Protein

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Namaste -

 

I'd first like to say that this is my first post to the list and I have

been enjoying it immensely. Now, to the topic at hand:

 

Ah, the Protein question! Having been a Vegan for over 12 years, that

question is the most asked - and, why? One would think that after all

these years I'd be an expert on the answer - probably more so than the

so-called 'experts!'

 

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Protein

 

"Where does the cow get its protein? Or the horse? Elephant? Giraffe?

Gorilla? Hippoppotamus? Notice that some of these are the largest

creatures on earth?)"

 

Even if doctors are right (and that is in dispute) about our need for

protein, we would be able to get all the protein they say we need from

fruits, vegetables, seeds, and nuts without ever taking another meat or

dairy product, including eggs.

 

Protein in the human body is built from amino acids. Every amino acid

needed to build human protein is to be found in fruits, nuts, seeds, and

vegetables (including legumes).

 

A partial listing of foods with significant protein content (the

percentage of calories from protein):

 

avocados (5%)

apricots (8%)

bananas (5%)

cantaloupe (9%)

honeydew (10%)

sesame seeds (13%)

pumpkin seeds (21%)

lentils (29%)

mung bean sprouts (43%)

asparagus (38%)

beet greens (37%)

broccoli (45%)

cauliflower (40%)

cucumbers (24%)

garlic clove (20%)

mushrooms (38%)

parsley (34%)

spinach (49%)

watercress (46%)

buckwheat (15%)

 

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Protein Paranoia

http://www.ecologos.org/pp.htm

 

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Excerpts below taken from the cookbook,

 

"The Peaceful Palate"

by Jennifer Raymond.

 

While protein is indeed necessary for the body's growth, repair and

maintenance, we actually need rather small amounts to meet these

requirements. Women need about 44 grams per day (less than two ounces);

the requirement for men is 56 grams (about two ounces).

 

Health experts now recognize that most Americans eat too much protein,

resulting in negative consequences including kidney disease and

osteoporosis. When more protein than necessary is consumed the excess

is burned for energy or is converted to fat.In the course of this process,

nitrogen, sulfur compounds and other by-products are removed by the liver

and excreted by the kidneys.

 

As a result both the liver and kidneys are overworked when excess

protein is consumed.

Furthermore, consumption of excess protein, particularly animal

protein, causes calcium to be removed from the bones and excreted in the

urine.

We cannot compensate for this calcium loss by eating calcium-rich foods

or taking supplements, because our bodies simply will not absorb

calcium fast enough to replace the losses. As a result, a person on a high

protein diet is constantly losing more calcium from the bones than is

being replaced, eventually leading to weakening of the bones and

osteoporosis.

 

The way to prevent this problem is to decrease protein intake, and the

easiest way to do this is to eliminate meat, dairy products, and eggs.

The foods which are left - grains, beans, nuts, vegetables, and fruits

- provide plenty of protein to meet all of the body's requirements, and

they do it without overloading the body with protein like animal foods

do. It should be noted that vegetable proteins do not cause as much

calcium to be lost in the urine as do animal proteins. Thus, even

though vegetarians and vegans may exceed the protein requirement, their

risk of osteoporosis is less that that of meat eaters.

 

 

MYTH: Plant protein is inferior to animal protein.

 

FACT: Plant protein is made up of the same building blocks, called

"amino acids", as animal protein. Your body uses these amino acids to

make the protein it needs. As far as your body is concerned, it makes

no difference whether these amino acids come from plant or animal sources.

 

 

MYTH: Getting enough protein on a vegetarian diet is difficult and

requires a lot of planning.

 

FACT: Vegetarian diets easily supply plenty of protein, without all

the fat and cholesterol of meat-based diets. No complicated planning or

food combining is necessary. Just eat a variety of grains, beans,

vegetables and fruits each day.

 

 

The Peaceful Palate

Copyright 1992 by Jennifer Raymond

Heart and Soul Publications

 

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Vegetarian Guide: Details about Protein (long)

http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/proteinexplain.html

 

 

Om Shanti

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Another good source for information is a Diet for a Small Plant. It talk

about the 8

essential amino acids you body can't make and how by eating complementary

plant proteins you can overcome this problem. Example Corn & Bean each are

short in 1 amino acid and the other is high in that amino acid. One item I'm

not sure is covered in a Vegan diet would be vitamin B-12. Does anyone know

a good source for that.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear friends:

 

No matter how good our diet is, it is still important to supplement

with a variety of nutrients, including, of course, B-12 for us veggie

types. You may (or may not) get enough nutrients from a (very) good

diet to avoid deficiency diseases, but not enough of most things to

be considered optimal. In fact, many multi-vitamins target this same

area - sufficient vitamins to avoid disease, which in most cases is

much less than the quantities shown to promote optimal function of

brain and body.

 

You can read more about this in Dharma Singh Khalsa's "Brain

Longevity", which discusses the role of kundalini yoga, meditation,

and diet in maintaining good physical & mental health.

 

Love & blessings,

Sadhant

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

There are sublingual Vit12 tablets by most companies. I also like Solgar's

Hemitinic because it has iron in it.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

[Guest guest]

Dear Augie,

 

The list you sent is very useful. Thanks,

 

Mung bean sprouts are very easy to make. Just soak them in water for about

48 hours. Rince once. Then keep in refrigerator and put on salads or eat as

a snack.

 

Women especially over 40 are advised to include pumpkin seeds in their

diets. They help to produce estrogen. Apricots, sunflower seeds and

raisons are also recommened for the same reason.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

 

> avocados (5%)

> apricots (8%)

> bananas (5%)

> cantaloupe (9%)

> honeydew (10%)

> sesame seeds (13%)

> pumpkin seeds (21%)

> lentils (29%)

> mung bean sprouts (43%)

> asparagus (38%)

> beet greens (37%)

> broccoli (45%)

> cauliflower (40%)

> cucumbers (24%)

> garlic clove (20%)

> mushrooms (38%)

> parsley (34%)

> spinach (49%)

> watercress (46%)

> buckwheat (15%)

[Guest guest]

Hello!

Ahh, the old protein debate!

 

First I'll say that I am a person who believes that everyone's

body/metabolism/genetics are different,and so have different needs.

 

I was for many years a very ill strict vegan.

 

It was going back to protein that saved my life.

 

I personally think that there is about 25% of the general population that does

very well on a vegan diet.

As for the rest of us, and I think that ayurveda backs me up on this,

 

we must each find for ourselves the right combinations of macronutrients

 

geared to our types (blood, genetic disposition, ancestry, etc...)

 

I had to go back to a more omnivorous way of eating,

 

but I'm happy to relate that there is always new information coming out,

 

I've wanted very much to go back to vegetarianism in a way that would not

debilitate me.

 

As a vegan, I was overweight, depressed, and borderline diabetic.

 

At this time I have a somewhat limited paleolithic style diet based on fish,

eggs, fruits,vegetables, nuts and seeds, and feel much better.

 

I have found that I cannot tolerate grains or dairy or legumes, especially

soy, which is what everyone is raving about. They make me very ill and trigger

severe asthma.

 

I am hoping that with my kundalini practice, my body will rebalance itself and

I can happily become a vegan again.

blessings to all,

 

lily

 

 

 

 

 

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Lily,

I agree with you 100%. I was also overweight, and borderline diabetic.

Because I am a Yoga Teacher, I was feeling kind of unsettled about eating

meat. Then I read a great book about the life of a great Yogi. (I'm not even

going to try to spell his name) and he said nowhere in the Vedas does it say

that you cannot eat meat, and for some people it can even be dangerous not to

eat it. I have lost 45 pounds, feel great and have no more problems with my

joints. I believe everyone has to listen to their own bodies, and not judge

ourselves or anyone else.

 

Blessings to all,

Siri Ram K.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Lily,

 

Please tell me how you lost 45lbs.?

 

Thxs,

Ellen

[Guest guest]

I am on a low carb diet. I don't eat over 25 grms. of carbs. Most of what I

eat are salads. If you want to e-mail directly you can at

maheryogini.

Siri Ram K.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Also a good source of protein, can be Spirulina.

 

http://www.goodcarepharma.com/spirulina.htm

 

at the end of the page it's a link to

 

http://www.allayurveda.com/

 

 

 

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Yes, I would also like this info... Please share. Sandy

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<ellenroper

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Monday, March 19, 2001 1:00 PM

Re: Re: Protein

 

 

> Sat Nam Lily,

>

> Please tell me how you lost 45lbs.?

>

> Thxs,

> Ellen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

I lost 45 lbs on a low carb diet. I don't eat over 25 grams of carbs a day. I

mostly eat Salad with a little lean meat on it. Watch the dressing don't use

anything with more than 3 carbs per serving.

Siri Ram

My e-mail is maheryogini if you want more info