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Hi all,

 

I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks now and thought I'd make an

introduction. My name is Michael, I'm 20 and stay in Cape Town, South

Africa.

 

I've been practicing Hatha/Kundalini yoga for almost 3 years now, and it is

a large (if not all encompassing) facet of my life. I started my practice in

my last year of high school using a book ('Yoga for you' - Indra Devi) I

found in the school library. From day 1 I've been pretty dedicated to my

practice, however, doing it all myself without guidance, and a fairly

impatient, restless mind, I've made a few errors along the way.

 

I joined the list, because recently, having notched up my practice and

dedication to the yoga philosophy, my interests have become almost entirely

focussed on transcendental matters. Even before I started practicing yoga, I

was aware (intellectually) of Kundalini. It started as an interest related

to my use of certain 'inspirational' substances, and has remained deeply

ingrained in my mind ever since.

 

I know many practitioners discourage or are even repulsed by the use of

substances in a spiritualistic sense (or any sense for the matter). However

from personal experience I have found the use of certain psychedelic

substances to be in many ways beneficial, as long as they are handled with a

respectful intent. I'm aware that this opinion is only shared by a minute

minority, but I'm interested to hear any opinions any of you may have on the

subject. For those who are even slightly interested in this train of

thought the article psychedelic yoga

(http://www.luminist.org/Archives/psychedelic.htm) may be of interest.

 

Another issue I'd like to hear opinions on is my use of a certain

'customized' pranayama. I found while performing Hastapadasana, that if I

inhaled to my full capacity while rising and held it, an enormous

overwhelming 'surge' would rocket through my body, causing tremors, flooding

my vision with a milky glow, and leaving me feeling light and invigorated. I

wasn't sure if I was experiencing an ordinary, although very intense

headrush, due to lack of oxygen or something else. I practiced this

infrequently, not wanting to cause any physical damage as there was a fair

amount of 'pain' (more like pure intensity) when doing it. I started doing

tai chi a few months ago and tried filling my lungs in the same way but

while standing in the traditional tai chi stance (toes slightly inward,

knees bent, spine erect with my weight resting on the tan tien/manipura). I

found that if I rouse while inhaling a full yogic breathe and then sank back

down while restraining, concentrating the pressure around my solar plexus,

the surge was almost as powerful but much more 'controlled'. I'd like to

know whether those of you experienced in pranayama consider such a technique

to be potentially damaging or not?

 

I look forward to my stay on the list.

:-)PLUR(-:

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Hi Michael,

I can understand why you may still find use of substances to be a temptation

but as you really focus

on your objective, it will fall away. I guess the question at this time is what

is the objective? If the

objective is to experience light shows, etc...then you may stay with your

practice as is. If your

objective is to be self realized then all of this changes. Clarity and

interior knowing comes from

silence and stillness, this isn't something which is acquired with stimulation.

This is up to you to find

out. Either way, it is not right or wrong but something you need to identify

within yourself. Gloria

 

 

 

Skylined wrote:

 

> "Skylined" <mdunn

>

> Hi all,

>

> I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks now and thought I'd make an

> introduction. My name is Michael, I'm 20 and stay in Cape Town, South

> Africa.

>

> I've been practicing Hatha/Kundalini yoga for almost 3 years now, and it is

> a large (if not all encompassing) facet of my life. I started my practice in

> my last year of high school using a book ('Yoga for you' - Indra Devi) I

> found in the school library. From day 1 I've been pretty dedicated to my

> practice, however, doing it all myself without guidance, and a fairly

> impatient, restless mind, I've made a few errors along the way.

>

> I joined the list, because recently, having notched up my practice and

> dedication to the yoga philosophy, my interests have become almost entirely

> focussed on transcendental matters. Even before I started practicing yoga, I

> was aware (intellectually) of Kundalini. It started as an interest related

> to my use of certain 'inspirational' substances, and has remained deeply

> ingrained in my mind ever since.

>

> I know many practitioners discourage or are even repulsed by the use of

> substances in a spiritualistic sense (or any sense for the matter). However

> from personal experience I have found the use of certain psychedelic

> substances to be in many ways beneficial, as long as they are handled with a

> respectful intent. I'm aware that this opinion is only shared by a minute

> minority, but I'm interested to hear any opinions any of you may have on the

> subject. For those who are even slightly interested in this train of

> thought the article psychedelic yoga

> (http://www.luminist.org/Archives/psychedelic.htm) may be of interest.

>

> Another issue I'd like to hear opinions on is my use of a certain

> 'customized' pranayama. I found while performing Hastapadasana, that if I

> inhaled to my full capacity while rising and held it, an enormous

> overwhelming 'surge' would rocket through my body, causing tremors, flooding

> my vision with a milky glow, and leaving me feeling light and invigorated. I

> wasn't sure if I was experiencing an ordinary, although very intense

> headrush, due to lack of oxygen or something else. I practiced this

> infrequently, not wanting to cause any physical damage as there was a fair

> amount of 'pain' (more like pure intensity) when doing it. I started doing

> tai chi a few months ago and tried filling my lungs in the same way but

> while standing in the traditional tai chi stance (toes slightly inward,

> knees bent, spine erect with my weight resting on the tan tien/manipura). I

> found that if I rouse while inhaling a full yogic breathe and then sank back

> down while restraining, concentrating the pressure around my solar plexus,

> the surge was almost as powerful but much more 'controlled'. I'd like to

> know whether those of you experienced in pranayama consider such a technique

> to be potentially damaging or not?

>

> I look forward to my stay on the list.

> :-)PLUR(-:

>

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