Guest guest Posted August 13, 1999 Report Share Posted August 13, 1999 Dear Shepard: In response to your interesting question about God I must chuckle a bit. First, I have felt a part of a greater universal chorus of harmony and light, pure and unending, unspeakable in its love and radiance. Is this God? Certainly not for the traditional Christian. Is it something I can transfer to others? Not in any useful way. It defies that. Words are just plain useless in rendering the wordless. Perfection? Yes, and ecstasy. God? God is in the details, I believe. We are all but dancers and the Music belongs to everyone. Without consciousness there can be no "God." Did God create or do we create God? I fear that it is a little of both. Imagine having a child who in growing up communicates new insights to the adult...seeing with different eyes. Are we then the differing eyes of universal consciousness? Yes, I believe so. Next you'll ask "Why?" Please don't. I am tired this week. LOL Blessings, Love, Zenbob PS, I have had "contact" with other minds while out of my physical body, many quite spiritual or peaceful. They all had a reverence for life and for all living things...they often referred to a "Most High" but never used the term God, as far as I can remember. Is the Most High a title, a name for God, or a state of existence? My questions about this were never answered, yet I was shown a place of unspeakable beauty and brilliant light. Was this state or place the "Most High?" I still cannot say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Sat Nam. I am going on my 6th year practicing kundalini yoga and starting my 2nd year teaching it. My life has changed for the better with my practice as I have felt the direct and profound effect it has had on me. I have learned techniques that I use in my daily life to help cope with situations. I sit here now, confused and upset, over something that happened to me yesterday. I found myself in a group of people that I have been friendly with for quite some time. We found ourselves in a position of talking quite openly about the need to be honest with each other as we work very closely together in our church community and some personality problems had arisen over the past several months that we were trying to resolve. In the middle of this meeting, I was verbally attacked by another member of the church. As it was happening, without even thinking, I closed my eyes, turned inward and began long deep breathing. It got me through an extremely bad situation. However, when I returned home, thankfully with the support and encouragement of my husband and everyone else there, I was trembling and found myself totally unable to calm myself. I must say at this point, that I did feel that the person attacking me verbally was on the verge of attacking me physically. I tried, to no avail, to calm myself, to gain control over the emotions that I was feeling. Focusing on breath and mantra, for the first time in my practice, did not help me. My mind was racing, I was frightened, and could not calm down for quite a while, although I was able to feel better later with an inordinate amount of breathwork. Has this happened to any of you before that your practice of KY was unable to help you? I will continue, of course, with my practice because I know that is essential to my well-being, but I was just curious as to anyone else's experiences in a situation like this. Thank you. DevtaKaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 In a message dated 9/20/99 9:25:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DevtaKaur1 writes: << Focusing on breath and mantra, for the first time in my practice, did not help me. My mind was racing, I was frightened, and could not calm down for quite a while, although I was able to feel better later with an inordinate amount of breathwork. Has this happened to any of you before that your practice of KY was unable to help you? I will continue, of course, with my practice because I know that is essential to my well-being, but I was just curious as to anyone else's experiences in a situation like this. Thank you. DevtaKaur >> Dear DevtaKaur: Such a charged situation can be a most difficult and embarrassing challenge. I do not seek to understand the nature of the accusations and their effect on you, but these very elements that you "glossed over" are somehow the key to this situation. If this member had accused you of "Raising dogs for barbecuing in Virginia for a Vietnamese Bed and Breakfast" you would have laughed at her. If she had said that you "Had been secretly married to the Prince of Monaco and to Sam Donaldson, the news journalist at the same time and that this was flagrant bigamy" then you would have rolled in the aisles. Aside from any fear regarding your physical body, all the words were just words. Where fear and emotional control get lost however, is when we identify with the words and give them power over us. So, for Kundalini to set you free, even with the basic breathing exercises and focusing the mind, if part of the mind remains deeply attached to the "word-fear-image" that the critic lavished upon you, then you will have some trouble casting this off. If there is any small "truth" to the accusations, or if you live in a conscious fear that others might believe these accusations to be true, then you are a victim and can be terrorized by this person time and again. You must confront the words, the meaning and your own fears. Cleanse yourself of the attachments and see them for what they are. If you have done this or that, you must admit or acknowledge it. If you have not, you also must be willing to publicly express that the accusation is not accurate. It is wrong to allow others to slander or libel you or anyone. Be strong...be thoughtful. When your mind's ideas of who you are come as close as possible to the ideas that others have of who you are, then you are making some progress. You should never fear or have concern however, about the mistaken or completely false ideas that others might have about you. Only if you fear that they either are true or can become true, do these ideas have power over you. If a Church member accuses you of being a "Saint" it does not make it so...you should laugh...if the same person decides that you are a "Demon" and accuses you...laugh again. Neither are the truth, and neither should concern you much at all. Sat Nam! Blessings Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 1999 Report Share Posted October 5, 1999 Please do not be upset anybody--but I saw this on a list and thought since it was a good cause I would help spread the word. . . . . . All you do is click a button and somewhere in the world some hungry person gets a meal to eat at no cost to you. The food is paid for by corporate sponsors whose logos you get to look at afterwards. All you do is go to the site and click. You're only allowed one click per day so spread the word to others. Visit the site and pass the word. http://www.thehungersite.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 1999 Report Share Posted October 5, 1999 Hi Soloebe I know that your intentions are for the best, but I would remind everyone that the FAQ clearly lays down that no messages of this sort are to be posted to the list unless previously ok'd by me. This applies to all kinds of messages that circulate around the Net. Many may not be what they seem, although this one I believe to be genuine. On a related matter, I would also ask that folk don't multi-post messages to this and other lists. The next step is that replies from other lists also get forwarded here, and before long we have a total mess on our hands. I have seen it happen elsewhere. This list is about Kundalini Yoga and related matters, and everyone should bear this fact in mind before posting mail that may or may not be relevant. Sat Nam! Gordon - <Soloebe <Kundaliniyoga > Tuesday, October 05, 1999 06:20 Re: > Soloebe > > Please do not be upset anybody--but I saw this on a list and thought since it > was a good cause I would help spread the word. . . . . . > All you do is click a > button and somewhere in the world some hungry person gets a meal to eat at no > cost to you. The food is paid for by corporate sponsors whose logos you > get to look at afterwards. All you do is go to the site and click. You're > only allowed one click per day so spread the word to others. > > Visit the site and pass the word. http://www.thehungersite.com > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > Check out our website: > http://www.gtmark.com/ky/index.htm > > Sponsored by Yoga Technology Press > Popular publishers of books on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. > > > To from this list, go to > ONElist Member Center, or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga- > No requests to the list please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 1999 Report Share Posted October 5, 1999 Dear Soloebe, Caring is the heart chakra and when we truly care about others, our compassion helps open our hearts. We do have to DO in addition to think about how we would like the world to be different. This small gesture of clicking to donate food, not only feeds the hungry but registers kindness in the our planetary force flield. I would like to request, however, in the future to pass any similar letters through Gordon and myself. Gordon knows how to check if things are real or hoaxes. And since this is a KY List, we want to be careful to keep within our territory. I do know about the Hunger Project and have personally met the woman who has been the director for over twenty years. This is one of the most effective grassroot programs on the planet. When they are invited into a village to teach people how to be self-sufficient, they first require that all levels of government from local to national align around several basic intentions. The first is that the program is first and foremost committed to the empowerment of women. This is quite controversial and threatening to all levels of the power structure in developing countries, but they won't budge an inch on this. And it works! Just remembering this opens my heart. Thanks for caring. Sat Nam, RAttana > Please do not be upset anybody--but I saw this on a list and thought since it > was a good cause I would help spread the word. . . . . . > All you do is click a > button and somewhere in the world some hungry person gets a meal to eat at no > cost to you. The food is paid for by corporate sponsors whose logos you > get to look at afterwards. All you do is go to the site and click. You're > only allowed one click per day so spread the word to others. > > Visit the site and pass the word. http://www.thehungersite.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2000 Report Share Posted January 24, 2000 How do you get taken off the list??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2000 Report Share Posted January 24, 2000 Hi Kathleen The link for unsubscribing is contained in the trailer of this and every message to the list. Just given below and then reply to the confirmation request that you will receive from ONElist. It is as simple as that. If you have any problems, please mail me OFF list. Sat Nam! Gordon - Kathleen Stefancin R.D. <games <Kundaliniyoga > Tuesday, January 25, 2000 04:34 RE: > "Kathleen Stefancin R.D." <games > > How do you get taken off the list??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2000 Report Share Posted January 30, 2000 Dear Evicka, > I am not so sure, if head stand, shoulder stand, plough and fish sequence > incorporated into my yoga practice with combination of Kriya for elevation, > breath of fire are ok to practice all at the same time. > Whenever I do this sequence even without adding Kryia for elevation and > breath of fire, I noticed to have prickly disposition for the rest of the day. The first guidance is your own intuition. If this sequence makes you feel irritable and you don't want to feel that way, then you could alter your practice. Are you tuning in before your practice? Make sure you do. One idea is to alternate a hatha yoga sequence one day and KY the next. In general the kryias are done as they are given, unless you are physically unable to do an exercise.. It is fine to add warm ups before a set. The problem with the 4 exercises that you have mentioned is that they are not warm up excercises. They need warming up before doing them. Spinal flexes is an example of a warm up exercise. Easy to do and get your spine loosened up. > It is not difficult for me to get argumentative , but it does not last to > long, I very quickly become aware of it and bring it under control. Yoga does bring up our emotions to be healed. So this is not necessarily bad. I remember when I first started doing KY. When I did the punching I would get so angry. I got angry at everyone until one day I got angry at myself. And then the anger subsided. "I met the enemy and it was me." But the anger did not persist during the day. On the other hand it is very important to non verbally feel the feeling of the emotions in the body so that they can be transmuted and you can use that energy. Anger energy turns into light. The only way to get to this point is to sit there and get into the feeling in your body. There is no short cut. TIP- feeling your emotional energy is a non verbal experience. It does sound like the sequence is throwing you off balance more than aligning you if you have this reaction on a regular basis. Also you may not be resting enough at the end. The deep relaxation is needed to give the body and psyche time to integrate. This is the release, allow part. Also meditation and chanting at the end are very important to integrate the energy. Try doing an 11 minutes meditation to complete your practice. The devotional part is very important because it allows higher forces to help us. > Is there any way I would be able to find out what sequencing is to be done > with what breathing and or how to combine asanas to make my practice more > beneficial and not to get this negative affect? > Also am I to practice sequences for more then 1-2 consecutive days, or > should I be alternating with different one every day? There are different ways. Some people like to do one set each day of the week. Some change each day. Some do 40 days one set and then choose another. This allows you to build up and get the powerful cumulative effects. > As far as your suggestion goes to check with my teacher if I am breathing BF > correctly, well I did ask, but I am attending Hatha Yoga classes and > according to my teacher Bhastrika is the same as KY BF which according to > the book Kundalini Yoga Flow of Eternal Power it is not. > Now I am even more confused Bof F is even inhale and exhale, but the exhale you make happen and the inhale you let happen. > Please advise, as to what is correct. > Is there any good KY teacher in my area? Edmonton, province of Alberta in > Canada? Check www.ikyta.com list. Hope this helps. Why not plan to come to Summer Solstice in New Mexico June 18-25 (approx) Then you can learn all the techniques. This is an invitation for everyone. When the info is on the web I will let you know. In the meantime open the space for this wonderful event. Sat Nam, RAttana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Dear Rattana, Thank you so very much for your detailed explanation to my questions. I will incorporate all of your suggestions to my Yoga rutine and see how will it affect me. >Hope this helps. Why not plan to come to Summer Solstice in New Mexico June >18-25 (approx) Then you can learn all the techniques. This is an >invitation for everyone. When the info is on the web I will let you know. >In the meantime open the space for this wonderful event. The Summer Solstice in New Mexico sounds interesting, yes I would like to know more about it. Sat Nam, Eva >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >Looking for the lowest refinance rate for your mortgage? >GetSmart.com can help. We'll help you find the loan you >need - quick, easy, and FREE click ><a href=" http://clickme./ad/GetSmartRefinance ">Click Here</a> > >------ > >"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > >Check out our website: >kundalini yoga > >Sponsored by Yoga Technology Press >Popular publishers of books on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. > > >To from this list, go to >ONElist Member Center, or send mail to >Kundaliniyoga- >No requests to the list please! > > > ..... Health is wealth, and piece of mind is happiness....[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2000 Report Share Posted February 16, 2000 --- Maya Soskin <MSOSKIN wrote: > What does "LOL" mean? > It means Laugh Out Loud. Cute, isn't it? ===== May you find comfort in the enduring beauty of the world. With the passing of time, may the spirit of acceptance and inner peace enfold you. Spiritual Writings by Sweet Lady Peace: http://www.geocities.com/sweet_lladypeace/siteindex1.html Talk to your friends online with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2000 Report Share Posted February 16, 2000 Could also mean Lots of Love Loads of Loving Living on Love (seems to be a lot of LOVE words) There's a lot more. But, Lady Peace, I think you are right, it started as Laughing out Loud. Brightest Blessings, Adam ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2000 Report Share Posted March 20, 2000 Please stop senting us this KUDALINYOGA stuff NO ONE HERE IS INTERESTED. - Sinead Lawson <shun <kundaliniyoga > Sunday, March 19, 2000 8:04 PM > "Sinead Lawson" <shun > > Hi, my name is Sinead Lawson and I am 25 years old. I am Irish and am currently living in Dublin, however, I have spent much of my life growing up in Asia. I recently just got back from Bali, where I first found out about kundalini from a colleague. I was working there as a Montessori teacher and training staff as well as teaching English to the children. We used to do yoga every morning with the children and with the staff in the afternoons after a long days work. Recently I was diagnosed with a back problem and I suffer greatly from it. Although I went to a physiotherapist and was given exercises to improve it I am searching for som,ething a little more spiritual. > I recently purchased the 'Fly Like a Butterfly' by Shakta Kaur Khalsa and as a fellow Montessori teacher was very excited by what she had written about. Therefore before I thought about putting yoga into practice with my students I wanted to make sure that I had a correct understanding of what kundalini is. > I look forward to learning hand in hand with you. > Many thanks, > Sinead > > > > > > ------ > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates > as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees. > Apply NOW! > http://click./1/975/2/_/505222/_/953496068/ > ------ > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the ONElist Member Center (My ONElist), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga- > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Popular publishers since 1988 of books on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2000 Report Share Posted March 20, 2000 Welcome Sinead....me too am living in Ireland.Swords. Sebastiaan is the name,and 22 is the age.Nice to meet you. >"Sinead Lawson" <shun >Kundaliniyoga ><kundaliniyoga > > >Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:04:02 -0000 > >"Sinead Lawson" <shun > >Hi, my name is Sinead Lawson and I am 25 years old. I am Irish and am >currently living in Dublin, however, I have spent much of my life growing >up in Asia. I recently just got back from Bali, where I first found out >about kundalini from a colleague. I was working there as a Montessori >teacher and training staff as well as teaching English to the children. We >used to do yoga every morning with the children and with the staff in the >afternoons after a long days work. Recently I was diagnosed with a back >problem and I suffer greatly from it. Although I went to a physiotherapist >and was given exercises to improve it I am searching for som,ething a >little more spiritual. >I recently purchased the 'Fly Like a Butterfly' by Shakta Kaur Khalsa and >as a fellow Montessori teacher was very excited by what she had written >about. Therefore before I thought about putting yoga into practice with my >students I wanted to make sure that I had a correct understanding of what >kundalini is. >I look forward to learning hand in hand with you. >Many thanks, >Sinead > > > > > >------ >GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates >as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees. >Apply NOW! >http://click./1/975/2/_/505222/_/953496068/ >------ > >"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the ONElist Member Center (My >ONElist), or send mail to >Kundaliniyoga- >NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! >WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > >KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from >kundalini yogaclasses.html > >Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Popular publishers since 1988 of books on >Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. > > ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Good Morning Doria, I am new to Kundalini Yoga also. I would like to share something that I have found at the KYTraining site. Here is a quote from Lesson 3: "SAT NAM--SEED MANTRA One of the features of Kundalini yoga that makes it so powerful is that we do several things simultaneously. We (1) breathe, (2) internally chant and (3) move (4) in a particular posture or Asana. The internal chant that we mentally vibrate is SAT NAM. As we breathe, we mentally inhale SAT. As we exhale we mentally vibrate NAM. Listen to the sound Saaaaaat and Naaaam in your mind. SAT NAM is a Bij Mantra or a "seed sound." Chanting Sat Nam is like planting a grain of sand in an oyster. Our truth gathers around the grain. Over time, as we accumulate our gifts and gather our true essence into our consciousness, we become the pearl of Self. MEANING SAT means Truth, unchanging universal truth. It is the vibration that is ever-present. NAM means name, identity, to name, to call upon, to identify with. SAT NAM means "Truth is my identity." When we chant Sat Nam (out loud or internally), we resonate with our true identity, with our own truth. Greeting others with the salutation Sat Nam, we acknowledge the other's true identity and our mutual divine identities. 3 Sat Nam is a potent affirmation and a powerful way to cleanse the mind of negative programming. Over time our minds tune into and resonate with who we really are and believe our soul instead of our limited ego. Sat Nam is inner psychology at work. Hope that helps and that it is not a repeat of a response from Gordon. Sat Nam Judy DEEBEE Kundaliniyoga Kundaliniyoga Re: 911 Virus Update Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Dear Gordon .hi! how are you today?can you please explain to me wht Sat Nam means? sincerely! Doria Meyer. thank you for answering me back! doria meyer ------- View my epidemic.com e-mail graphics! http://www.epidemic.com/myepimall.jhtml?emid=33429 ------- http://www.epidemic.com/?emid=33429 The e-mail or Internet service provider used for this e-mail is not affiliated with any advertisements you may see. (Get details at http://www.epidemic.com/public/disclaimer.html) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Hey, Can someone tell me how to get off of this list. Or maybe they could remove my name for me. Thanks Shannon Reed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Dearjudy.i would like to thank you! for your input of what Sat Nam is.i am new to this too! thank you once again ! sincerely! Doria meyer doria meyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 youcan by going to this page. http://kundaliniyoga-uns doria meyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2000 Report Share Posted September 21, 2000 Sat Nam Sadhant, Thank you so much for your response to my basics email. Definitely gives me a starting point. Another question I have is why do so many people think that the Kundalini energy should remain coiled? What is the purpose of working on getting it to rise, only to force it back? Both my Reiki teacher, and my Tai Chi Master have recommended that I do so, and yet I am ok with it just the way it is. Sometimes it is tiring to have energy surges, and I know I need to remain grounded, but I am learning to live with the energy, and have learned to make peace with the process. Is the practice of KY generally done to achieve Ascension or to awaken Shakti? Also, can anyone shed some light on the importance of this day, September 22, 2000 (Equinox, Archangel Michael)? Thanks and have a wonderful day, Julia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 I started Kundalini yoga three weeks ago. I follow the video by Gurmukh. I felt enlightened from the very first minutes of doing Kundalini yoga. This morning after I started doing this practise for a few minutes my face became very very hot. In fact I kept opening my eyes to check if there was a flame by my face, it felt just like a fire and as if my face was slightly burning. Can somebody help shed some light on this experience. I would really appreciate this. Sat Nam Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 Dear Laura, Thats Kundalini energy in the upper chakras. SAt Nam, Gururattan Kaur I felt enlightened from the very first minutes of doing Kundalini yoga. > This morning after I started doing this practise for a few minutes my face > became very very hot. In fact I kept opening my eyes to check if there was > a flame by my face, it felt just like a fire and as if my face was slightly burning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Roberto, I would have to admit I am scared about the whole thing to and under NO circumstances want any kind of war. Hopefuly, they will bring whoever to justice and protect the american soil and no war will be uncertaken. I like what someone on here wrote, as they quoted Gaundi as saying,An eye for an eye makes both people blind. If the powers at hand can only see that and come to a peaceful agreement without more death occuring. Gaundi died you know. It all scares me so. I pray there will be only peace as we are all brothers and sisters of the great one.I have friends all over the world and some are of arab descent. I have an almost 18 year old son that I would not want to see go to war or be injured in all these attacks within our own soil. I hope we all can learn from all this and not interfere with eachothers politics. I did not agree with what the US did in supplying guns. that was stupid. and I don't agree on revenge as it only makes matters worse and then we all attack eachother. Dear God I pray you look down upon us and send us your peace and understanding in order to share it with our brother and they with us. Thankyou for writing back, may peace and intuitive understanding come upon us all so that we may learn to love oneanother, melanie On Fri, 14 September 2001, robertocagliero wrote: > > Dear Melanie, I certainly had no intention to breed hate, and if this is the > impression you got from my message I do apologize to you, Samantha, and > other list members who might have felt insulted by what I said. And I am > sure that you do agree when I say that "any war action is bound to kill > innocent people". > > I also agree that every country and every President makes both good and bad > things. > However, not every country and every President has the military power that > Bush has at hand. Many of us are concerned about what the American President > will do now, and how devastating the consequences will be. I am horrified > by the possibility of a worldwide conflict developing out of this tragedy. > > But yes, I do not like your President. I think he is a dangerous character. > This time he certainly has a chance to change my mind about him. > > Ang Sang Wahe Guru > Roberto ___________ For the most comprehensive Traditional Healthcare information on the Web, visit http://www.acupuncture.com today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Sat Nam, I did not perceive Roberto as speaking nationalistically and pointing a finger at the USA. It is when we identify ourselves with this body, that we get stuck in the "us" and "them" complex. This country is a creator of violence and so are others. It doesn't matter who did it, it matters how we respond, and responding with more violence will not prevent more violence from falling upon us, that is what karma teaches us. The only thing that can end violence is to stop committing it and look to God, pray, Love, and work together. Love Always, Littlebird Leslie > > robertocagliero [robertocagliero] > Friday, September 14, 2001 9:41 AM > Kundaliniyoga > > > > Dear Melanie, I certainly had no intention to breed hate, and > if this is the impression you got from my message I do > apologize to you, Samantha, and other list members who might > have felt insulted by what I said. And I am sure that you do > agree when I say that "any war action is bound to kill > innocent people". > > I also agree that every country and every President makes > both good and bad things. However, not every country and > every President has the military power that Bush has at hand. > Many of us are concerned about what the American President > will do now, and how devastating the consequences will be. I > am horrified by the possibility of a worldwide conflict > developing out of this tragedy. > > But yes, I do not like your President. I think he is a > dangerous character. This time he certainly has a chance to > change my mind about him. > > Ang Sang Wahe Guru > Roberto > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > ---------------------~--> Get your FREE credit report with a > FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial > http://us.click./MDsVHB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA> /bpSolB/TM > > > ----------------------------- > -------~-> > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member > Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA > TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & > Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Sat Nam Roberto, There are a lot of people who feel like you do. Have you seen any of his speeches in regards to the attack on NY and DC? He is acting as a stateman. He did not come out ranting and raving. His demeanor has been one of clam. He chooses his words carefully and is keeping is country united. For those who would speak out against him at this moment, I would say step into his shoes, let's see how you do. I did not take offense, except for the phrase "electric happy" Blessings, Samantha - <robertocagliero <Kundaliniyoga> Friday, September 14, 2001 9:41 AM > Dear Melanie, I certainly had no intention to breed hate, and if this is the > impression you got from my message I do apologize to you, Samantha, and > other list members who might have felt insulted by what I said. And I am > sure that you do agree when I say that "any war action is bound to kill > innocent people". > > I also agree that every country and every President makes both good and bad > things. > However, not every country and every President has the military power that > Bush has at hand. Many of us are concerned about what the American President > will do now, and how devastating the consequences will be. I am horrified > by the possibility of a worldwide conflict developing out of this tragedy. > > But yes, I do not like your President. I think he is a dangerous character. > This time he certainly has a chance to change my mind about him. > > Ang Sang Wahe Guru > Roberto > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2001 Report Share Posted September 23, 2001 Hi to All I have clearly requested this week that firstly no more posts are made concerning the events of September 11th, and secondly that no circulars, petitions or other kinds of multiple address messages are sent to the list. At times it appears that my messages fall on deaf ears. Moderated status awaits the senders of all such mail to the list! Sat Nam! Gordon - "Maria mazin" <mariamazin kundalini yoga Sunday, September 23, 2001 08:56 Fwd: > > > > >"John Bloebaum" <charb > >Kundaliniyoga > >"Silvia Williams" <info > >CC: "Bryan Bloebaum" <baum, " Brian" <Hawickbod, > >" Carolyn Bloebaum" <bloebaum, " Dave Johnston" > ><dharmadave, " Diana LoVerso" <dloverso, " Elsie > >McFarland" <ejmac, " Frank Engel" > ><franklispeaking, " Gwen Patch" <Gmzanon, " Jennifer > >Woods new" <wooddancerdesign, " Joanne Denzer" > ><bodycameramount, " joyceann hagen" <jahagen, > >" Karen Clark (home)" <dessertdiva, " Kundalini Yoga" > >kundalini yoga, " Leah Engel" <swingkat311, > >" Nancy & Tim Montgomery/Hurd" <tan, " Neville Escher" > ><neschen, " Paige Wallace" <PWallace, " Paulette > >Reese Dennis" <gypsycaravan, " Peggy Reuler" > ><Peggy_Reuler, " Perrin, Patricia A." > ><PAPERRIN, " Robert Shipleynew" <maserbob40, > >" Rosie Williams" <rwilliams, " Russell Dawson" > ><rldawson, " Silvia Williams" <info, > >" Victor Waters" <thewaters, " tracy jarvis" > ><tracyj, " Vicki McElliott" > ><vickimc, " Siobhan MacMahon" > ><siobhanmac > > > >20 Sep 2001 00:09:44 -0700 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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