Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 Dear Ardas Kaur, Thank you for a very important question. And actually you have the response in your letter. Listen to yourself, your body, your mental and emotional state. The answers are obvious. The first time I went to Sadhana, I did the full set at 4 am and it took me 5 days to recuperate. This is not good. There are intelligent guidelines and there is intuitive intelligence. A combination of the two is the best policy. Like combining the best of the masculine and the feminine. Many of the sets and yoga practices are for young men. A woman can burn herself out and not know it because of the kundalini energy which sustains us. There are no points in the end when you have no kidney power or adrenals left because you stressed yourself out either with your lifestyle, addictions, fear or too much macho running or an over zealous "spiritual" path. If we process the energy, we will advance much faster than if we burn ourselves out. Again, the feminine and masculine have to be balanced. SAt Nam. Gururattan Kaur I include your letter again. Well done. > I wonder if any experienced practitioners have noticed a phenomenon > like "overtraining" related to KY practice? > > I ask because I have dealt with overtraining related to running. > Symptoms are reluctance to run, chronic exhaustion, > sleep disruptions, chronic muscle soreness, predisposition > to injury and it just gets uglier from there. > > One of the best ways to avoid overtraining when running is to listen > to your bodymind; if you really feel averse to running, that is a warning sign > of overtraining and indicates you might be better taking the day off. > Mild depression/lack of enthusiasm for the run is the first overtraining > symptom most people notice. And most people ignore it, considering > it a sign of laziness or some such. > > I think I have noticed a phenomenon a bit like overtraining in my > sadhana. It seems very physical but also energetic? It happens > when I have just taken a class and done a whole new set for example. > If I have a really intense and grueling practice one day, > where a LOT of energy moves, the next > day I may be tender, irritable and uninterested in doing any of the new > exercises that made me that way. > > I have experienced being downright > averse to practice, as in it is a tossup between doing my > yoga set and going to the dentist in terms of which might be more > pleasurable. On those days I skipped, and the next day or the day after > my enthusiasm returned and practice was no problem. I don't think > I hurt my growth process by skipping on those days, but I would be willing to > hear another point of view. > > I suspect one issue here might be learning to distinguish between > resistance to change vs. warning messages from the bodymind > saying "ENOUGH has been done and i NEED another day to process > out the effects of your last practice, PLEASE!" > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 In a message dated 02/07/2001 11:51:56 PM W. Europe Standard Time, rattanak writes: > There are intelligent guidelines and there is intuitive intelligence. A > combination of the two is the best policy. Like combining the best of the > masculine and the feminine. > > Many of the sets and yoga practices are for young men. A woman can burn > herself out and not know it because of the kundalini energy which sustains > us. I really appreciate these points and it felt good to read them. It helps so much to hear important things in stereo- from one's inner Source, and also from an outer voice. It is such a service when anyone speaks from their inner Source. Masculine and feminine paths... well, I have felt at times that I am simply talking "past" some men in my life on matters related to discipline and goalsetting... What is this goofy "rationality thing, anyway? I think it is just a preference for order even at very high cost. :-) Setting fixed goals from a rational/intellectual basis is for me a prescription for burnout and real emotional/physical damage, and I have learned the hard way to be wary of it... but it works so well for some people! And why does it not work for me? Because it doesn't. And so I have learned to think twice about the recommendations of people who do grow in this way, but this is still for me somewhat uncomfortable especially if the advice-giver is sincere and knowledgeable. When I say I need to modify a plan, or something doesn't suit me, I run a risk of being judged and disregarded as "less enlightened", "less dedicated", less whatever. Since my self-confidence developed, it is no longer so excruciating for me to be judged in this way. But as you pointed out, self-doubt is a key issue here. It takes self-trust to value one's own inner guidance over the directives of the experts and authorities. Validation from other people does count. It is necessary, it does matter. I don't need it all the time, but if it never comes, there is a problem. I think it is romantic dogma that says if we only trust and believe enough in ourselves, then what other people say won't make any difference. If we are all one/interconnected, then what others say and think of us matters a whole heck of a lot. It is good to question oneself carefully, because self-deception/misguidedness is always a possibility, but past a certain point self-doubt becomes Self-betrayal. (Living in Germany, I feel steeped in these issues. And it seems pretty much always true around the world that some "clubs" just don't want you as a member if you question the party line. We are all such human beings!) No expert has to live inside my body, cope with my emotions, my environment, and grow with my limitations... if s/he did, s/he would probably be giving some different advice. Advice that would not suit other people so well as it suits me, and then they would be in the same spot I'm in! I have trained physically alongside men in weightlifting, martial arts and running, and I have noticed (to generalize) that they attack the practices differently and get different results. (I might whisper that some of the men I have trained with seem to get injured comparatively often and I connect this to an adherence to a written or set-in-stone schedule for training, that has no respect for the way bodies and needs change from day to day...) I admire the muscle-building and regenerative capacities that (young) men enjoy. Wish I had 'em! I have also met many men who have learned to be flexible and sensitive to their own needs, aging is probably a teacher. I am not trying to stress the gender issue too strongly or bash men. I have certainly met women who were rigid zealots in how they practiced, disregarding all intuition, rigid to the point of cracking (they do seem to burn out fast). I think the "punishment" (consequences) for living against one's intuition can be very harsh. I think they are harsher for some people than for others- maybe people on the "feminine path" Gururattan mentioned fall harder when they betray the inner Source. I have been, myself, ~all~ of these people, and seen all this stuff in me, and practiced/lived in all these destructive ways. So I'm reporting where I've been. As much bad sadhana as I have got behind me, I think I am perhaps ready to do it a little better now! There is a lot to learn and a lot of ideas to sort through. Sat Nam Ardas Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 Dear Ardas Kaur, Your letter was very insightful. I will save it for others who bring up the same topic in the future. As a planet and as individuals we are in the process of breaking through mass consciousness to shift paradigms. It is a challenge for all of us. Both masculine and feminine energies have been distorted. Now we must find and embody their higher expressions. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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