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Hi Chris,

 

I just read your beautiful and inspirational letter. I can't answer any of

your questions because I've only just begun to practice Kundalini Meditation

within the past few days. I am trying to work some of the concepts into my

hatha yoga, which I have been practicing for about a year. Also, I am using

a seemingly good book, KUNDALINI AWAKENING: A GENTLE GUIDE TO CHAKRA

ACTIVATION AND SPIRITUAL GROWTH as an instructional manual.

 

My question to you is Are you in a class for your practice, or are you using

a video or a manual or what? I know that a class would be the ideal way to

get into the discipline but that is not possible for me at the moment.

 

My initial experience in identifying and acknowledging my chakras was that I

began to cry, not in sadness, BUT because there seemed to be some joyous and

exploding dancing and celebration within me that I was somehow becoming

connected to myself! It was like I was finally becoming one within myself.

So, I know I have much to look forward to, and I thank you and congratulate

you on your beautiful experiences.

 

Best regards,

 

Bill

 

 

 

>"Chris Horton (Work)" <chorton

>Kundaliniyoga

><Kundaliniyoga >

> New Member

>Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:12:04 -0400

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>"Chris Horton (Work)" <chorton

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>Hello everyone I joined this list because I believe I am going through a

>Kundalini Awakening. I have all of the spontaneous symptoms like pains in

>chest, muscle twitches, spasms, itching, tingling, immense energy, and

>powerful emotions that accompany Kundalini. I am pretty much a spiritual

>person so everything I go through involving Kundalini is accepted. I

>believe

>I awakened it through Kundalini Yoga. In the first Kundalini Meditation I

>saw my death through two past lives. Afterwards my body couldn't stop

>buzzing for the whole day. :~> I wanted to know how long do these symptoms

>last? I assume they last until the cleansing is finished. Also after the

>cleansing is done what happens then? What is everyday life like? Have any

>of

>you had anything worser than the subtle symptoms listed above? The worst

>thing for me is I am now Lactose Intolerant. This started up (or got

>worser)

>as soon as I got on the spiritual path.

>

>Thanks in advance for all or your comments and questions.

>I want to e-mail real people who have gone through the process.

>

>Chris Horton

>mook

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Hello everyone I joined this list because I believe I am going through a

Kundalini Awakening. I have all of the spontaneous symptoms like pains in

chest, muscle twitches, spasms, itching, tingling, immense energy, and

powerful emotions that accompany Kundalini. I am pretty much a spiritual

person so everything I go through involving Kundalini is accepted. I believe

I awakened it through Kundalini Yoga. In the first Kundalini Meditation I

saw my death through two past lives. Afterwards my body couldn't stop

buzzing for the whole day. :~> I wanted to know how long do these symptoms

last? I assume they last until the cleansing is finished. Also after the

cleansing is done what happens then? What is everyday life like? Have any of

you had anything worser than the subtle symptoms listed above? The worst

thing for me is I am now Lactose Intolerant. This started up (or got worser)

as soon as I got on the spiritual path.

 

Thanks in advance for all or your comments and questions.

I want to e-mail real people who have gone through the process.

 

Chris Horton

mook

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Dear Chris:

 

I am only commenting at a distance...so this is a bit like a Doctor trying to

diagnose a patient from far away...

 

If this is the first "wave" of Kundalini symptoms and you do mention feeling

a need for cleansing...then you have just opened one or two of the first

Chakra points...the lowest at the base of the spine (which often results in

the leg pains you describe) and the next above the pelvic region, just below

the solar plexus, (abdominal discomfort).

 

These symptoms actually should not get worse. ("worser" not a word). However,

we should not discount the flu, either. LOL

 

However, if you maintain the Kundalini Yoga practices, you should feel much

more than just a flush of energy and discomfort when the higher Chakras open.

At the heart, you will feel intense emotions, spontaneous crying and a sense

of incredible love for all living things. When the throat and third eye

open, you will experience psychic and sensory experiences that could be quite

unusual. When your crown actually opens...whoosh! As we all say...and you

don't feel any bodily sensation at all. None...zip...you are plain out of

the body...and then kind of in and then kind of out...

 

That is why so much discussion of late has been about proper or useful

grounding techniques to allow one to safely reconnect with "normal" life in a

functional way.

 

Good luck, but be moderate with those lower Chakra exercises and

stimulation...K is natural Viagra, if you get my drift. :))

 

LOL

 

Blessings

Love,

 

Zenbob

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Hi Bill thanks for your reply,

 

Before I even knew about K I used to meditate on raising my chakras and

OOBE's. I am not part of any classes and I have not worked with videos. I do

however read about K in the book "Kundalini and the Charkas A Practical

Manual Evolution in this Lifetime" It's pretty good in describing the

awakening techniques. I have been meditation with the chakras for about 4

months on and off and K Yoga for about 3 months. During my first K

meditation I saw someone in red stab me through the stomach. I think it was

a roman solider, but the strange thing was my stomach was stinging

afterwards. The same thing happened when someone cut out my tongue. It was

stinging for a whole day. I was pretty emotional afterwards but I accepted

it just a memory. I think this is why I so afraid of people with big knives.

:~> Just make sure you follow the directions of grounding and moving the

energy out of the top of your head. When I didn't do this I 2 got boils the

next day because of extra energy.

 

Enjoy!

Chris

 

 

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>"Bill ." <prising

>

>Hi Chris,

>

>I just read your beautiful and inspirational letter. I can't answer any of

>your questions because I've only just begun to practice Kundalini

Meditation

>within the past few days. I am trying to work some of the concepts into my

>hatha yoga, which I have been practicing for about a year. Also, I am

using

>a seemingly good book, KUNDALINI AWAKENING: A GENTLE GUIDE TO CHAKRA

>ACTIVATION AND SPIRITUAL GROWTH as an instructional manual.

>

>My question to you is Are you in a class for your practice, or are you

using

>a video or a manual or what? I know that a class would be the ideal way to

>get into the discipline but that is not possible for me at the moment.

>

>My initial experience in identifying and acknowledging my chakras was that

I

>began to cry, not in sadness, BUT because there seemed to be some joyous

and

>exploding dancing and celebration within me that I was somehow becoming

>connected to myself! It was like I was finally becoming one within myself.

>So, I know I have much to look forward to, and I thank you and congratulate

>you on your beautiful experiences.

>

>Best regards,

>

>Bill

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Thanks for your comments Zenbob,

 

I stopped working on my chakras when I started working on K. I will have to

work on them again now that K has been awakened. And yes I do know what you

mean K IS a natural viagra. I hope it's like that when I get older. I am

only 22.

 

Chris

 

 

ZEN2WRK <ZEN2WRK

Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga >

Saturday, August 21, 1999 12:19 AM

Re: New Member

 

 

>ZEN2WRK

>

>Dear Chris:

>

>I am only commenting at a distance...so this is a bit like a Doctor trying

to

>diagnose a patient from far away...

>

>If this is the first "wave" of Kundalini symptoms and you do mention

feeling

>a need for cleansing...then you have just opened one or two of the first

>Chakra points...the lowest at the base of the spine (which often results in

>the leg pains you describe) and the next above the pelvic region, just

below

>the solar plexus, (abdominal discomfort).

>

>These symptoms actually should not get worse. ("worser" not a word).

However,

>we should not discount the flu, either. LOL

>

>However, if you maintain the Kundalini Yoga practices, you should feel much

>more than just a flush of energy and discomfort when the higher Chakras

open.

>At the heart, you will feel intense emotions, spontaneous crying and a

sense

>of incredible love for all living things. When the throat and third eye

>open, you will experience psychic and sensory experiences that could be

quite

>unusual. When your crown actually opens...whoosh! As we all say...and you

>don't feel any bodily sensation at all. None...zip...you are plain out of

>the body...and then kind of in and then kind of out...

>

>That is why so much discussion of late has been about proper or useful

>grounding techniques to allow one to safely reconnect with "normal" life in

a

>functional way.

>

>Good luck, but be moderate with those lower Chakra exercises and

>stimulation...K is natural Viagra, if you get my drift. :))

>

>LOL

>

>Blessings

>Love,

>

>Zenbob

>

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>

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>publishers of a popular range of books

>on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation.

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>>>"Chris Horton" <mook I stopped working on my

chakras when I started working on K. >>>

 

I'm confused. How does Kundalini yoga exist without the chakras? Sorry

if this is a completely naive question.

 

Angie

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Hi Chris:

 

Well, I am 45 and thus far K as a Viagra substitute seems quite enough for

me. Yes, integration of focus of Chakra release with K exercises is

essential! You must have channels for energy focus and release or else you

will get weird results, aberrations, stresses and even illness, paralysis and

hallucination. Under no circumstances should you be using any alcohol,

strong drugs (even prescription medications) during K release work.

 

Also, if you drive a car or operate heavy equipment, machinery, or power

tools...well, hopefully you understand where I am going with this. Too

often, Western students believe that they can "tap the doors of infinite

potential" and then just hop on the Harley and cruise the Interstate, have a

few drinks and just enjoy. Nothing could be more wrong, as I am sure you

could guess. It is sometimes difficult to remember how to sign your name

after a very successful K experience.

 

I remember that one Friday evening (a Favorite K time of mine) I had done

some very deep work and Saturday morning was just taking it easy, working

with my sled dogs (a good grounding exercise, by the way) when I remembered

that I needed to get to the bank before it closed so that the Mortgage

payment would be there on Monday! I was hardly capable of driving, but I did

anyway...and every little thing by the roadside...trees, shrubs, hill sides

just seemed incredible and lovely. This was great, but it made for a very

nervous driving experience. When I got to the bank I had to fill out the

deposit slip and this took forever. I was much more keen on checking out

everyone's aura. When I got to the teller and presented my deposit I had not

signed the check. No big deal, as many will not sign until they actually are

in front of the teller. But, it took me such a long time to sign the

check...I worried that the teller would think I was trying to forge my own

signature. But my Driver's license and picture still matched me...so she

relaxed.

 

I guess the point I am making is that K work can interfere with a lot of

regular work, if you are not careful with time and proper release of energy.

Bellows breathing (quick successive deep breaths) can raise the K and slow,

long held breathing can release excess energy. Jogging, hiking, etc., are

great releases, and I even used to play tennis to focus and release

"residual" excesses of energy. However, I wouldn't try to play tennis right

after raising the K...of course if your tennis partner is also your K

partner...

 

Good Luck,

 

Zenbob

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I read somewhere that if your chakras are closed K tries to open them, when

it does it pain may occur. If you open them during charka meditation that

sort of remove the block without pain. Eventually K removes the blocks but

it may take longer depending on your energy level. Check out

http://www.spiritweb.org for more info. I they have good explanations on K

and the charkas but you may not find them explained together.

 

 

Have Fun!

Chris

 

 

angela crosby <drums1018

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Saturday, August 21, 1999 4:49 PM

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>drums1018 (angela crosby)

>

>>>>"Chris Horton" <mook I stopped working on my

>chakras when I started working on K. >>>

>

>I'm confused. How does Kundalini yoga exist without the chakras? Sorry

>if this is a completely naive question.

>

>Angie

>

>

>

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Thanks Zenbob,

 

A great answer every time. I wish I was up there, but it all takes time. To

take the ride is almost as exciting as getting to your destination. What

kind of other experiences have you had? Can you heal? Can you see your aura

in the mirror without concentrating? I can see my but if you move your eye

once it's gone. I also can't seem to see others without a mirror or beige

background. The sign your name thing is a little too much for me right now

because of my technical work. Jr. Programmer, Software Tester, Software

Configuration Engineer, and Test Manager Backup. I was trying to meditate on

my throat chakra but nothing would happen. Keep in mind it has been stuck

for many years. Shy around people including girls. I never knew what to say.

Year around it's always congested. But I am working on that Charka

specifically though.

 

Thanks,

Chris

 

 

>

>Hi Chris:

>

>Well, I am 45 and thus far K as a Viagra substitute seems quite enough for

>me. Yes, integration of focus of Chakra release with K exercises is

>essential! You must have channels for energy focus and release or else you

>will get weird results, aberrations, stresses and even illness, paralysis

and

>hallucination. Under no circumstances should you be using any alcohol,

>strong drugs (even prescription medications) during K release work.

>

>Also, if you drive a car or operate heavy equipment, machinery, or power

>tools...well, hopefully you understand where I am going with this. Too

>often, Western students believe that they can "tap the doors of infinite

>potential" and then just hop on the Harley and cruise the Interstate, have

a

>few drinks and just enjoy. Nothing could be more wrong, as I am sure you

>could guess. It is sometimes difficult to remember how to sign your name

>after a very successful K experience.

>

>I remember that one Friday evening (a Favorite K time of mine) I had done

>some very deep work and Saturday morning was just taking it easy, working

>with my sled dogs (a good grounding exercise, by the way) when I remembered

>that I needed to get to the bank before it closed so that the Mortgage

>payment would be there on Monday! I was hardly capable of driving, but I

did

>anyway...and every little thing by the roadside...trees, shrubs, hill sides

>just seemed incredible and lovely. This was great, but it made for a very

>nervous driving experience. When I got to the bank I had to fill out the

>deposit slip and this took forever. I was much more keen on checking out

>everyone's aura. When I got to the teller and presented my deposit I had

not

>signed the check. No big deal, as many will not sign until they actually

are

>in front of the teller. But, it took me such a long time to sign the

>check...I worried that the teller would think I was trying to forge my own

>signature. But my Driver's license and picture still matched me...so she

>relaxed.

>

>I guess the point I am making is that K work can interfere with a lot of

>regular work, if you are not careful with time and proper release of

energy.

>Bellows breathing (quick successive deep breaths) can raise the K and slow,

>long held breathing can release excess energy. Jogging, hiking, etc., are

>great releases, and I even used to play tennis to focus and release

>"residual" excesses of energy. However, I wouldn't try to play tennis

right

>after raising the K...of course if your tennis partner is also your K

>partner...

>

>Good Luck,

>

>Zenbob

>

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>on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation.

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>

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Dear Chris:

 

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I will limit my comments to an interesting

portion of your letter.

 

You wrote:

 

<< Can you see your aura

in the mirror without concentrating? I can see my but if you move your eye

once it's gone. I also can't seem to see others without a mirror or beige

background. >>

 

This is exactly how I began developing this ability. In order to progress,

practice does seem to be necessary. I also began getting polarized filters

that were either bronze or very dark gray to look through, when there was

bright light that washed out the aura. The looking, then having to look away

phenomenon is well documented, and this is due to the fact that the frequency

of light that we perceive for auras is actually an interference pattern that

our eyes can translate into "normal color bands." If we disfocus the eyes a

bit, really relax and not try too hard, the aura pops into clear view. As

soon as we then try to focus or look "more closely" it disappears. It's a

little like those neat books with all the jumbled colors that resolve into 3D

pictures if you relax and allow the eyes to look "beyond" or through the page

itself at a more distant focal point. If you look right at "it" it

disappears.

 

Try having a person hold a glass of water, breathe deeply several times while

concentrating their personality or energy into the water. Next have them

drink the water (cold is best) and then read their aura! It's an amazing

form of supercharging the subject temporarily.

 

Warm Regards,

Blessings,

Love,

 

Zenbob

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