Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Hi to all ! I have been thinking on one aspect of the experiences that I have had since my spiritual awakening and need some feedback.Who can help? Since meditating and practicing the healing meditation I have often felt completely lonely - I am not able to understand if this is loneliness or even dettachment or even isolation, but I do realise that I have undergone a great change within myself . I "feel " a great quietness within me. it is like I am sitting watching the world go by and am not really a part of it. Things that would have made me angry or upset just do not affect me any more. I feel as though everything has slowed down and I am silently watching things going on without really being a part ot it.Like I am some obserever of things taking place without it really affecting me.(sometimes I do not even think anything, this is not like being numb - I am aware but so quiet) ) Is this normal or is this just a transit time ?? I observe things going on around me and understand what is going on but do not let it become a part of me. Who can help??Maybe I have just become aware of my being an observant person? Ingrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Ingrid )) What a wonderful experience you are having!!! "When you are alone you are not alone, you are simply lonely--and there is a tremendous difference between loneliness and aloneness. When you are lonely you are thinking of the other, you are missing the other. Loneliness is a negative state. Loneliness is absence of the other. Aloneness is the presence of oneself. Aloneness is very positive. It is a presence, overflowing presence. You are so full of presence that you can fill the whole universe with your presence and there is no need for anybody." Osho The Discipline of Transcendence Volume 1, Chapter 2 Detachment is an expression of being in the now - being who you are. Being in the now has no attachment to the past or present - it is pure conscious awareness - a watching, just as described. You are watching, with great indifference as to outcome, with no judging or criticism, how you and others operate. You now know the difference between what you are and who you are. Is it normal?? oh yeah!!!! It has come about from your meditation. Now that you have found it, over time you will find it easier to stay there for longer periods of time. Enjoy it, Ingrid. It is great to be watching and seeing the grand picture of things unfolding. Just don't operate heavy machinery while watching. You tend to forget about stuff like fingers and toes )) Brightest blessings, Love, Susan > I have been thinking on one aspect of the experiences that I have had since > my spiritual awakening and need some feedback.Who can help? Since meditating > and practicing the healing meditation I have often felt completely lonely - > I am not able to understand if this is loneliness or even dettachment or even > isolation, but I do realise that I have undergone a great change within > myself . I "feel " a great quietness within me. it is like I am sitting > watching the world go by and am not really a part of it. Things that would > have made me angry or upset just do not affect me any more. I feel as though > everything has slowed down and I am silently watching things going on without > really being a part ot it.Like I am some obserever of things taking place > without it really affecting me.(sometimes I do not even think anything, this > is not like being numb - I am aware but so quiet) ) > Is this normal or is this just a transit time ?? I observe things going on > around me and understand what is going on but do not let it become a part of > me. Who can help??Maybe I have just become aware of my being an observant > person? > > Ingrid > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > taking part in market research studies! > <a href=" http://clickme./ad/surveyspot1 ">Click Here</a> > > ------ > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > Check out our website: > http://www.gtmark.com/ky/index.htm > > Sponsored by Yoga Technology Press > Popular publishers of books on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. > > > To from this list, go to > ONElist Member Center, or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga- > No requests to the list please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 Dear Ingrid, Thank you for sharing your experiences since your spiritual awakening. Wow. That is wonderful to experience that depth of detachement and be able to observe outside ourself without getting involved or sucked into others' dramas. These are two of the most important goals of a spiritual path. They allow you to cultivate your own feelings and presence and really be in touch with yourself and your relationship to universal energies. Enjoy it and begin to experience how this new state makes your body feel. One of the goals is dynamic relaxation--the state of being relaxed and vibrantly alive at the same time. I have added a few comments below. And thank you Susan, for your insightful feedback. Keep us posted of your progress. BTW what healing meditation have you been practicing? Sat Nam, Rattana > I have been thinking on one aspect of the experiences that I have had since > my spiritual awakening and need some feedback.Who can help? Since meditating > and practicing the healing meditation I have often felt completely lonely - > I am not able to understand if this is loneliness or even dettachment or even > isolation, but I do realise that I have undergone a great change within > myself . I "feel " a great quietness within me. it is like I am sitting > watching the world go by and am not really a part of it. Things that would > have made me angry or upset just do not affect me any more. I feel as though > everything has slowed down and I am silently watching things going on without > really being a part ot it.Like I am some obserever of things taking place > without it really affecting me.(sometimes I do not even think anything, this > is not like being numb - I am aware but so quiet) ) This is where we want to be. > Is this normal or is this just a transit time ?? This is what we would like to be normal!! I observe things going on > around me and understand what is going on but do not let it become a part of > me. Who can help?? You are already your own teacher. Congratulations. Maybe I have just become aware of my being an observant person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 In a message dated 9/10/99 11:38:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, IngridTheo writes: << Like I am some obserever of things taking place without it really affecting me.(sometimes I do not even think anything, this is not like being numb - I am aware but so quiet) ) Is this normal or is this just a transit time ?? I observe things going on around me and understand what is going on but do not let it become a part of me. Who can help??Maybe I have just become aware of my being an observant person? >> Dear Ingrid: That is a normal and transitional part of your progress as a person. The "aloneness" feeling is based on finding a place of quiet introspection where the constant clamor, noise and conversations of others are not needed to fill the silence. Inward calm is a very "solitary" sacred and peaceful place, and many react quite nervously and even stressfully at first being confronted with the "silent echoes of their own soul" for the first time. This too, shall pass. What I am sensing is a bit of that "anxiety" floating up, because your mind has not fully accepted the inner quiet...the non-action state of just being. The mind always seeks an activity and that is why in meditation a candle is used as a focus point, or a yantra (geometric drawing) or even the mantra, a repeated spoken chant or comment that engages this "active demanding part of the mind" during the early stages of meditation and particularly for beginning meditators. Later, it will not be needed, and falling quickly and resolutely into a state of "focused non-thought" or energetic meditative activity will be natural and fun...without a sense of anxiety or loneliness. Thanks for sharing your thoughts...and sorry for the long delay in replying, but have been working with a research project from Japan and also doing some plumbing on the ranch property. Blessings Love, Sat Nam! Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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