the body will find a

way to re-route the energy in the manner you want it to go.

 

Nemaste,

Susan

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

 

I am a new r to this list. I live in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida and

although my day job is in the computer field, I have taught Hatha Yoga for

several years-- my first teacher called it "karma yoga" which basically

means I have taught as a service to others. Of course, the benefits to my

own spiritual development have been incredible. I have recently started

teaching Astanga yoga at a local school here in South Florida.

 

I am quite interested in meditation and have experienced many of the

"sensations" described in previous messages. I enjoy reading Buddhist

teachings on meditation and recommend Jack Kornfield's book, " A Path With

Heart". He speaks of meditation practice, opening the chakras, releasing

energies and some of its effects. He describes many of these sensations as

"raptures" which to me sums up the pleasurable energy vibrations I

sometimes feel when meditating. Anyone interested in deepening their

meditation practice may wish to check this book out.

 

I do have a question. About six months ago I began the lessons on Kriya

yoga from Yogananda's Self Realization Fellowship (SRF). From my

readings, Kriya yoga is a scientific way to awaken the energies--- leading

to enlightenment. It sounds very similar to Kundalini yoga. So far the

lessons have been very inspirational, but the scientific methods are pretty

much what I have learned from pranayama and meditation exercises. SRF

states that in order to learn the ultimate secret lesson, you must become

an initiate. I am a bit wary about taking this step.

 

This brings me to my question. Are the techniques taught in Kyoga similar

to Kriya yoga? Has anyone had any experience with Kriya yoga as taught by

the disciples of Yoganada? I am not asking for anyone to reveal any

secrets, but would like to know if the concepts are the same.

 

I have always heard it is best to have a guru guide you in awakening

kundalini. SRF says that since Yogananda was a fully realized master, he

will serve as that guru. Does anybody have any direct experience with

this line of thinking?

 

I am enjoying all the dialog. Although I am unable to check my messages

everyday, I do look forward to any replies.

 

Namaste,

felicia

[Guest guest]

Hi!, my name is Cucu Godhwani, 47 years young and i am from india born

from finnish mother and indian father .I was born in Tangiers(Morroco) but

living in india almost all my life . I was/am a normal businessman doing

exports of leather and articles when suddenly i chanced upon a book "fifty

spiritually Powerful meditations" by Margaret Rodgers. I lay on my back to

try my very FIRST meditational exercise on the 10 th of nov 98 at around

11.30 pm and Lo! Was I scared ! at first I started getting electrical like

prickles all over my body,simultaneously there was some sort of energy

building up from my base chakra upwards( as if there was a 25 kgs wt on my

stomach area and having lava like movements) massaging my solar plexus

area. I just couldnt believe what was happening to me! My otherwise

distorted and runaway monkey mind was not only absent but there were

absolutely no thoughts- there was just nothingness. I was experiencing

very deep breathing which I would normally never be able to do. Thus I was

experiencing a transcendental blissful state which lasted for about 3 to 4

hrs after which I woke up and sat down to review the experience. I noticed

the back of my right hand between my thumb and first fingers I had bruise

marks the photographs of which I took the following day. This was because

the divine energy was concentrating its power on those three or four spots

for almost half an hour and though it started to hurt me a bit I prayed to

Lord Shiva for GRACING /GIFTING me with the EXPERIENCE OF A LIFETIME! The

following two days I felt Godlike - a very pure SOUL .i was transformed !

I felt air-conditioning in my head and my mind was EMPTY! I was a kinder

person, my voice was sweet and as I walked it seemed I was lighter than

air. In India , as you are aware we have many highly realised persons; so

I consulted one such person who said " your kundilini has been awakened!"

But he was highly surprised and impressed because he said it is not easy

to awaken your kundilini power just like that " When I met him the

following week ,being a clairvoyant declared that he had seen in me as a

very saintly person in my last birth who was an accomplished hatha yogi

and hence I was starting from where I had left! It does seem to be the

case as I have never before indulged in meditational activities like

pranayam or practise any kind of yoga. But I have and had been a above

average spiritual person attending satsangs /ashrams to quel my thirst for

the very purpose of LIFE since my childhood.

 

Since then I am on a meditation trip everyday of my life ; I meditate for

at least 2 hrs each day and I seem to get newer experiences almost every

week which I keep writing in my personal diary which I have started

maintaining since the awakening of the Kundalini. I would like to share

some of my experiences with you all! Presently if I just choose to start

meditating, the kundalini power starts automatically rising up to my solar

plexus area like a rising volcano massaging my stomach areas; my mind;s

screen is filled up with yellow and light lilac energy lights shaped like

the moon getting bigger and bigger and then fading away only to come back.

There is 24 hrs ringing in my ears like cicadas in a forest. The sounds

get louder when its time to meditate and during meditation. I get

clairvoyance once a week when I fall asleep after meditation. It starts

with golden lights in my minds screen and then I go in a dizzy and the

next 10 or15 seconds I get 3 d movie like experiences which I know are

100% true! Before I never believed much in idols but as of now I can tell

which temple/idol has real spiritual power ! As I near such temples I

immediately get goose pimples /hair stands on ends and my head/upper body

starts swaying like a coconut tree! Did you know that the K power also

heals your body aches and pains? Well, I had sprained my left foot two

weeks ago ;since three days the k energy was constantly concentrating its

divine energies on that part where it hurt mosts for almost 5 mins each

time . I was crying while the healing was going on as I knew that the

Mother Goddess was within and around me and actually caring for me like a

baby! I have absolutely no pain now! The K power gives me unbelievable

energy boost! Not used to manually working on the machines in my factory

last week due to lack of labour I operated a dangerous machine which only

a skilled operator works on ; I ran the machine for non stop 3hrs ; I was

not one bit tired I could have gone on and on. earlier the tips of my

fingers would get sore and pus would develop the following day but not

this time. I found my finger tips were taut and springy and I could

literaly play a tune on my finger tips.i was so enthralled that I called

some of my workmen to tell them what was happening and I would tap my

thumb and middle fingers to prove to them that my fingers have been

moulded and protected by the Mother Goddess> But alas! None would

understand. Only a person who has been blessed with the Kundalini power

shall understand . Today, I feel i am in meditation all 24

hrs;conscoiusly/unconsciously as i can feel the k-power rumbling in my

solar pexus at all times! The latest until last week was that people

starting scaring me about my overflowing K power which if not properly

practised would then travel criss cross instead of in a straight line

;would leave the possessor with some deformaties. For e.g if the K power

exited through ones eye then it could cause permanent damage to the eye

perhaps paralysis of that entire section. So I was prompted to seek a

real guru for my type of K Yoga. Fortunately , I think I have found him

and when I mustered the energy to talk to him over the phone he said that

I would have to leave non veg, eggs, alcohol, onions , garlic and to avoid

sleeping with my wife on her four days of menses and also strictly not to

eat the food cooked with her hands on such days. I am already practising

all but the last option for which I need my wifes permission.(shes on a

tour) There are valid reasons for this but I shal not delve on this topic

as of now but suffice to tell you all that I asked him to initiate me and

before taking leave of him I asked him to bless me! He said the Mother

Kundalini shall take care of you! From that night onwards I have been

experiencing altogether a different meditation . My K power which was

going hay wire is now under control and I DO NOT HAVE TO ATTEMPT TO DO

ANYTHING as Mother Kundalini does everything. I do not have to start my

pranayam/breathing exercises ,visualising opening of chakras etc . You

just have to sit down in the meditative pose/asan and wait for Kundalini

to work on you. One I am hopefully initiated by my Guru he shall by

"SHAKTIPAT YOGA" PASS ON HIS DIVINE KUNDILINI POWER IN MY BODY AFTERWHICH

THE MOTHER GODDESS PROTECTS YOU LIKE A LOVING MOTHER , TAKING CARE OF YOUR

NEEDS (MATERIAL/SPIRITUAL),NURTURES YOU WHEN YOU ARE SICK, CAN CURE YOU OF

ALL INCURABLE DESEASES AND MAKES SURE OF YOUR SPIRITUAL PROGRESS SO THAT

THE K-POWER TRANSCENDS BEYOND THE EYE CHAKRA AND MERGES WITH THE SAHASRARA

AFTER WHICH ONE IS TRULY LIBERATED.

 

Fellow K power Enthusiasts can any of you shine some more light on my

experiences as I am not very

experienced in this path since long. I am only 5 months old !

Can any one guide me by teaching me how to heal ; I find I have my palm

chakras wide open and waiting to heal. Can some one read my spiritual

health aura if there is one? And also astrological spiritual prediction :

I was born on the 10 th of march 1952 in Tangiers(Morrocco) at 6.40 am.

very warm regards

Sat Nam!

 

Cucu godhwani

[Guest guest]

Dear Mekaal,

 

Thank you for sharing about your Kundalini experiences and your

interactions with your teacher. This is truly a remarkable story. I love

hearing the advise enlightened masters give to their students. I would

suggest asking him your question about what to do with the energy in your

hands.

 

My humble suggestion is to use that energy to help and heal others. There

are so many people that could benefit from the touch of your healing hands.

Maybe even a hand on the shoulder with a blessing from you. Maybe a

massage to relieve a pain. You have been given a gift. The greatest gift

is to share with others. Have fun experimenting how you can share.

 

With many blessings to you. Sat Nam.

 

Gururattan Kaur "Rattana"

 

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> MEKAAL GODHWANI <mekaal

> Kundaliniyoga

> Re: Introduction

> Sunday, April 11, 1999 8:51 AM

>

> MEKAAL GODHWANI <mekaal

>

> Hi!, my name is Cucu Godhwani, 47 years young and i am from india born

> from finnish mother and indian father .I was born in Tangiers(Morroco)

but

> living in india almost all my life . I was/am a normal businessman doing

> exports of leather and articles when suddenly i chanced upon a book

"fifty

> spiritually Powerful meditations" by Margaret Rodgers. I lay on my back

to

> try my very FIRST meditational exercise on the 10 th of nov 98 at around

> 11.30 pm and Lo! Was I scared ! at first I started getting electrical

like

> prickles all over my body,simultaneously there was some sort of energy

> building up from my base chakra upwards( as if there was a 25 kgs wt on

my

> stomach area and having lava like movements) massaging my solar plexus

> area. I just couldnt believe what was happening to me! My otherwise

> distorted and runaway monkey mind was not only absent but there were

> absolutely no thoughts- there was just nothingness. I was experiencing

> very deep breathing which I would normally never be able to do. Thus I

was

> experiencing a transcendental blissful state which lasted for about 3 to

4

> hrs after which I woke up and sat down to review the experience. I

noticed

> the back of my right hand between my thumb and first fingers I had bruise

> marks the photographs of which I took the following day. This was because

> the divine energy was concentrating its power on those three or four

spots

> for almost half an hour and though it started to hurt me a bit I prayed

to

> Lord Shiva for GRACING /GIFTING me with the EXPERIENCE OF A LIFETIME!

The

> following two days I felt Godlike - a very pure SOUL .i was transformed !

 

> I felt air-conditioning in my head and my mind was EMPTY! I was a kinder

> person, my voice was sweet and as I walked it seemed I was lighter than

> air. In India , as you are aware we have many highly realised persons;

so

> I consulted one such person who said " your kundilini has been awakened!"

 

> But he was highly surprised and impressed because he said it is not easy

> to awaken your kundilini power just like that " When I met him the

> following week ,being a clairvoyant declared that he had seen in me as a

> very saintly person in my last birth who was an accomplished hatha yogi

> and hence I was starting from where I had left! It does seem to be the

> case as I have never before indulged in meditational activities like

> pranayam or practise any kind of yoga. But I have and had been a above

> average spiritual person attending satsangs /ashrams to quel my thirst

for

> the very purpose of LIFE since my childhood.

>

> Since then I am on a meditation trip everyday of my life ; I meditate for

> at least 2 hrs each day and I seem to get newer experiences almost every

> week which I keep writing in my personal diary which I have started

> maintaining since the awakening of the Kundalini. I would like to share

> some of my experiences with you all! Presently if I just choose to start

> meditating, the kundalini power starts automatically rising up to my

solar

> plexus area like a rising volcano massaging my stomach areas; my mind;s

> screen is filled up with yellow and light lilac energy lights shaped like

> the moon getting bigger and bigger and then fading away only to come

back.

> There is 24 hrs ringing in my ears like cicadas in a forest. The sounds

> get louder when its time to meditate and during meditation. I get

> clairvoyance once a week when I fall asleep after meditation. It starts

> with golden lights in my minds screen and then I go in a dizzy and the

> next 10 or15 seconds I get 3 d movie like experiences which I know are

> 100% true! Before I never believed much in idols but as of now I can tell

> which temple/idol has real spiritual power ! As I near such temples I

> immediately get goose pimples /hair stands on ends and my head/upper body

> starts swaying like a coconut tree! Did you know that the K power also

> heals your body aches and pains? Well, I had sprained my left foot two

> weeks ago ;since three days the k energy was constantly concentrating its

> divine energies on that part where it hurt mosts for almost 5 mins each

> time . I was crying while the healing was going on as I knew that the

> Mother Goddess was within and around me and actually caring for me like a

> baby! I have absolutely no pain now! The K power gives me unbelievable

> energy boost! Not used to manually working on the machines in my factory

> last week due to lack of labour I operated a dangerous machine which only

> a skilled operator works on ; I ran the machine for non stop 3hrs ; I was

> not one bit tired I could have gone on and on. earlier the tips of my

> fingers would get sore and pus would develop the following day but not

> this time. I found my finger tips were taut and springy and I could

> literaly play a tune on my finger tips.i was so enthralled that I called

> some of my workmen to tell them what was happening and I would tap my

> thumb and middle fingers to prove to them that my fingers have been

> moulded and protected by the Mother Goddess> But alas! None would

> understand. Only a person who has been blessed with the Kundalini power

> shall understand . Today, I feel i am in meditation all 24

> hrs;conscoiusly/unconsciously as i can feel the k-power rumbling in my

> solar pexus at all times! The latest until last week was that people

> starting scaring me about my overflowing K power which if not properly

> practised would then travel criss cross instead of in a straight line

> ;would leave the possessor with some deformaties. For e.g if the K power

> exited through ones eye then it could cause permanent damage to the eye

> perhaps paralysis of that entire section. So I was prompted to seek a

> real guru for my type of K Yoga. Fortunately , I think I have found him

> and when I mustered the energy to talk to him over the phone he said that

> I would have to leave non veg, eggs, alcohol, onions , garlic and to

avoid

> sleeping with my wife on her four days of menses and also strictly not to

> eat the food cooked with her hands on such days. I am already practising

> all but the last option for which I need my wifes permission.(shes on a

> tour) There are valid reasons for this but I shal not delve on this

topic

> as of now but suffice to tell you all that I asked him to initiate me and

> before taking leave of him I asked him to bless me! He said the Mother

> Kundalini shall take care of you! From that night onwards I have been

> experiencing altogether a different meditation . My K power which was

> going hay wire is now under control and I DO NOT HAVE TO ATTEMPT TO DO

> ANYTHING as Mother Kundalini does everything. I do not have to start my

> pranayam/breathing exercises ,visualising opening of chakras etc . You

> just have to sit down in the meditative pose/asan and wait for Kundalini

> to work on you. One I am hopefully initiated by my Guru he shall by

> "SHAKTIPAT YOGA" PASS ON HIS DIVINE KUNDILINI POWER IN MY BODY

AFTERWHICH

> THE MOTHER GODDESS PROTECTS YOU LIKE A LOVING MOTHER , TAKING CARE OF

YOUR

> NEEDS (MATERIAL/SPIRITUAL),NURTURES YOU WHEN YOU ARE SICK, CAN CURE YOU

OF

> ALL INCURABLE DESEASES AND MAKES SURE OF YOUR SPIRITUAL PROGRESS SO THAT

> THE K-POWER TRANSCENDS BEYOND THE EYE CHAKRA AND MERGES WITH THE

SAHASRARA

> AFTER WHICH ONE IS TRULY LIBERATED.

>

> Fellow K power Enthusiasts can any of you shine some more light on my

> experiences as I am not very

> experienced in this path since long. I am only 5 months old !

> Can any one guide me by teaching me how to heal ; I find I have my palm

> chakras wide open and waiting to heal. Can some one read my spiritual

> health aura if there is one? And also astrological spiritual prediction

:

> I was born on the 10 th of march 1952 in Tangiers(Morrocco) at 6.40 am.

> very warm regards

> Sat Nam!

>

> Cucu godhwani

>

>

>

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