Guest guest Posted May 15, 2000 Report Share Posted May 15, 2000 --- Original Message --- Kundaliniyoga Wrote on 14 May 2000 09:49:53 -0000 ------------------ ------ Make music with anyone, anywhere, through FREE Internet recording studio software. FREE software download! http://click./1/3734/3/_/505222/_/958297793/ ------ "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" - Yogi Bhajan You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the ONElist Member Center (My ONElist), or send mail to Kundaliniyoga- NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! WEB SITE: kundalini yoga KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from kundalini yogaclasses.html Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Popular publishers since 1988 of books on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. ------ There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Positive Thinking Chrissi61266 2. Re: Epilepsy Chrissi61266 3. Re: TMJ or jaw exercises Chrissi61266 4. Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma lv2breathe 5. Re: Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma LadyOStars ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Sat, 13 May 2000 11:04:51 EDT Chrissi61266 Re: Positive Thinking Judy, Hello. The drunken monkey is that voice that gives you the excuse not to do something. Ex. you are on a diet and you see a piece of cake that you want, you know you are dieting and shouldnt have it, but the drunken monkey comes out and gives you all the reasons you should have that cake. He tells you what you think you want to hear to keep you from doing what is really important to you. He is the excuse. So you eat the cake, and the candy too all the while proclaiming to be on a diet when in all actuality you are not. He makes the tough jobs "easy". The drunken monkey will gladly give us all the reasons why eating just one piece of cake doesnt really matter. He serves as denial, justification, rationalizations, and stories to explain why we didnt get what we wanted. With these reasons, we avoid something in ourselves, something we are afraid of. I think the key is to listen to your "gut" that is your guidance system, and to let feelings flow instead of stifling them. The more you stifle the more you stagnate, the more you stagnate the less you get done, the less you get done the worse you feel, the worse you feel, ect....ect.......I hope this helps. Also remembering there are no mistakes only lessons helps. love and light, chrissy ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Sat, 13 May 2000 11:22:28 EDT Chrissi61266 Re: Epilepsy Have you ever tried going to a Reiki Practitioner? i would imagine that there are some blockages or stagnation in the third eye chakra as well as the crown chakra. The crown chakra governs the balancing of the left and right hemispheres, inner ear equilibrium, eye stem problems, seizures, pineal, pituitary, hypothalamus, limbic system of the brain, headache, endorphin/pain release, and shock. The mental/ emotional aspect of the crown chakra work with depression, anxiety, mood swings, memory, calmness, creativity and balancing mental emotional problems. I would be happy to do some distant healing on you with your permission. All I need is your full name. We can set a time so that you are aware of the healing or I can do a healing without your awareness. Looking forward to hearing from you soon. love and light, chrissy ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Sat, 13 May 2000 11:32:48 EDT Chrissi61266 Re: TMJ or jaw exercises on the subject of tmj i would have to also ask what are you not saying that you need to? what are you holding back? are you communicating what you need to be? are you speaking the absolute truth? the mental emotional aspects of the third chakra are, control by tone of voice and words we speak, codependency recovery because of power/control issues, anger and rage, self-confidence, anxiety, stage fright,stabilizing and communication. i too have had tmj and found that i was afraid to say certain things due to not wanting to hurt others feelings in the process my jaw was the one suffering. remember that there is no disease only dis-ease, which means you are not on track with who you truly are. pain is for a reason it is because you have been denying something in yourself for so long. you have overlooked the messages so the pain comes to make you do something about it. tmj can be very painful, but it is a blessing for you. acknowledge what this means for you. learn the lesson and be well. love and light, chrissy ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Sat, 13 May 2000 17:56:08 EDT lv2breathe Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma Hi! About the sheepskins. In yesterday's post, someone said the following: "we are not involved in the killing (of the sheep)", "(the sheep) LIKE their skins to used in meditation" and "they(the sheep) are not killed for their skins". I respectfully disagree with all of the above. If you like using sheepskins and don't care about the animal who once owned them, fine, admit it and go on. But let's not be dishonest about the issue. It is not true that we are not involved in the killing of the sheep when we use their skins. Yes, we are not DIRECTLY killing them, but we are using the products that came from their death, and we are SUPPORTING the killing by giving others money to do the dirty work. This is a form of indirect killing and when you use these products you have some of the karma because you are part of the process. Sheep LIKE their skins to be used for meditation? Have you asked a sheep? As far as I know animals are sentient creatures who value their lives (and skins) and will fight for their them. They also avoid pain and suffering. I haven't as yet seen animals gladly lay down their lives so we can have a comfy rug (that we don't absolutely need for good meditations). Please! There is no reason to have to have a sheepskin or to use the bodily parts of any other animal to have good Kundalini sessions or meditations! And let's stop assuming animals are just DYING to serve our every whim and want just so we can feel better about exploiting them. Yes, it's probably true that the sheep were not killed ONLY for their skins, but PART of the reason they were killed is because of the skins. Just like in the meat industry, leather is a large componet of the profits, without which the industry would suffer. When you are purchasing any animal product like skins, you ARE supporting the ranchers, the factory farms and slaughterhouses. You are supporting all of the componets of and that lead up to the killing. You become a part of it! I am sorry, it's not honest to say you don't have a part in the killing when you use "just the skins". The karma of their suffering will be with you then, too. From what I have learned from other Masters is that a part of any true spiritual path, is that you are compassionate to ALL beings. It doesn't mean that animals become more than humans or even that they have the same worth. You just recognize that you don't want to contribute to the suffering of the world (whether animal or human) anymore. By keeping a vegetarian diet and refraining from buying animal products (especially unnessary ones) you improving collective and personal karma. Kristina ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Sun, 14 May 2000 02:08:03 EDT LadyOStars Re: Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma Kristina.... i maybe wrong... but i understood Gururattan Kaur's post differently... (i think it is her post you are refering to) when she wrote "they are not killed for their skins" i understood it to mean that they are not farmed for that purpose... meaning no one kills them but their skin is put to use when they die... its sort of like when native american's sell animal parts such as antlers and such they are called "shed" antlers meaning that the animal was not killed for the product... but the antler was either shed or they were harvested from the animal without harming... or found upon death... that is not to say that there are no industries out there that do kill animals for the purpose of obtaining their skins... but i understood that perhaps there are "kind" supplier out there that dont kill animals but obtain the skins after natural death... especially for those cultures or philosophies that follow "harm none including animals..." but i could have misunderstood it too.... just my thoughts Sat Nam Akire ___________To all that responded to my call to help for my recent lost relationship, I thank you. I have been in contact with him recently and he is doing very well and in fact recently crossed over and is a Shamin now. He seems so at peace and was able to remind me that his love for me is still in his heart and that we will always be friends. I too will always love him and have found peace in where we are today. I miss him very much altho I am aware that in this life there are no accidents and we were in each others lives for a reason. I am continuing to heal and even with having some difficulties with my meditation I will continue on,and call upon the God force within me to pursue each moment and ask for daily guidence. Sat Nam, Suzanne ___________ ______________________ ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2000 Report Share Posted May 15, 2000 --- Original Message --- Kundaliniyoga Wrote on 14 May 2000 09:49:53 -0000 ------------------ ------ Make music with anyone, anywhere, through FREE Internet recording studio software. FREE software download! http://click./1/3734/3/_/505222/_/958297793/ ------ "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" - Yogi Bhajan You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the ONElist Member Center (My ONElist), or send mail to Kundaliniyoga- NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! WEB SITE: kundalini yoga KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from kundalini yogaclasses.html Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Popular publishers since 1988 of books on Kundalini Yoga and Meditation. ------ There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Positive Thinking Chrissi61266 2. Re: Epilepsy Chrissi61266 3. Re: TMJ or jaw exercises Chrissi61266 4. Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma lv2breathe 5. Re: Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma LadyOStars ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Sat, 13 May 2000 11:04:51 EDT Chrissi61266 Re: Positive Thinking Judy, Hello. The drunken monkey is that voice that gives you the excuse not to do something. Ex. you are on a diet and you see a piece of cake that you want, you know you are dieting and shouldnt have it, but the drunken monkey comes out and gives you all the reasons you should have that cake. He tells you what you think you want to hear to keep you from doing what is really important to you. He is the excuse. So you eat the cake, and the candy too all the while proclaiming to be on a diet when in all actuality you are not. He makes the tough jobs "easy". The drunken monkey will gladly give us all the reasons why eating just one piece of cake doesnt really matter. He serves as denial, justification, rationalizations, and stories to explain why we didnt get what we wanted. With these reasons, we avoid something in ourselves, something we are afraid of. I think the key is to listen to your "gut" that is your guidance system, and to let feelings flow instead of stifling them. The more you stifle the more you stagnate, the more you stagnate the less you get done, the less you get done the worse you feel, the worse you feel, ect....ect.......I hope this helps. Also remembering there are no mistakes only lessons helps. love and light, chrissy ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Sat, 13 May 2000 11:22:28 EDT Chrissi61266 Re: Epilepsy Have you ever tried going to a Reiki Practitioner? i would imagine that there are some blockages or stagnation in the third eye chakra as well as the crown chakra. The crown chakra governs the balancing of the left and right hemispheres, inner ear equilibrium, eye stem problems, seizures, pineal, pituitary, hypothalamus, limbic system of the brain, headache, endorphin/pain release, and shock. The mental/ emotional aspect of the crown chakra work with depression, anxiety, mood swings, memory, calmness, creativity and balancing mental emotional problems. I would be happy to do some distant healing on you with your permission. All I need is your full name. We can set a time so that you are aware of the healing or I can do a healing without your awareness. Looking forward to hearing from you soon. love and light, chrissy ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Sat, 13 May 2000 11:32:48 EDT Chrissi61266 Re: TMJ or jaw exercises on the subject of tmj i would have to also ask what are you not saying that you need to? what are you holding back? are you communicating what you need to be? are you speaking the absolute truth? the mental emotional aspects of the third chakra are, control by tone of voice and words we speak, codependency recovery because of power/control issues, anger and rage, self-confidence, anxiety, stage fright,stabilizing and communication. i too have had tmj and found that i was afraid to say certain things due to not wanting to hurt others feelings in the process my jaw was the one suffering. remember that there is no disease only dis-ease, which means you are not on track with who you truly are. pain is for a reason it is because you have been denying something in yourself for so long. you have overlooked the messages so the pain comes to make you do something about it. tmj can be very painful, but it is a blessing for you. acknowledge what this means for you. learn the lesson and be well. love and light, chrissy ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Sat, 13 May 2000 17:56:08 EDT lv2breathe Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma Hi! About the sheepskins. In yesterday's post, someone said the following: "we are not involved in the killing (of the sheep)", "(the sheep) LIKE their skins to used in meditation" and "they(the sheep) are not killed for their skins". I respectfully disagree with all of the above. If you like using sheepskins and don't care about the animal who once owned them, fine, admit it and go on. But let's not be dishonest about the issue. It is not true that we are not involved in the killing of the sheep when we use their skins. Yes, we are not DIRECTLY killing them, but we are using the products that came from their death, and we are SUPPORTING the killing by giving others money to do the dirty work. This is a form of indirect killing and when you use these products you have some of the karma because you are part of the process. Sheep LIKE their skins to be used for meditation? Have you asked a sheep? As far as I know animals are sentient creatures who value their lives (and skins) and will fight for their them. They also avoid pain and suffering. I haven't as yet seen animals gladly lay down their lives so we can have a comfy rug (that we don't absolutely need for good meditations). Please! There is no reason to have to have a sheepskin or to use the bodily parts of any other animal to have good Kundalini sessions or meditations! And let's stop assuming animals are just DYING to serve our every whim and want just so we can feel better about exploiting them. Yes, it's probably true that the sheep were not killed ONLY for their skins, but PART of the reason they were killed is because of the skins. Just like in the meat industry, leather is a large componet of the profits, without which the industry would suffer. When you are purchasing any animal product like skins, you ARE supporting the ranchers, the factory farms and slaughterhouses. You are supporting all of the componets of and that lead up to the killing. You become a part of it! I am sorry, it's not honest to say you don't have a part in the killing when you use "just the skins". The karma of their suffering will be with you then, too. From what I have learned from other Masters is that a part of any true spiritual path, is that you are compassionate to ALL beings. It doesn't mean that animals become more than humans or even that they have the same worth. You just recognize that you don't want to contribute to the suffering of the world (whether animal or human) anymore. By keeping a vegetarian diet and refraining from buying animal products (especially unnessary ones) you improving collective and personal karma. Kristina ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Sun, 14 May 2000 02:08:03 EDT LadyOStars Re: Sheepskins = suffering and bad karma Kristina.... i maybe wrong... but i understood Gururattan Kaur's post differently... (i think it is her post you are refering to) when she wrote "they are not killed for their skins" i understood it to mean that they are not farmed for that purpose... meaning no one kills them but their skin is put to use when they die... its sort of like when native american's sell animal parts such as antlers and such they are called "shed" antlers meaning that the animal was not killed for the product... but the antler was either shed or they were harvested from the animal without harming... or found upon death... that is not to say that there are no industries out there that do kill animals for the purpose of obtaining their skins... but i understood that perhaps there are "kind" supplier out there that dont kill animals but obtain the skins after natural death... especially for those cultures or philosophies that follow "harm none including animals..." but i could have misunderstood it too.... just my thoughts Sat Nam Akire ___________To all that responded to my call to help for my recent lost relationship, I thank you. I have been in contact with him recently and he is doing very well and in fact recently crossed over and is a Shamin now. He seems so at peace and was able to remind me that his love for me is still in his heart and that we will always be friends. I too will always love him and have found peace in where we are today. I miss him very much altho I am aware that in this life there are no accidents and we were in each others lives for a reason. I am continuing to heal and even with having some difficulties with my meditation I will continue on,and call upon the God force within me to pursue each moment and ask for daily guidence. Sat Nam, Suzanne ___________ ______________________ ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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