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In a message dated 10/5/00 7:21:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Kundaliniyoga writes:

 

> Something like

> 95% of westerners who became interested in eastern religion did so

> originally thru a drug experience.

 

Lilith...where did you get these stats! Come on now..."westerners take drugs

for 95% awareness in eastern religion." This is a very s t r e t c h e d

statement. I am aware and partake in many diverse groups practicing various

forms of eastern religions and traditions:::: most of whom have participated

in NO drug experience, their altered states came from

meditation(s)...prayer...yoga....a true body-mind.

 

Just my few cents worth. I too have never had a drug experience to reach any

level of enlightenment. I do know several people who use drugs; however,

they are not committed to any path of eastern religion.

 

Namaste'

Soulspecks <Dianna>

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>> Something like

>> 95% of westerners who became interested in eastern religion did so

>> originally thru a drug experience.

>

>Lilith...where did you get these stats! Come on now..."westerners take

drugs

>for 95% awareness in eastern religion." This is a very s t r e t c h e d

>statement. I am aware and partake in many diverse groups practicing

various

>forms of eastern religions and traditions:::: most of whom have

participated

>in NO drug experience, their altered states came from

>meditation(s)...prayer...yoga....a true body-mind.

>

>Just my few cents worth. I too have never had a drug experience to reach

any

>level of enlightenment. I do know several people who use drugs; however,

>they are not committed to any path of eastern religion.

>

>Namaste'

>Soulspecks <Dianna>

 

Most of the people I know that are currently studying esoteric material came

to do so through drug use. I would say about 80%, though after becoming

'awakened' (I know it sounds corny) they are strong advocates against the

drug use. Myself and I lot of my friends went through mental illness on the

path.

 

The drugs cloud the mind, they cause delusions and may open a channel to

something that you don't want. But they will help to open you up,

everything is in intoxicant in some form or another, everything has an

effect upon the body, the mind and the soul. Like was mentioned before,

mantra, starvation etc. all can help to open you up to the world outside.

 

I am not supporting drug use, I strongly steer people with spiritual

intentions away from it, but alot of the people you become spiritual people

start off with no idea or intention or saying it is stupid and pointless.

The drugs expand their mind, quickly too.

 

Well I am rambling so I'll stop.

 

Steve

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I am wondering what, if anything, I can do to keep my left foot awake while

sitting for an extended period of time. The tingling and mild discomfort from

the foot falling asleep is distracting during chanting/etc. Happens almost

every day while doing kundalini yoga. I usually stretch my leg out until it

wakes up again, then resume a modified tailor seat position. I sit on a

cushion (to help me keep my spine straight). With appreciation, Sheri

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