Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Dear Sadhant Singh I really appreciated your posting about fasting as it jolted me into getting back into it. I fasted for years using the Indian "ekadashi" system but began experiencing problems after a while. Perhaps you know something about dry fasting and you can assist me. Actually the real reason I stopped was not because of the "problems" but because of slackness. So your posting was the perfect cue to get back into it. I've been doing KY for about 10 years now and along the way this system of fasting made sense because of the benefits it gave to my meditation: we would fast 4 times a month, 3 days before new moon (which happens to be 11 days after full), on new moon, three days before full moon (most always 11 days after new) and on full moon. However, we were told, by the guiding acaryas, that if we had no health problems we should dry fast ie nothing not even water to pass the lips for 24 hours. So after the evening meal on the night before the fasting day, we'd have nothing until breakfast of the day after the fasting day. The benefits for meditation were spectacular but I experienced a "backlash" response to it in that on the day of breaking fast, I couldn't stop eating!! Defeated the purpose somewhat, I thought. I latered the fasting to include water, which I found more difficult to sustain than dry fasting and gradually I stopped doing it. This time I intend to restart doing just fruit. Would be interested in your response. Ravi Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Sat Nam Ravi Kaur: I don't know about dry fasting - and feel it has to be pretty tough on the body to go without water. YB only (AFAIK) talks about fasting in the context of just water, or with a restricted diet. The way I fast includes plenty of water and as much yogi tea as seems right (I drink at least 1 or 2 cups of yogi tea on my fasting days). It is a 24-hour fast, in the same fashion as you describe, and certainly breaking the fast can be challenging sometimes (even though I drink plenty of water). I like to start with melon, because I know I shouldn't eat anything for half an hour after that - usually by then my massive urge to eat has subsided YB's book Foods for Health and Healing talks about various specialized fasts (just fruit, just melon, just bananas, etc.). These are especially for longer periods (the melon fast has a schedule for a month!). I haven't tried any of these longer fasts yet (he suggests doing them in the spring, btw), but I have a friend who does them pretty regularly and says they are great. Even for a single day, I am sure these restricted diet fasts will provide a distinct benefit. One of the points of doing this is that when the body is caught up in digesting food, energy is being used for that which isn't available for higher purposes, like meditation. All these restricted diets, like fruit only, are extremely digestable. I hope your fasts go well! Love & blessings, Sadhant Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Hi Sadhant! Do you fast four times a month according to the moon or once in a week? I heard it is also good to fast on Thursdays (Jupiter's day). Love & blessings Sat Sarbat Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Dear Sat Sarbat Kaur: I fast 2 or three times per lunar cycle - always on the full and new moon, sometimes on the 11th day after the new moon. This is according to the advice from Gurunam's "Lifting the Veil", which combines Kabbalah and KY. He recommends being moderate with food on Thursdays, but also points out that Thursday might not mean Thursday on the calendar - that is, everyone has a personal week according to the day of the week that one is born - you should consider the actual day you were born to be your personal Sunday and calculate your week accordingly - for example, since I was born on a Tuesday, my personal Thursday is actually Saturday on the calendar. Love & light, Sadhant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Hello I think fruit or juice fasting is much easier to do. After all, the difficulty and discomfort you go thru when you fast is directly proportional to how toxic you are, and most of us are quite toxic. With a fruit fast, you are keeping the colon moving by ingesting fiber, and the nature of the fruit is detoxifying. There are lots of antioxidants, etc in fruit that meet and neutralize the wastes you are eliminating at an accelerated rate. You feel a lot better also. For a beginner, it can be nearly impossible to fulfill one's normal work obligations during a water only fast, or no water fast. If you are on a fruit fast however, you can always just eat some fruit when you start to freak out, and will immediately feel better, and in this way get thru the day. Nobody has mentioned colonics and enemas, but many people feel they are necesary and unavoidable if you are doing a water fast. By the way, does anyone have a recipe for Yogi Tea they can share. lilith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2000 Report Share Posted September 16, 2000 Hi Lilith! What are colonics and enemas?.. Thanks, sat sarbat k. > Nobody has mentioned colonics and enemas, but many people feel they > are > necesary and unavoidable if you are doing a water fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 HELLO! > > What are colonics and enemas?.. > Thanks, > sat sarbat k. > You really don't know? Oh. Ahhh. I really have to tell you? They are means to cleanse the colon through water irrigation. Enemas can easily be done at home with a bag purchased from any drugstore, and cleanse only the lower bowel. You need a special board and equipment for doing a colonic, and often they are done at a healing center. With them, the water goes all the way up to the small intestine, and are thus more thorough. There are some oriental medecine schools of thought that highly discourage their use, and believe them to be harmful and unnatural at all times. I knew someone who could no longer have normal bowel movements after years of weekly use of colonics, although she claimed her colon wasn't functioning properly before either. There are other schools of thought that glorify them, and make them out to be the cure for almost everything. In moderation, I believe in they have their place. It is an old faster's trick, that just when you feel like you are going absolutely insane and can't go another minute without eating, you do an enema, and then you will feel OK. It's because toxins being released into the colon during the fast are being reabsorbed into the blood stream. So the discomfort you feel when you fast is not so much a case of low blood sugar as it is of being poisoned. Lilith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2001 Report Share Posted August 12, 2001 Sat Nam! Here is a link for a vedic calendar with the Ekadasi fast schedule, including times to break the fast for New York city and the surrounding area of the US: http://www.harekrishna.com/la/calny.txt. It differs for different regions. So, here is a link to a website where you can download a program to determine just what the vaishnava calendar is for your area: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/3108/. Hari Bol! littlebird Leslie 56> > ingrid mundari [ijm+] > Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:12 PM > littlebird108 > RE: Fasting > > > Daer Seva Simran, > Would you please post the info on this "ideal time frame" > during which to > break a fast. It would be greatly appreciated. > Thank You > Jiwan Mukta Kaur > > --On Wednesday, August 8, 2001 11:57 AM -0400 littlebird108 > <littlebird108 wrote:r > > > Oh, and by the way, > > there is also an ideal time frame for breaking ekadashi the following > > day. If anyone is interested in trying it I could get the calendar > > resource my husband has used. > > > >> > >> mark terrell [mark.terrell] > >> Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:47 AM > >> Kundaliniyoga > >> Re: Planets and days > >> > >> > >> Traditionally the best days to fast are thursday (jupiter) or > >> monday (moon). In kundalini yoga the 11th day of the new moon is > >> also said to be > >> good because the glandular secretions are said to be particularly > >> strong that day. Full moon and new moon are good too. > >> > >> Seva Simran > > > > > > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > > - Yogi Bhajan > > > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My > > Groups), or send mail to Kundaliniyoga > > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on > Kundalini Yoga > > & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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