GOD + Honor Thyself

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In a message dated 1/1/00 4:06:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rattanak writes:

 

<< Yogi Bhajan says the biggest problem re God is that we are taught that God

is outside ourselves. We can't get it until we turn our attention to the

experience of ourselves. We each are a unique expression of God.

>>

 

You may not like me for this, but God is OUTSIDE of us. The innate history

of man proves this. We always look outside of ourselves for something divine

to believe in...and...that is fine and good and right.

 

Now, a thing we are agreement in...we are ALL a part of God. God lives

within us all, but to say we are God...is...well...stupid. You may be a

Guru...you may be a Master/Mistress...but in Zen, if all the student comes to

learn and understand as reality...is what the teacher teaches...then the

teacher has failed. Teachers/Gurus/Masters/Mistresses are not allowed ego.

Ego is the failure of man. The wish to be known for what we know, is self

serving.

 

There is no place for this in yoga, or life in general.

 

Marsha

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Dear Nancy and Everyone,

 

Thank your for the beautiful letter.

 

Yogi Bhajan says the biggest problem re God is that we are taught that God

is outside ourselves. We can't get it until we turn our attention to the

experience of ourselves. We each are a unique expression of God.

 

> Christianity likes us to believe that the Father, the Pope, your priest,

> your minister, God, confession, and all the other symbols, will save me as

I

> do little but have blind faith and believe that in the end, I will be

> saved. This belief makes God a separate entity in the universe, having

> divine control, and making all the decisions as s/he sees fit for me.

This

> is taking an inactive back seat to faith that never felt right to me.

 

This is a belief, not an experience. The age of Aquarius is about

experience. The age of Pices was about belief. We are making the transition

now. We can see this even in this discussion.

 

> My teacher taught her class, and was also instructed by her teacher (Yogi

Bhajan )

 

, that for those with trouble believing in God to think of it in this way: G

is for

> the generation of life and beginnings, O is for placing life in order, and

D

> is to destroy past negative patterns, making us ready for the next

> generation all over again. Isn't that the cycle with KY, generate new

> thoughts, place them in order, and destroy old outmoded ways?

 

I also like to think of the D as delivery. We can use the G and the O

energy either to destroy what is no longer relevant or to deliver results.

 

There are many ways to experience God. One way is to "Honor Thyself." for

we each embody the Divine and are very special beings. When we honor

ourselves we discover what we came here to deliver.

 

My New Millennium prayer for each of you is that you truly honor yourself

this year, get in touch with your unique gifts and use G O D to make your

unique contribution to the world.

 

Sat Nam,

 

RAttana

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Hello,

 

I must respond. This is good. A lively and thought provoking discussion.

 

"It is true that we are ALL are part of God," Marsha26 wrote in a post.

With this I agree, but more must be added.

 

I am sure that this or things similiar to this have been written, stated,

said, or otherwise used, but I like the analogy.

 

Take water to be all of creation; plants, animals(humans included), rocks,

trees, birds, everything. Add God, in whatever form (or nonform) that you

wish, as salt. Blend together (shaken, not stirred) and now you have salt

water, a completely homogenous substance of the two aforementioned

ingredients.

 

Now, bear with me; who can, God or creation, separate the one (assuming

complete dissolving takes place) from the other. You can't. Now completing

the analogy, neither can you separate God from creation, or creation from

God. They are one and the same. As perfect from inside, to perfect from

outside.

 

So, yes, God is outside us, but God is also inside us, because God is us.

To realize this, with understanding, is a wonderful thing.

 

But, be cautious; "he who says, 'I know the Self", does in fact not know.

Go back and continue meditating."

 

No teacher has failed who has created compassion and gotten a student to

look inwardly. It is then up to the student to discern what they find

there. If it is the answer they have been looking for, then great. If not,

and they keep on looking, two things are true; one, the teacher is indeed a

teacher, for they have created within the student a quest for knowledge, and

two the student has become their own teacher as well, for they have able to

discern what is true for themselves. Viveka.

 

This is a fantastic group. I hope everyone enjoyed their New Year/New

Millineum celebrations.

 

Brightest Blessings,

 

Adam

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Dear Adam,

 

Thank you so much for that quote.

 

Sat Nam,

 

RAttana

 

 

> No teacher has failed who has created compassion and gotten a student to

> look inwardly. It is then up to the student to discern what they find

> there. If it is the answer they have been looking for, then great. If

not,

> and they keep on looking, two things are true; one, the teacher is indeed

a

> teacher, for they have created within the student a quest for knowledge,

and

> two the student has become their own teacher as well, for they have able

to

> discern what is true for themselves. Viveka.