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There are 5 messages in this issue.

 

Topics in this digest:

 

1. Re: Positive Thinking

Chrissi61266

2. Re: Epilepsy

Chrissi61266

3. Re: TMJ or jaw exercises

Chrissi61266

4. Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma

lv2breathe

5. Re: Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma

LadyOStars

 

 

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Message: 1

Sat, 13 May 2000 11:04:51 EDT

Chrissi61266

Re: Positive Thinking

 

Judy,

Hello. The drunken monkey is that voice that gives you the

excuse not to

do something. Ex. you are on a diet and you see a piece of cake

that you

want, you know you are dieting and shouldnt have it, but the

drunken monkey

comes out and gives you all the reasons you should have that

cake. He tells

you what you think you want to hear to keep you from doing what

is really

important to you. He is the excuse. So you eat the cake, and

the candy too

all the while proclaiming to be on a diet when in all actuality

you are not.

He makes the tough jobs "easy". The drunken monkey will gladly

give us all

the reasons why eating just one piece of cake doesnt really matter.

He serves

as denial, justification, rationalizations, and stories to explain

why we

didnt get what we wanted. With these reasons, we avoid something

in

ourselves, something we are afraid of. I think the key is to

listen to your

"gut" that is your guidance system, and to let feelings flow

instead of

stifling them. The more you stifle the more you stagnate, the

more you

stagnate the less you get done, the less you get done the worse

you feel, the

worse you feel, ect....ect.......I hope this helps. Also remembering

there

are no mistakes only lessons helps.

 

love and light,

chrissy

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 2

Sat, 13 May 2000 11:22:28 EDT

Chrissi61266

Re: Epilepsy

 

Have you ever tried going to a Reiki Practitioner? i would imagine

that there

are some blockages or stagnation in the third eye chakra as well

as the crown

chakra. The crown chakra governs the balancing of the left and

right

hemispheres, inner ear equilibrium, eye stem problems, seizures,

pineal,

pituitary, hypothalamus, limbic system of the brain, headache,

endorphin/pain

release, and shock. The mental/ emotional aspect of the crown

chakra work

with depression, anxiety, mood swings, memory, calmness, creativity

and

balancing mental emotional problems. I would be happy to do some

distant

healing on you with your permission. All I need is your full

name. We can set

a time so that you are aware of the healing or I can do a healing

without

your awareness. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

 

love and light,

chrissy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 3

Sat, 13 May 2000 11:32:48 EDT

Chrissi61266

Re: TMJ or jaw exercises

 

on the subject of tmj i would have to also ask what are you not

saying that

you need to? what are you holding back? are you communicating

what you need

to be? are you speaking the absolute truth? the mental emotional

aspects of

the third chakra are, control by tone of voice and words we speak,

 

codependency recovery because of power/control issues, anger

and rage,

self-confidence, anxiety, stage fright,stabilizing and communication.

i too

have had tmj and found that i was afraid to say certain things

due to not

wanting to hurt others feelings in the process my jaw was the

one suffering.

remember that there is no disease only dis-ease, which means

you are not on

track with who you truly are. pain is for a reason it is because

you have

been denying something in yourself for so long. you have overlooked

the

messages so the pain comes to make you do something about it.

tmj can be very

painful, but it is a blessing for you. acknowledge what this

means for you.

learn the lesson and be well.

 

love and light,

chrissy

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 4

Sat, 13 May 2000 17:56:08 EDT

lv2breathe

Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma

 

 

Hi!

 

About the sheepskins. In yesterday's post, someone said

the following:

"we are not involved in the killing (of the sheep)", "(the

sheep) LIKE

their skins to used in meditation" and "they(the sheep) are not

killed for

their skins".

 

I respectfully disagree with all of the above. If you

like using

sheepskins and don't care about the animal who once owned them,

fine, admit

it and go on. But let's not be dishonest about the issue.

 

It is not true that we are not involved in the killing

of the sheep

when we use their skins. Yes, we are not DIRECTLY killing them,

but we are

using the products that came from their death, and we are SUPPORTING

the

killing by giving others money to do the dirty work. This is

a form of

indirect killing and when you use these products you have some

of the karma

because you are part of the process.

 

Sheep LIKE their skins to be used for meditation? Have

you asked a

sheep? As far as I know animals are sentient creatures who value

their lives

(and skins) and will fight for their them. They also avoid pain

and

suffering. I haven't as yet seen animals gladly lay down their

lives so we

can have a comfy rug (that we don't absolutely need for good

meditations).

Please! There is no reason to have to have a sheepskin or to

use the bodily

parts of any other animal to have good Kundalini sessions or

meditations!

And let's stop assuming animals are just DYING to serve our every

whim and

want just so we can feel better about exploiting them.

 

Yes, it's probably true that the sheep were not killed

ONLY for their

skins, but PART of the reason they were killed is because of

the skins. Just

like in the meat industry, leather is a large componet of the

profits,

without which the industry would suffer. When you are purchasing

any animal

product like skins, you ARE supporting the ranchers, the factory

farms and

slaughterhouses. You are supporting all of the componets of

and that lead up

to the killing. You become a part of it! I am sorry, it's

not honest to

say you don't have a part in the killing when you use "just

the skins". The

karma of their suffering will be with you then, too.

 

From what I have learned from other Masters is that a

part of any true

spiritual path, is that you are compassionate to ALL beings.

It doesn't mean

that animals become more than humans or even that they have the

same worth.

You just recognize that you don't want to contribute to the suffering

of the

world (whether animal or human) anymore. By keeping a vegetarian

diet and

refraining from buying animal products (especially unnessary

ones) you

improving collective and personal karma.

 

 

 

Kristina

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 5

Sun, 14 May 2000 02:08:03 EDT

LadyOStars

Re: Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma

 

Kristina....

 

i maybe wrong... but i understood Gururattan Kaur's post differently...

(i think it is her post you are refering to)

 

when she wrote "they are not killed for their skins" i understood

it to mean

that they are not farmed for that purpose... meaning no one kills

them

but their skin is put to use when they die...

 

its sort of like when native american's sell animal parts such

as antlers and

such

they are called "shed" antlers meaning that the animal was not

killed for

the product... but the antler was either shed or they were harvested

from

the animal without harming... or found upon death...

 

that is not to say that there are no industries out there that

do kill animals

for the purpose of obtaining their skins... but i understood

that perhaps

there are "kind" supplier out there that dont kill animals but

obtain the

skins

after natural death... especially for those cultures or philosophies

that

follow "harm none including animals..."

 

but i could have misunderstood it too....

just my thoughts

 

Sat Nam

Akire

 

 

___________To

all that responded to my call to help for my recent lost relationship,

I thank you. I have been in contact with him recently and he

is doing very well and in fact recently crossed over and is a

Shamin now. He seems so at peace and was able to remind me that

his love for me is still in his heart and that we will always

be friends. I too will always love him and have found peace in

where we are today. I miss him very much altho I am aware that

in this life there are no accidents and we were in each others

lives for a reason. I am continuing to heal and even with having

some difficulties with my meditation I will continue on,and call

upon the God force within me to pursue each moment and ask for

daily guidence.

Sat Nam,

Suzanne ___________

______________________

 

 

 

 

 

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recording studio software. FREE software download!

http://click./1/3734/3/_/505222/_/958297793/

------

 

"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

- Yogi Bhajan

 

You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the ONElist Member Center

(My ONElist), or send mail to

Kundaliniyoga-

NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

 

KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

kundalini yogaclasses.html

 

Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Popular publishers since 1988

of books on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation.

 

------

 

There are 5 messages in this issue.

 

Topics in this digest:

 

1. Re: Positive Thinking

Chrissi61266

2. Re: Epilepsy

Chrissi61266

3. Re: TMJ or jaw exercises

Chrissi61266

4. Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma

lv2breathe

5. Re: Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma

LadyOStars

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 1

Sat, 13 May 2000 11:04:51 EDT

Chrissi61266

Re: Positive Thinking

 

Judy,

Hello. The drunken monkey is that voice that gives you the

excuse not to

do something. Ex. you are on a diet and you see a piece of cake

that you

want, you know you are dieting and shouldnt have it, but the

drunken monkey

comes out and gives you all the reasons you should have that

cake. He tells

you what you think you want to hear to keep you from doing what

is really

important to you. He is the excuse. So you eat the cake, and

the candy too

all the while proclaiming to be on a diet when in all actuality

you are not.

He makes the tough jobs "easy". The drunken monkey will gladly

give us all

the reasons why eating just one piece of cake doesnt really matter.

He serves

as denial, justification, rationalizations, and stories to explain

why we

didnt get what we wanted. With these reasons, we avoid something

in

ourselves, something we are afraid of. I think the key is to

listen to your

"gut" that is your guidance system, and to let feelings flow

instead of

stifling them. The more you stifle the more you stagnate, the

more you

stagnate the less you get done, the less you get done the worse

you feel, the

worse you feel, ect....ect.......I hope this helps. Also remembering

there

are no mistakes only lessons helps.

 

love and light,

chrissy

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 2

Sat, 13 May 2000 11:22:28 EDT

Chrissi61266

Re: Epilepsy

 

Have you ever tried going to a Reiki Practitioner? i would imagine

that there

are some blockages or stagnation in the third eye chakra as well

as the crown

chakra. The crown chakra governs the balancing of the left and

right

hemispheres, inner ear equilibrium, eye stem problems, seizures,

pineal,

pituitary, hypothalamus, limbic system of the brain, headache,

endorphin/pain

release, and shock. The mental/ emotional aspect of the crown

chakra work

with depression, anxiety, mood swings, memory, calmness, creativity

and

balancing mental emotional problems. I would be happy to do some

distant

healing on you with your permission. All I need is your full

name. We can set

a time so that you are aware of the healing or I can do a healing

without

your awareness. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

 

love and light,

chrissy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 3

Sat, 13 May 2000 11:32:48 EDT

Chrissi61266

Re: TMJ or jaw exercises

 

on the subject of tmj i would have to also ask what are you not

saying that

you need to? what are you holding back? are you communicating

what you need

to be? are you speaking the absolute truth? the mental emotional

aspects of

the third chakra are, control by tone of voice and words we speak,

 

codependency recovery because of power/control issues, anger

and rage,

self-confidence, anxiety, stage fright,stabilizing and communication.

i too

have had tmj and found that i was afraid to say certain things

due to not

wanting to hurt others feelings in the process my jaw was the

one suffering.

remember that there is no disease only dis-ease, which means

you are not on

track with who you truly are. pain is for a reason it is because

you have

been denying something in yourself for so long. you have overlooked

the

messages so the pain comes to make you do something about it.

tmj can be very

painful, but it is a blessing for you. acknowledge what this

means for you.

learn the lesson and be well.

 

love and light,

chrissy

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 4

Sat, 13 May 2000 17:56:08 EDT

lv2breathe

Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma

 

 

Hi!

 

About the sheepskins. In yesterday's post, someone said

the following:

"we are not involved in the killing (of the sheep)", "(the

sheep) LIKE

their skins to used in meditation" and "they(the sheep) are not

killed for

their skins".

 

I respectfully disagree with all of the above. If you

like using

sheepskins and don't care about the animal who once owned them,

fine, admit

it and go on. But let's not be dishonest about the issue.

 

It is not true that we are not involved in the killing

of the sheep

when we use their skins. Yes, we are not DIRECTLY killing them,

but we are

using the products that came from their death, and we are SUPPORTING

the

killing by giving others money to do the dirty work. This is

a form of

indirect killing and when you use these products you have some

of the karma

because you are part of the process.

 

Sheep LIKE their skins to be used for meditation? Have

you asked a

sheep? As far as I know animals are sentient creatures who value

their lives

(and skins) and will fight for their them. They also avoid pain

and

suffering. I haven't as yet seen animals gladly lay down their

lives so we

can have a comfy rug (that we don't absolutely need for good

meditations).

Please! There is no reason to have to have a sheepskin or to

use the bodily

parts of any other animal to have good Kundalini sessions or

meditations!

And let's stop assuming animals are just DYING to serve our every

whim and

want just so we can feel better about exploiting them.

 

Yes, it's probably true that the sheep were not killed

ONLY for their

skins, but PART of the reason they were killed is because of

the skins. Just

like in the meat industry, leather is a large componet of the

profits,

without which the industry would suffer. When you are purchasing

any animal

product like skins, you ARE supporting the ranchers, the factory

farms and

slaughterhouses. You are supporting all of the componets of

and that lead up

to the killing. You become a part of it! I am sorry, it's

not honest to

say you don't have a part in the killing when you use "just

the skins". The

karma of their suffering will be with you then, too.

 

From what I have learned from other Masters is that a

part of any true

spiritual path, is that you are compassionate to ALL beings.

It doesn't mean

that animals become more than humans or even that they have the

same worth.

You just recognize that you don't want to contribute to the suffering

of the

world (whether animal or human) anymore. By keeping a vegetarian

diet and

refraining from buying animal products (especially unnessary

ones) you

improving collective and personal karma.

 

 

 

Kristina

 

 

______________________

______________________

 

Message: 5

Sun, 14 May 2000 02:08:03 EDT

LadyOStars

Re: Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma

 

Kristina....

 

i maybe wrong... but i understood Gururattan Kaur's post differently...

(i think it is her post you are refering to)

 

when she wrote "they are not killed for their skins" i understood

it to mean

that they are not farmed for that purpose... meaning no one kills

them

but their skin is put to use when they die...

 

its sort of like when native american's sell animal parts such

as antlers and

such

they are called "shed" antlers meaning that the animal was not

killed for

the product... but the antler was either shed or they were harvested

from

the animal without harming... or found upon death...

 

that is not to say that there are no industries out there that

do kill animals

for the purpose of obtaining their skins... but i understood

that perhaps

there are "kind" supplier out there that dont kill animals but

obtain the

skins

after natural death... especially for those cultures or philosophies

that

follow "harm none including animals..."

 

but i could have misunderstood it too....

just my thoughts

 

Sat Nam

Akire

 

 

___________To

all that responded to my call to help for my recent lost relationship,

I thank you. I have been in contact with him recently and he

is doing very well and in fact recently crossed over and is a

Shamin now. He seems so at peace and was able to remind me that

his love for me is still in his heart and that we will always

be friends. I too will always love him and have found peace in

where we are today. I miss him very much altho I am aware that

in this life there are no accidents and we were in each others

lives for a reason. I am continuing to heal and even with having

some difficulties with my meditation I will continue on,and call

upon the God force within me to pursue each moment and ask for

daily guidence.

Sat Nam,

Suzanne ___________

______________________

 

 

 

 

 

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