Guest guest Posted December 23, 2000 Report Share Posted December 23, 2000 Hi List- I have recently started a KY class and I am impressed with the changes I am already experiencing. It is faster change than I anticipated. Here are some issues coming up in my practice- insight is so very welcome! (If my use of terminology seems wrong, I am learning KY in Germany and so I am probably not translating from the German into the most familiar terms.) 1) Self-diagnosis. How do I best come to understand what sets I ought to be practicing? I am now doing a set for the spine because I figure that is a pretty good place to start. But in general, how does one learn what one most needs to work on? And do experienced practitioners stay with a set for the full 40 days if their needs seem to shift partway through? 2) Range of motion/ballastic stretching. I may be getting in to trouble here because I come from a Hatha background, where in every pose I moved to the "edge" and did the work of the pose there ("breathing into the area of most intense sensation", moving prana there). In these KY dynamic exercises particularly the very vigorous/quick ones, if I try to move to my edge, I end up bouncing off of it, stretches, and ballistic stretches are not generally recommended as effective/safe... So does one ~not~ seek the edge/ try to go through the fullest range of motion when doing dynamic exercises? 3) Classroom negativity. I can see why wearing white is recommended; it makes you feel you've got some kind of protection from all that scary stuff flying around! I am not talking about anything too metaphysical here; the exercises are very difficult to do and people get to look at how they handle failure. I can so far do everything in class, but then I've got years of Hatha yoga behind me and I jog. Lots of people can't complete the sets, most must struggle with frustration and failure, and some complain. Now, as I mentioned I am studying in Germany and the culture here around complaining is different than in the States, but still you can tell that people are really suffering with the fact that they aren't always having fun in class, they can't necessarily do the minimum of what the instructor wants them to do, and they aren't able to do what the person sitting next to them can do with the apparent ease that their neighbor seems to enjoy. I am glad I am not the instructor having to face all these long faces, sighs, winces and glares! The retention rate for this beginner class seems to be low, although I will guess that it may have something to do with the time of year and holiday stress---->absenteeism. I am not sure what my question here is other than, does all this pass somewhat? Is it because this is a beginner class and people are having to decide if KY is too much for them or not? Or is this normal? Thank you for any insights you would care to share! Off-list responses are welcome if people feel shy about posting. Thank you &Sat Nam Serena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2000 Report Share Posted December 23, 2000 Sat Nam Serena! > 1) Self-diagnosis. How do I best come to understand what > sets I ought to be practicing? I am now doing a set for the My teacher taught me to choose my sets based on which ones I found the most challenging (that could be emotionally, physically, or otherwise) in class, since that was a good indication of which issues were most in need of work. > And do experienced practitioners stay with a set for the full > 40 days if their needs seem to shift partway through? My experience is that is is best to complete the 40 days - in retrospect, I always find that my apparent shift of needs has more to do with resistance to completing the current work than anything else. In fact, sometimes one should do more than 40 days (40 days to break a habit, 90 days to establish a new one, 1,000 days to master a kriya). Follow your heart - not your head... > are not generally recommended as effective/safe... So does one > ~not~ seek the edge/ try to go through the fullest range of motion One should definitely be careful not to "go ballistic" with the dynamic exercises, but strive for a balance between being safe and pushing enough to have some improvement. Pushing too much, of course, can result in being sore, or even causing damage, so always stay on the side of caution, > most must struggle with frustration and failure, > and some complain. > I am not sure what my question here is other than, does all this > pass somewhat? Is it because this is a beginner class and people > are having to decide if KY is too much for them or not? Or is this > normal? As a teacher I find that it is important not to push students, especially beginning students, too much. I monitor them carefully, and suggest alternate positions, encourage them to keep their eyes closed so they focus on their work and not what the neighbor is doing, and so forth. What is easy for one is difficult for another - but that doesn't mean that one person is getting any more or less benefit from the exercise than anyone else. Many people overdo, push themselves too much, and end up not enjoying the work, not coming back to class, and so forth - this entirely misses the point. One must focus on the fact that there is no such thing as "failure" - one does what one can within the limits of our bodies as they are - strength & flexibility come with time. As long as one does their best - and that doesn't mean doing the most one can do, but doing what is right for them at the time - then they will improve and find great benefit from their practice, and enjoy doing the work, as well. Students don't ever fail - only I can fail to be the best teacher I can be, which I define as having students leave feeling that they have failed, or not feeling as if they have had fun, and learned something, and gained something. We have to strive for the balance point (as YB remarks on) between being lazy and being fanatic. When we are lazy, we don't improve - when we are fanatic, we push ourselves (or others) too far, which is self-defeating. Many blessings, Sadhant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2001 Report Share Posted December 11, 2001 I received an email from a potential student with the following questions below. Could anyone help me answer them? Thank you and Sat Nam, Nirmal Kaur I understand that you use sounds in the form of chants (externalized and silent) and I recognize the impact of sounds upon us. My question relates to the use of what some call the "Sound Current", which is typically defined as the Sound of the Universe, the Sound of God, etc. -- the vibrations that permeate all of creation and can be heard by all. Do you utilize those as well? Or, is your use of sound in the form of chants? I saw that some of the chants are Sanskrit words. Do you, also, use overtone chants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Greetings Pam! Yes, if you look in the literature on the website for SHABDA meditation technique (I believe it is spelled as SHABAD on the Lessons menu). This technique and its variants is one of my favorites, and personally most direct and effective. Blessings! Buddy Carl Pounds PamENixon wrote: I received an email from a potential student with the following questions below. Could anyone help me answer them? Thank you and Sat Nam, Nirmal Kaur I understand that you use sounds in the form of chants (externalized and silent) and I recognize the impact of sounds upon us. My question relates to the use of what some call the "Sound Current", which is typically defined as the Sound of the Universe, the Sound of God, etc. -- the vibrations that permeate all of creation and can be heard by all. Do you utilize those as well? Or, is your use of sound in the form of chants? I saw that some of the chants are Sanskrit words. Do you, also, use overtone chants? Check out Shopping and Auctionsfor all of your holiday gifts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Hi Robin There are quite a number of us going to Summer Solstice Camp. Suggest that everyone uses the Yoga Technology table in the Bazaar as a meeting point - we look forward to meeting many of you there - and we can arrange with everyone that comes round to meet back up at a specific time. Sat Nam! Gordon - sparkofgod1 Kundaliniyoga Friday, May 30, 2003 12:06 PM Kundalini Yoga Questions Hi ,Robin Peterse here, Has anyone in the group taken the tele class may 15 RE the summer solstice preparation? Do you have the teachers name and e mail I took the class but my understansing is fuzzy on how to shorten the sa ta na meditation sequence recommended on pg 95 of the morning sadhana book. Is any body in the group going to summer solstice in Espanola. Do you know a good way to contact each other there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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