Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 Yogi Bhajan says : " If you cannot see God in all, you cannot see God at all". I have a hard time with this. I try to see God in everyone and it is easy with the good of this world. What about the evil in the world and the people who choose to follow this Path? How am I able to see God in these people? I am trying to be more spiritual in all aspects of my life but am judgemental about certain aspect and people. Does anyone have any thoughts about this or know what Yogi Bhajan says about it? How do I become less Jugemental and love everyone? Sat Nam Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 Brian,welcome.... There is God in everyine,even the people who don't realize there is more out there. It's people's own fault we have war and poverty,because thy wanted it. Actions give reactions.When you think of something,it's bound to happen.Everything is power,light,different shades of light are the vibrations,red has the lowest vibrations,purple the highest. If you consider this,looking from within youreslf,you'll know that it's all a part of you,the wars,the poverty,everything.It's their will.They're still evolving. Hope that answers your question,or gives it a bit of clarity. Sebastiaan >"brian kilton" <bkilton >Kundaliniyoga >"onelist" <Kundaliniyoga (AT) ONElist (DOT) com> > God In all >Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:37:04 -0600 > >"brian kilton" <bkilton > >Yogi Bhajan says : " If you cannot see God in all, you cannot see God at >all". >I have a hard time with this. I try to see God in everyone and it is easy >with the good of this world. What about the evil in the world and the >people who choose to follow this Path? How am I able to see God in these >people? I am trying to be more spiritual in all aspects of my life but am >judgemental about certain aspect and people. Does anyone have any >thoughts >about this or know what Yogi Bhajan says about it? How do I become less >Jugemental and love everyone? >Sat Nam >Brian > > >------ >GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% >Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! >http://click./1/936/1/_/505222/_/952958496/ >------ > >"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the ONElist Member Center (My >ONElist), or send mail to >Kundaliniyoga- >NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! >WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > >KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from >kundalini yogaclasses.html > >Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Popular publishers since 1988 of books on >Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. > > ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 Dear Brian, IMHO, this is part of the essence of yoga and to miss this mark just puts you in the same boat as most of the world's population, including myself. I would like to share part of the monologue we are given after every class by Swami Bua: " ...you are not this body, you are not this mind, you are not this intellect, you are not this ego. You are something supreme, you are something divine..." So, if we are not these things, we can not be the actions performed by these things which are not our true self. Again, IMHO since yoga is an experience based philosophy and not one based on faith, if you have not realized this in yourself, you can experience others this way. If I am off base here, someone please let me know. May God Bless You, Gary brian kilton wrote: > "brian kilton" <bkilton > > Yogi Bhajan says : " If you cannot see God in all, you cannot see God at > all". > I have a hard time with this. I try to see God in everyone and it is easy > with the good of this world. What about the evil in the world and the > people who choose to follow this Path? How am I able to see God in these > people? I am trying to be more spiritual in all aspects of my life but am > judgemental about certain aspect and people. Does anyone have any thoughts > about this or know what Yogi Bhajan says about it? How do I become less > Jugemental and love everyone? > Sat Nam > Brian > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 Hi Adam, To answer your last question first, I appreciate your input. Adam Hoyt wrote: > "Adam Hoyt" <walkwiththought > > Hello, > > I read this post today. I responded to this thread earlier this week, and > there is only one comment that I have to make mention of. This sentence: > > "So, if we are not these things, we can not be the actions performed by > these things which are not our > true self." > > Taken in the context that Gary mentioned, stating that we are not the body, > mind, ego, etc., but are in fact something supreme; I believe this to be > true. However, I would like to add something to the sentence above which > without could be misconstrued in a wrong direction. > > First, each person is God, and realization of this fact brings about the > first inclings (sp?) of liberation. However, with this knowledge and this > fact, comes a tremendous responsibility. Once one realizes that they are > God, some can become ego-inflated and begin to believe that they are not > accountable to anyone or anything. This could not be farther from the > truth. Swami says we are to God as cup of the ocean is to the ocean. The liquid in the cup is made up of the ocean, but it is not the ocean. So, we are made up of the divine, but we are not the entity ( for lack of a better word ) God. > With this knowledge, you become accountable to each and every other > sentient and insentient being in the universe. Since you know that you are > God (and everything and everyone else, at the same time) you are responsible > to ensure the safety, well-being, care, love, and maturation of all things. > Quite a responsibility. To neglect these duties would be nothing less than > fool hardy; karma catches everyone. . . always. Once these are realized AND > accepted, then the continuation of liberation will procede. This is what > prevents harm and wrong doing. The more people who become realized, the > less evil and destruction pervades the universe, the more love and peace > fills all space. > > I also have a question about the next sentence in your post. What do you > mean when you say "yoga is an experience based philosophy and not one based > on faith". I agree that it is not based on faith, but on experience. I > don't know how you are meaning philosophy in this context. By philosophy, I meant to convey a particular way of thinking. Yoga is a way of thinking which is based on your own personal experience; and , not on your beliefs. > > > I think I must be behind the times, what does IMHO mean? In My Humble Opinion. > > > I hope, Gary, that you are not offended by my additions and questions to > your discourse in your post. > Respectfully, Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2000 Report Share Posted March 14, 2000 Hello, I read this post today. I responded to this thread earlier this week, and there is only one comment that I have to make mention of. This sentence: "So, if we are not these things, we can not be the actions performed by these things which are not our true self." Taken in the context that Gary mentioned, stating that we are not the body, mind, ego, etc., but are in fact something supreme; I believe this to be true. However, I would like to add something to the sentence above which without could be misconstrued in a wrong direction. First, each person is God, and realization of this fact brings about the first inclings (sp?) of liberation. However, with this knowledge and this fact, comes a tremendous responsibility. Once one realizes that they are God, some can become ego-inflated and begin to believe that they are not accountable to anyone or anything. This could not be farther from the truth. With this knowledge, you become accountable to each and every other sentient and insentient being in the universe. Since you know that you are God (and everything and everyone else, at the same time) you are responsible to ensure the safety, well-being, care, love, and maturation of all things. Quite a responsibility. To neglect these duties would be nothing less than fool hardy; karma catches everyone. . . always. Once these are realized AND accepted, then the continuation of liberation will procede. This is what prevents harm and wrong doing. The more people who become realized, the less evil and destruction pervades the universe, the more love and peace fills all space. I also have a question about the next sentence in your post. What do you mean when you say "yoga is an experience based philosophy and not one based on faith". I agree that it is not based on faith, but on experience. I don't know how you are meaning philosophy in this context. I think I must be behind the times, what does IMHO mean? I hope, Gary, that you are not offended by my additions and questions to your discourse in your post. Smile, Adam ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2000 Report Share Posted March 14, 2000 ....you are not this body, you are not this mind, you are not this intellect, you are not this ego. You are something supreme, you are something divine..." Gary Giamboi wrote: This is very true, we are more then a body, mind, intellect, until the last analysis when we lift this up and become it as well. The body is a vehicle to learn through therefore we learn to detach and observe it so that in this experience we can separate from the body and see yes, this is true. That laying on that bed is the body I use and it is certainly not me since I am consciousness observing it. In this realization one realizes that indeed that which I am is supreme and beyond anything of matter as such. This is an important step into the realization of soul consciousness. The first time you can look at your body on the bed or operating table...however the release is experienced becomes a very important realization of soul awareness. I remember watching a surgery from the ceiling of the operating room while listening to the doctors talk about motorcycle racing. In another experience shortly after this I was laying on a couch with my face turned toward the back of the couch. My two small children were playing with the knobs on an oil stove. I was talking to them and telling them not to touch the stove, they were not listening. Then I looked on the couch and I noticed my body was on the couch. I went oh no. So I went over to it and tried to step into it like you might think of doing from a mental standpoint. Again we are not mind or intellect either...I couldn't figure out how to get into this body and try as I might to get the angle I was laying no thought or effort would help me to step back into that body. The telephone rang and I was in. It was not a physical telephone that rang but a spiritual sound that put me back in. So again...the mind and intellect could not deal with this experience or control it. It took soul consciousness to reconnect me up so that the body was once more useable. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 How do I become less >Jugemental and love everyone? >Sat Nam >Brian Dearest Brian, I feel that we are all ,in our true nature, as souls loving and pure....it is our physical nature that goes through situations/challenges/and difficult life paths.... We are all in essence the same,All is One..... we are all connected,sometimes we think of things from a bodily/ego angle and we judge others who we see as bad, but we fail to see our own contribution to a harsh and judgemental society... Every person that you see has the same god spark as you.... the same pure beginning inside of them..... their soul,their place of peace ,love and connection... but all have their path....All finding their own way home to the light..all choosing different ways....different experiences. It is not ours to judge.God works in all ways...on all levels... I used to judge people harshly, but then i realised that judging was not adding any love or light ,to a person who may be feeling very unloved and in the darkness..... Love and compassion and seeing God in all, that is maybe a chance to share the light within you. To share the love you have in you... Lots of love to you Natalie... ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 I feel we all are godly souls in human bodies.... We are all godly souls... We are not a body with a soul... we are a soul with a body.... Love Natalie >"brian kilton" <bkilton >Kundaliniyoga >"onelist" <Kundaliniyoga (AT) ONElist (DOT) com> > God In all >Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:37:04 -0600 > >"brian kilton" <bkilton > >Yogi Bhajan says : " If you cannot see God in all, you cannot see God at >all". >I have a hard time with this. I try to see God in everyone and it is easy >with the good of this world. What about the evil in the world and the >people who choose to follow this Path? How am I able to see God in these >people? I am trying to be more spiritual in all aspects of my life but am >judgemental about certain aspect and people. Does anyone have any >thoughts >about this or know what Yogi Bhajan says about it? How do I become less >Jugemental and love everyone? >Sat Nam >Brian > > >------ >GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% >Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! >http://click./1/936/1/_/505222/_/952958496/ >------ > >"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the ONElist Member Center (My >ONElist), or send mail to >Kundaliniyoga- >NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! >WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > >KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from >kundalini yogaclasses.html > >Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Popular publishers since 1988 of books on >Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. > > ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2000 Report Share Posted March 20, 2000 Brian, IMHO, Good lives in us all and is our propensity to be "right and moral." Evil also lives in us all and is our choice to follow it too. The choices we make and the path we choose is the difference between both. We become better judges of character when we can see the difference in ourselves and in others. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2000 Report Share Posted March 20, 2000 Adam, you hit everything right on the dot, god does live inside all of us and it is each individuals choice to choose right (god) or wrong (devil/evil.) IMHO means in my humble opinion Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2000 Report Share Posted March 20, 2000 Sat Nam, Please, what does IMHO mean? Thanks, Neuda >IMHO, ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2000 Report Share Posted March 21, 2000 In my Humble Opinion Sat Nam Brian > >Please, what does IMHO mean? >Thanks, >Neuda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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