depression

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Hi every body

 

I am practicing Ky for 5 months. But because of depression I cant continue

some days.Severe fatigue, loss of interest, poor memmory,a disturbed mind,

not interested in sex are my problems. Any body could help me to suggest an

alternative midicine to have recovery from these problems. Also it can keep

my interest in further KY training.

 

Please help me.

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Dear Maria and Mary,

 

Let's all try to add the appropriate subject titles, me included.

 

This is a great letter on depressin, Maria.

 

You might also like to consider loving the monster. Once I felt that really

heavy energy and didn't know how to get rid of it. I kept being with and

felt this awesome strength. I felt as though I had just misperceive it or

misused it. It was really a powerful ally

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

 

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"mgb" <mgbaraybar

<Kundaliniyoga>

Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:59 PM

Re: CD & Video Suggestions

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I would just like to say I agree with Jacqui about medication. There are

unfortunately some conditions for which there is no natural cure, and

those who have them shoudn't be made to feel gulity for taking

medication, because of some ideal idea that there is a cure or a natural

remedy for everything . Look at the example of our beloved Yogi Bhajan -

he just went through very serious surgery to have a transpanted kidney,

and although I know very little about it I believe he will have to take

medication for the rest of his life so his body doesn't reject it .

Would anyone suggest he should find a natural alternative ?!!!!

 

Love to all,

Avtar.

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Deanna,

Thank you for your comments. What you don't realize is that I have

the same depression my mother and other members of her family had.

It is not correct to go out from the assumption that all depression

is the same. You felt depressed and had"empty nest syndrome", the

moment you bought your dog, things went better for you and that is

great.

However when you have a hereditary shortage of serotonin in your

brain, no amount of books(I've read them) or animals(I've got them)

or anything else than medication will replace the serotonin you lack.

By starting off with telling me about not taking medication longer

than a year,you make me wonder if you would say this to a diabetic as

well.Very few people really know what a nightmare authentic

depression is and how hard those having it struggle to get rid of it.

There isn't a herb or therapy I haven't tried, I have spend thousands

of dollars on every alternative therapy you can come up with. But

there came a point when I had to accept that I will have to take this

medication for as long as it takes.

Please don't give this kind of advice to people when you base your

opinions on your own experiences.

It causes feelings of hopelesness, especially in depressed people who

haven't come to terms with what they have.

Avtar, you said it well when you mentioned Yogi Bajhan's new kidney.

Thanks for understanding.

In light and love,

Jacqui

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Hi Jaqui,

I am sorry if I offended this wasn't my intention, but I do know how

emotional pain anxiety and depression feels like.

Whenever I felt depressed, it felt like being in a black hole and it

would take me several days to come out of it on my own...

Most people think this is hereditary, I don't believe it is.

I think it can be 'passed down' in families, via living together, the

environment, etc.

I still feel within myself that drugs should be taken only as the last

resort, too many people are taking legal drugs for everything in this

country today.

Even kids are forced to take drugs when they don't even need them.

Just as a child I suffered from asthma, well I can say today, looking

back, it only showed up because I was in a very stressful environment,

otherwise it would not have bothered me.

Our emotions and mind control our body so much.

So I am not telling anyone anything, just from my own experience and I

have lived a very long time, read a lot and come to the conclusion that

most depression can be overcome by holistic treatments, since drugs are

only a 'band-aid' not a solution to the real problem that caused the

illness in the first place.

I hate to think of the cancers caused by foreign chemicals we ingest or

are exposed to.

They say the new generation is the generation of anxiety and depression,

the world the way it is going is depressing to me.

I avoid reading and listening to the world news, it makes me wonder if

people are still uncivilized.

A war without end, the violence and sexual climate of our culture, normal

people feel depressed when they read about this.

I like Dr. Paul Pearsall's books and tapes,

"The Pleasure Principle" should be taught in every school in this

nation... emotional intelligence is more important than the three R's

today.

There is no proof that depression is inherited in the genes, no, that is

not proved yet...and I don't believe it myself.

Even if it were, better to overcome it the most natural way, people are

to quick to take drugs, but in some cases I do agree some few people may

need drugs all their lives, I would never agree with that for myself...

and believe me I have been in that black hole myself, many times and I

know how that feels.

It feels good to not let it beat you down.

Drugs are not a cure, just a way of not feeling the hurt so deeply, but

you stop the drug and back you go to square one, better to work it out

slowly, with support, with prayer, not alone.

Deanna

 

~*~ 'The things I thought were so important have turned out to be of

small value. And the things I never

thought about, the things I was never able to either measure or expect,

were the things that mattered.'

-Thomas Merton 'There is no charm equal to tenderness of heart.' -

Jane Austen What do you hold

valuable? ~*~

@( ~ ~ )@ & Nizhoni Tipsoo @=@

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Deanna,

You did not offend in the least.

You are welcome to have your own thoughts and opinions as far as

illness goes.

When specialists tells me the cause for what I have then I will

believe them , I have no other choice. When I have tried every thing

else and nothing works then I have no other choice but to take the

medication.

What proof do you have that medicine causes cancer and which medicine

are you refering to?

On what scientific material do you base your assumption that

depression can't be hereditary.?

Jacqui

[Guest guest]

Dear ALL,

Thanks so much for all your reactions and that also goes for those

that have written to me personally.

Believe me I am not a victim of depression. I take the lowest dose of

medication possible and I stay very aware of my thoughts. If I still

fall in the pit, I get out, dust myself down and may even BOOGIE!!

The point I was trying to make was that many people think that

depressive tendencies is the real thing. Everyone of us will get

those, when we have a traumatic experience. With medication,therapies

etc. within six months things are back to normal.

This is a far cry from real depression, this is where you find those

on suicide watch wards in a closed off environment. I have never had

any of those tendencies, thank God, but I know others who have. I

also know that trivializing there ailment is enough to send them over

the edge.

It is very much like having a fever and a runny nose and saying you

have the flu' when you only have a cold.You are better in five days,

now you meet somebody who really have the flu' and who has been sick

for ten days. So you start telling him how quickly you were

better.What possible good is that doing him.?

In conclusion, there are times that we need medication, if you don't

you are lucky, if you do you are also lucky that it is available.

Take it, do what you can to feel as good as you can and never stop

being grateful for all your blessings.

Happy week-end everyone,

Jacqui

[Guest guest]

Hello Jacqui,

 

how long did you try everything else?

Did you Ra Ma Da Sa everyday, did you hear the CD silently whole nights for

example...?

Healing needs some time...

Why do you ask, if you have your own answers?

I wish you all the best, but don't forget the mails, which write from

healing with sunlight...,

it's a big power, much more bigger, than every medicine, but everything has

the own time

and sometimes medicine is not wrong, but sunlight and herbs... they are

right for ever..., they come directly from God.

Perhaps some depressions are hereditary, my grandmother had moods like this,

my mother too,

and sometimes I too, but there is no reason to say: this is our only way to

be, it's hereditary, so I can do nothing.

I can believe: The sun can heal me or I can believe it not, it's my decision

each new day.

And I prefer to be happy, not sad. So I work on it... and it's possible to

enjoy our lives, even when there are some

points we don't like. I'm ill since many years and often I see not a little

hope, but I also have many other reasons to be happy

and thankful.

 

Sonja

 

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"jvr20nl" <protea

<Kundaliniyoga>

Friday, April 19, 2002 3:37 PM

Re: Depression

 

 

> Deanna,

> You did not offend in the least.

> You are welcome to have your own thoughts and opinions as far as

> illness goes.

> When specialists tells me the cause for what I have then I will

> believe them , I have no other choice. When I have tried every thing

> else and nothing works then I have no other choice but to take the

> medication.

> What proof do you have that medicine causes cancer and which medicine

> are you refering to?

> On what scientific material do you base your assumption that

> depression can't be hereditary.?

> Jacqui

[Guest guest]

Have been dealinlg with severe depression off and on for over a year now.

Found out my thyroid is a little off, started on 1/4 Gr bio-throid, also

because of the work I do have lead, cadmium, and antimony poisoning.

Hopefully will start a detox soon. And extreme stress running my own

business. Any helpful ideas?

[Guest guest]

I, too, have had long-time battle with depression. There is a wonderful

meditation for release of cold depression in the winter 2001 issue of Aquarian

Times, which i find to be both an immediate and long-term uplifter. The

meditation is done to the mantra Wahe Guru, Wahe Jio (which can be found on any

sadhana cd or tape). if you need the details, just letme know offgroup and i'll

send them to you.

Peace, Love and Light, Sukhmani

 

-

samangan

Kundaliniyoga

Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:59 PM

Re: Re: depression

 

 

Have been dealinlg with severe depression off and on for over a year now.

Found out my thyroid is a little off, started on 1/4 Gr bio-throid, also

because of the work I do have lead, cadmium, and antimony poisoning.

Hopefully will start a detox soon. And extreme stress running my own

business. Any helpful ideas?

 

 

 

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