Guest guest Posted August 31, 1999 Report Share Posted August 31, 1999 Hello Zenbob, Yeah, UCLA is still UCLA... It was nice hearing from you. I am a novice at this but I am very interested in spiritual pursuits. Do you have any advice for a beginner...readings I should do, people I should communicate with, websites I should visit, etc. I appreciate any kind of advice you have for me. Again, thank you for replying to my e-mail and hope to be in contact. Sincerely, Ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 1999 Report Share Posted September 1, 1999 In a message dated 8/31/99 8:36:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ALIKHOSH writes: << Hello Zenbob, Yeah, UCLA is still UCLA... It was nice hearing from you. I am a novice at this but I am very interested in spiritual pursuits. Do you have any advice for a beginner...readings I should do, people I should communicate with, websites I should visit, etc. I appreciate any kind of advice you have for me. Again, thank you for replying to my e-mail and hope to be in contact. Sincerely, Ali >> Dear Ali: You might initially refer to the following links: For an introduction to some of the basic concepts, refer to the Kundalini FAQ <http://www.spiritweb.com/Spirit/kundalini-faq.html> and the Kundalini Yoga FAQ <http://www.spiritweb.com/Spirit/yoga/kundalini-yoga.html>. Use the links in our bookmark area to explore many interesting and relevant web sites. There are a lot of good books on Meditation techniques by Vivekananda, Muktananda, and Yogananda, all of which are fine for developing focus and attunement. Additionally, there is the fun "A Chakra & Kundalini Workbook" by Dr. Jonn Mumford, published by Llewellyn Publishers. It is relatively recent, 1997 or so. Now, all these fine books and written advice are great, but limiting. All of this is merely "intellectual" direction, not learning by doing. So meditation, practicing specific techniques is of utmost importance. And if you wish to understand Tantra and the power of Kundalini in the ultimate sense, then you must have a partner who can carefully and intimately guide you, as well. This is a choice you can only make when prepared and comfortable to do so. Because this crosses so many boundaries of cultural values, morals, ethics, etc., it is not to be done or undertaken lightly. However, as you no doubt have gathered in reading the communication on this list, a great deal occurs when two people merge their efforts to achieve ultimate Kundalini release. The biggest problem is that most younger males in our society would look upon this as simply an exciting sexual adventure and be useless as Tantra/K partners. They must be willing to maintain a state of energy without reaching conventional climax and their attention must be focused intensely upon the most subtle of vibratory effects, matching your rhythm, breathing, etc., and avoid self indulgence. This is easily said, but requires effort and skill to achieve. If you have an intimate friend who is willing to learn these techniques, that is fine, and many couples do develop good techniques together...as long as both also study and meditate individually as well. Like archery, however, I would say the most progress is often achieved with a student finding a sincere and well regarded teacher, at least to direct their basic skills and habits (even if they do not actually engage in any physically intimate actions). If two archery students with the best of intentions attempted to learn archery, they could make some progress, but the student working with a skilled expert trainer will do far better and avoid pitfalls. Blessings Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 1999 Report Share Posted September 4, 1999 In a message dated 9/1/99 7:37:49 PM Central Daylight Time, ZEN2WRK writes: > If you have an intimate friend who is willing to learn these techniques, that > > is fine, and many couples do develop good techniques together...as long as > both also study and meditate individually as well. Like archery, however, I > > would say the most progress is often achieved with a student finding a > sincere and well regarded teacher ZenBob, have you found such a teacher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 1999 Report Share Posted September 4, 1999 In a message dated 9/4/99 4:42:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SLapla8352 writes: < If you have an intimate friend who is willing to learn these techniques, that > > is fine, and many couples do develop good techniques together...as long as > both also study and meditate individually as well. Like archery, however, I > > would say the most progress is often achieved with a student finding a > sincere and well regarded teacher ZenBob, have you found such a teacher? >> Dear SLapla: I have studied under Kriya instructors, Prana Yoga instructors, Swami Muktananda and several most accomplished Martial Arts teachers whose wisdom was most profound (more valued because they had cultivated inner silence and never portrayed themselves as other than teachers of Karate, Aikido or Tae Kwan Do...but they had attained true mastery of art and Chi as well). I truly wish that I could say that any one or any combination of teachers that I have been privileged to work with had "ultimate" knowledge or vision, but this is not the case. Each of these worthy examples had personal failings, human limitations and in some cases fatal flaws. The old adage, "Familiarity breeds contempt" is perhaps too strong an example...but those who most set themselves up as "masters" and perfected leaders, also set themselves up for the greatest "fall." Idealistic, young, and faithful followers, students and devotees often do not find these all too human flaws until it is "too late." They have invested so much personal time, devotion, money into the quest and have in many ways become inexorably linked to the path, organization and teacher in the minds of others that to "back out" or reveal that the "emperor might be at least partly clothed at best" is very difficult, if not impossible. Part of this problem is the expectation of perfection and infallibility. So a good teacher, one who is truly profoundly wise does not place themselves into this deadly corner. Such is the example of my Martial Arts instructors, who clearly expressed their own limitations, faults and never made claims of complete mastery. I think in a complete, fully realized life, we must always be seeking two masters: the master within and the master who lurks in the eyes of all we meet. To limit this search otherwise is the path of illusion and disappointment. Blessings, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 1999 Report Share Posted September 5, 1999 Zenbob - I believe SLapla was asking if you had found a "skilled instructor" of Tantric sex techniques. After reading your post to Ali, I'm also quite interested in your answer to that question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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