Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Adam: regarding the experiences of being the observer and the carrier of the experience i would like to recomend a book about babaji and kriyayoga, it's very self explanatory about all the fenomena and the awakening of the kundalini. Also in the Munduka Upanishad you'll find a lot about the observer and the experiencer. eduardo __________________________ Separador de respuesta ______________________________ Asunto: Digest Number 247 Autor: "Kundaliniyoga " [sMTP:Kundaliniyoga ] en COPA-HDQ Fecha: 06/12/99 7:55 AM There are 3 messages in this issue. Topics in today's digest: 1. how to stop "Adam Hoyt" <walkwiththought 2. Re: ~~~ Chakara Opening Experience ~~~ "Rattana Khalsa" <rattanak 3. Re: ~~~ Chakara Opening Experience ~~~ "Mercedes Alexis Vincent" <mistressmercedes __________________________ ___ __________________________ ___ Message: 1 Sun, 05 Dec 1999 21:53:05 GMT "Adam Hoyt" <walkwiththought how to stop I have a question for the ng. I have been meditating for some time now. Just recently, I have had some new experiences, and would like to share them with you. I have been using localized attention to certain areas of my body along with counting. After which (about 54 to 81 breaths), I leave my mind alone. Everything at this point is rather confusing. I have a feeling that I am observing myself, but I am aware that I am observing myself. Once I become of the second awareness, I realize that I have been unaware of what was going on and this brings the whole thing to a halt. During this time, I have the most wonderful experience. Something that is hard to even put words to. Can anyone tell me how to NOT realize that I am aware of this awareness? It would be much appreciated. Secondly, if this is the experience that one is trying to achieve, it is infinitely pleasureable. And if this is in fact the case, then isn't this what Patanjali said to avoid. The whole pleasure / pain cycle. Brightest Blessings, Adam Hoyt __________________________ ___ __________________________ ___ Message: 2 Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:24:50 -0800 "Rattana Khalsa" <rattanak Re: ~~~ Chakara Opening Experience ~~~ Dear David, Thank you for sharing your beautiful experience. I have been waiting for someone else to respond. There are so many ways that the chakras can open up and the Kundalini can awaken. Sounds like yours is unique to this list at least. I would be interested in what you experienced a week or so after this experience. How has your consciousness, thoughts or reactions changed? Thanks again for sharing. Sat Nam, RAttana - David Lindley Painter <david.painter <Kundaliniyoga > Wednesday, November 10, 1999 6:56 AM > I believe that one of my Chakaras > opened this morning at 3AM for the > fist time that I am aware of, and > I would like to get some feedback > from those of you on the list with > similar experiences to speak of. > > My evening Meditation was from > 11PM to 12AM late on Tuesday nite, > and I really never went to sleep. > I was in a semi-awake state until > about 3am this morning when I saw > a ~brilliant~ swirl of circular > energy that I can only discribe > as Awesome and Breathtaking. > > The light traveled in a clearly > delineated circular spiral with > a small bright perfectly round > circle at the very center. The > image moved distinctly clockwise, > and reminded me much of a Tornado. > > I don't know which chakara this > was, or even if it was a chakara > at all, but my guess is that this > was Anahata the heart Chakara. . . > > There was no Yantra, and no Audition. . . > > I am much interested in hearing > of those with similar experiences. > > Peace and Love. > > -DL Painter __________________________ ___ __________________________ ___ Message: 3 Sun, 05 Dec 1999 19:22:53 -0500 "Mercedes Alexis Vincent" <mistressmercedes Re: ~~~ Chakara Opening Experience ~~~ Hello all, I have been lurking for a few weeks, and wished to share an experience that I call life altering. I have been aware of many gifts: empathy, telepathic communication and trance qualities since a very early age. They were just things I learned to live with, and until the last 6 months or so, I never made any conscious move to try to understand or use these gifts. I recently was undergoing a full body massage with a friend who is near and dear, and who is a respected massage therapist of some reknown. The massage lasted about 45 minutes, and as I trance very easily, I soon found myself deeply at ease, and breathing quietly, in a meditative state. As he began to finish his work on my neck, there was an odd shift in the "workings" of the room. I next felt his hands, although not touching me, to the front and back of me - hovering over my solar plexus. The experience that followed was magnificent, and I found that the energy coursing through me was full throttle and yet, under my control. This energy exchange between us lasted about 15 minutes, and as he moved his hands up my body, and hovered over my forehead, the third eye opened and shone, with such a light that I can still remember the colour in the room. After I had recovered from the experience, and later in the evening, my friend described that he had seen and felt an energy like a spring, coiling and uncoiling from my solar plexus, and forcing his hands from contact with my skin. He has been doing and receiving energy work for some years, and he had no knowledge of the fact that I was beginning to work on my own chakras and the energy they generate. He said it was a paricularly exciting and challenging opportunity for him. Needless to say - although home locales separate us by a few hundred miles - we are planning to meet again, and see what else we can explore, with a view to both of us gaining new insight into this very spiritual and enlightening experience. Now, I walk in the full knowledge that I can indeed, with practice and meditation, allow this energy to expand and teach me. Any others with similar experiences, please do not hesitate to contact me; I would be pleased to hear of other such experiences. --- Mercedes A. Vincent On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:24:50 Rattana Khalsa wrote: >"Rattana Khalsa" <rattanak > >Dear David, > >Thank you for sharing your beautiful experience. I have been waiting for >someone else to respond. There are so many ways that the chakras can open >up and the Kundalini can awaken. Sounds like yours is unique to this list >at least. > >I would be interested in what you experienced a week or so after this >experience. How has your consciousness, thoughts or reactions changed? > >Thanks again for sharing. > >Sat Nam, > >RAttana > >- >David Lindley Painter <david.painter ><Kundaliniyoga > >Wednesday, November 10, 1999 6:56 AM > >> I believe that one of my Chakaras >> opened this morning at 3AM for the >> fist time that I am aware of, and >> I would like to get some feedback >> from those of you on the list with >> similar experiences to speak of. >> >> My evening Meditation was from >> 11PM to 12AM late on Tuesday nite, >> and I really never went to sleep. >> I was in a semi-awake state until >> about 3am this morning when I saw >> a ~brilliant~ swirl of circular >> energy that I can only discribe >> as Awesome and Breathtaking. >> >> The light traveled in a clearly >> delineated circular spiral with >> a small bright perfectly round >> circle at the very center. The >> image moved distinctly clockwise, >> and reminded me much of a Tornado. >> >> I don't know which chakara this >> was, or even if it was a chakara >> at all, but my guess is that this >> was Anahata the heart Chakara. . . >> >> There was no Yantra, and no Audition. . . >> >> I am much interested in hearing >> of those with similar experiences. >> >> Peace and Love. >> >> -DL Painter > >>"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > >Check out our website: >kundalini yoga > >Sponsored by Yoga Technology Press >Popular publishers of books on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. > > >To from this list, go to >ONElist Member Center, or send mail to >Kundaliniyoga- >No requests to the list please! > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at lycos.com __________________________ ___ __________________________ ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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