Guest guest Posted October 5, 1999 Report Share Posted October 5, 1999 In a message dated 10/5/99 8:40:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, qapla writes: << Oh sure, it is simple to just write back and contradict me, what if you Really want to Prove me wrong, wouldn't it be simpler to observe the above dietary restrictions for 49 consecutive days, and then notice the Mental and Emotive changes in stability [if any]? . with palms folded, Darren :-) >> Dear Darren: I have gone on fruit and juice fasts for two months at a time and they are useful cleansing rituals for bodies that are congested with modern industrial by products and meat residue. However, you are dangerously in error to suggest that all people benefit from a pure vegan or even vegetarian diet. Many people, genetically and physiologically are not healthy on such diets and experience a variety of ailments including acute anemia. I am healthiest when I consume small portions of meat, a larger variety of fresh grains, vegetables, fruits and legumes. There is no science that is superior to the laboratory of careful trial and error. Also, of the hundreds of vegetarian friends that I have known, at least half (and I am being conservative) have eventually returned to including at least small portions of meat in their diets in order to remain active and healthy. Yes, some people have metabolisms that can live on grains and vegetables...but others are even allergic to gluten, which is in most grains, except rice. So, be reasonable and stop seeking to "prove" that anything is absolutely "better" or "worse." There are degrees for everything, and each person must discover what is most beneficial for themselves. Animals that are biologically designed to be omnivores are best off following an omnivorous diet. Hey! Guess what? Humans are designed as omnivores! So...a balanced diet should allow a bit of everything. Certainly, one should not eat a meat from an animal that they would be unwilling to take the life of...on moral and spiritual grounds. However, there are many meats and near meats (avocado is a near meat) that can be accepted by most people. I believe that fish is the number one dietary staple in Japan and if I am not mistaken, most of these people are Buddhists. In China, ox and chicken, duck and pheasant are eaten, as well as pork and beef. There are Buddhists in China, too...and most eat some form of meat, in moderation. To squander or waste food, or to kill wantonly is a horrific act of disregard for moral order. But, to damage or destroy a human life is also an act of disregard for moral order. If humans were to disappear tomorrow and leave the earth completely to the existing life forms, there would be hunting, killing and meat and vegetable eating. The animals would not worry about the writings in the Vedas or any other profound human work. And they would be just fine. That is how they evolved. That is their nature and purpose. We are just at the top of that food chain and allowed to pick and choose. To squander or waste, no, but to choose as we need and as we benefit and even enjoy, yes. I attempted for many years to abandon meat eating, but it was injurious to my health. Now, I do the morally responsible thing, and that is I raise my own food. Fruits, vegetables and meats. Therefore, what I eat in the way of meat, either I or my neighbors raise. We exchange or give as seems right. We waste nothing and we keep the usage to a minimum. I take the life of an animal knowing that it is a karmic burden, but a necessary one, and I am inwardly quite troubled and saddened. I am appreciative and loving, and the animals do not suffer. Death in the wild would be worse. Do you know why wolves break the neck of their kill, before tearing at the body? It is not merely to kill. Ripping out the heart or other vulnerable organs could readily incapacitate the victim. It is because, even if the creature still has some life remaining, it does not suffer. The brain has been shut off from the body...it is the more merciful method. I choose to shut off the brain of the animal. Therefore, the least suffering has been caused. I realize that all of this sounds just awful to someone who chooses vegetarian lifestyle. From a distance we can all be pure and pristine. But if we live directly connected to the earth, we find that we become a part of nature and nature allows for the food chain. Man did not create this food chain. It is our heritage, not our design. Can you rise to the level of a person who can accept nature and the creatures therein, loving each and all for their beauty, diversity and courage? Can you love the lamb and the lion? The deer and the panther? The Hawk and the field mouse? I can, and it makes all the difference in the world. It also allows me to love people with less judgment, and that is, all in all, a very good thing. The more we restrict our likes and increase our dislikes, the faster we arrive at a place of narrow intolerance. Intolerant people are the only people I cannot tolerate. Blessings Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 1999 Report Share Posted October 5, 1999 Perhaps the profound dietary impact on one's mental and emotional states, are why both the Vaishnavas and Lord Buddha seem to consider the same food to be forbidden: 1 Meat 2 Fish 3 Fowl 4 Eggs 5 Garlic 6 Ginger 7 Onions 8 Shallots 9 and Leeks. .. In fact some even include fruit and honey on this list, as they feel the concentration of simple sugars to be disruptive to Some phyisiologies. .. Here is an interesting correlation. First compile a list of the cultures that have the rap of being "Hot Blooded". Now contrast their typical diet [and the ingredients thereof] with the above list. .. Food for thought, [forgive the pun] .. Oh sure, it is simple to just write back and contradict me, what if you Really want to Prove me wrong, wouldn't it be simpler to observe the above dietary restrictions for 49 consecutive days, and then notice the Mental and Emotive changes in stability [if any]? .. with palms folded, Darren :-) .. ZEN2WRK wrote: > ZEN2WRK > > In a message dated 10/1/99 4:53:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Aruftu > writes: > > << The relationship between this wisdom (the panoply of Indian Spiritual > Masters > & traditions) and how little effect it has had on the Indian people, gives > one pause. > > Div. > >> > Perhaps it expresses the nature of humanity. We shun coercion and rarely > admire that which is familiar. Having Gurus preaching endlessly for 10,000 > years and having them grow up as your next door neighbor, etc., might account > for the lack of progress. > > I vote that it is the curry, however. This spicy mixture has been linked to > several abnormal thinking patterns and to a form of vegetative disorder in > laboratory mice... > > Blessings > Sat Nam! > Zenbob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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