Guest guest Posted September 6, 1999 Report Share Posted September 6, 1999 >Be wary, of course, of those who would offer to provide you with exceptional >Tantra training in a motel room for a one time fee of a hundred dollars or >more, "but no kinky stuff or violence" as these are not well regarded Tantra >teachers, and this type of training is not looked upon with favor by local >constabularies in most communities. ) Thanks for the advise zenbob...We have plenty of these tantric trainers in the Motels round where I work, but I doubt most of them are Buddhist or trained as your trainer was...by the way, I thought Shakti Parwha Kaur Hkalsa's chapter on Tantra Yoga was interesting in which she delineated White, Black and Red Tantra. I think the practice of Tantra on a spiritual level is the optimal goal... with the physical or Red Tantra or left handed Tantra being in disrepute in most places and rarely if ever actually practised...also, it tends to awaken puritanical condemnations from those who least understand. I may be living in the best of all possible worlds zenbob, but frankly free yoga seems to be working out pretty well from where I can see... once you offer something like that...you can see the energy in people's faces when they smile! The rest is easy... so I have kids and their mothers in class... Some old people.. everyone enjoys... By the way, you may remember the community mental health movement in this country (USA) ...they started using the same argument you espoused... well people here in the usa value money so it cheapens us and our service when we don't charge anything... well guess what happened, the so called community mental health movement is now controlled by hmo's and medic-cal and now could care a rat's ass about sick people in the community! Let's not go down that path...keep money as far aaway from this as we can and believe me the "pay off" will be greater than you or anyone else can possibly imagine! - Art lgregory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 1999 Report Share Posted September 6, 1999 In a message dated 9/6/99 8:52:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lgregory writes: << Some old people.. everyone enjoys... By the way, you may remember the community mental health movement in this country (USA) ...they started using the same argument you espoused... well people here in the usa value money so it cheapens us and our service when we don't charge anything... well guess what happened, the so called community mental health movement is now controlled by hmo's and medic-cal and now could care a rat's ass about sick people in the community! Let's not go down that path...keep money as far aaway from this as we can and believe me the "pay off" will be greater than you or anyone else can possibly imagine! - Art >> Dear Art: I am not sure that what occurred with community health organizations could be compressed into the framework you describe...many closed because they did not make enough money to justify their existence. So, this may not be the best example, although I certainly feel as you do about what a loss this is to communities and the horror of HMO's. I think, as I mentioned, and as many have expressed, that in order for this to be a fair exchange, it is sometimes good to have those who are able to, donate time, efforts, food, etc., as an offering of appreciation. I do not see that this would compromise your ideals or feelings about your efforts. My question is simple...if all your classes are free and the facility costs "X" per month, and phone service costs "Y" per month, how is it wrong to attempt to collect enough in donations to maintain these expenses? Everyone knows that all of these things cost money. It is not as if you were asking for skads of cash to buy Rolls Royces...since you only have two and the neighbors have five. (LOL) I am not suggesting that you "should" charge...that is your choice and if everything works for you and your students in the system that you have...don't change it! However, I am cautioning against harsh judgment on those who must charge some fees, accept donations or ask for help in exchange for the lessons they receive. Believe me, I have done it both ways. Neither method is without limitations or advantages. By the way, Art...where is this Utopian center for learning located? LOL I might want to take some "free lessons" too, if I am ever near your area. Warm Regards, Blessings Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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