Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 Greetings, I am currious to know when the book, "Healing Drug Abuse" will be published. I am having trouble still with my addiction to cigarettes. I have gotten advise from Gururattan on the SA TA NA MA mantra and I've worked with it some, but have not made it through 40, no less, 90 days of continious meditation. Travel, committments, demands seem to break my committment to carry through, or perhaps it's myself working against myself. And, I just received and am reading and learning about Breathwalk, which includes the SA TA NA MA meditation while walking. Also, I have Ravi Singh videos, "Naval Power" and "The Highest Step". Both are very good, but I don't always have time to do them daily. I believe I have all the right tools, but will I automatically cut down until I quit or should I set a date to quit, or should I just say that's enough and grit my teeth to go through the withdrawals? If you can give me some insights into the procedural techniques and have an idea of what to anticipate and how I can get rid of this habit, I would really appreciate it. Smoking really contradicts everything I would like to be and yet I have a weakness for it, or addiction, or seem to find some need to hang onto it. Sat Nam, Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 Dear Diane: There is a specific meditation, the medical meditation for habituation or addiction, which is particularly recommended for dealing with any form of addiction. This meditation can be found in Gururattan's "Relax & Renew", "Sadhana Guidelines", and "Meditation as Medicine". My experience in coping with addiction, although it wasn't cigarettes in my case, brings to mind a comment of YB's, which is that it is hard to break a bad habit, but easy to replace a bad habit with a good one. Developing a sadhana, a daily practice of yoga & meditation, is certainly a key to this process, for it is the changes that comes from developing these new habits that will replace the old habits that don't serve us. For example, addiction is strongly tied in to the secretions of the upper glands (hypothalamus and pituitary) and synthesis and regulation of neurotransmitters. The medical meditation acts directly on these systems to change the balance of serotonin and cortisol (among other things). Addictive behavior with psychoactive drugs (including nicotine) is essentially an attempt by the body to regulate these chemicals, so the practice of this meditation serves as an effective substitute (not to mention safer) for the self- medication we have developed over time. I believe it is best not to focus on these old habits in any way, but to put all the focus and energy on developing the new practices which serve us well. Over time, my need to self-medicate simply started to diminish, and eventually disappeared. I feel that this approach is safer, gentler, and more loving than trying to force change that we have not prepared ourself for. It is also very important to be patient with ourselves and the changes we are going through. We took many years, perhaps many lifetimes, creating the circumstances we are in today. The powerful techniques of KY can helps us change our circumstances much faster than we created them, but still they do take time, patience, energy, and commitment. With love & many blessings, Sadhant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 It often helps to ask yourself, "what is smoking doing for me?," and listen with your heart. If you can acknowledge the underlying need, or the emotion that it is covering up, then it is usually eaiser to let go of the addiction during meditation. Seva Simran Singh Nettlelady wrote: > Greetings, > > I am currious to know when the book, "Healing Drug Abuse" will be published. > I am having trouble still with my addiction to cigarettes. I have gotten > advise from Gururattan on the SA TA NA MA mantra and I've worked with it > some, but have not made it through 40, no less, 90 days of continious > meditation. Travel, committments, demands seem to break my committment to > carry through, or perhaps it's myself working against myself. And, I just > received and am reading and learning about Breathwalk, which includes the SA > TA NA MA meditation while walking. Also, I have Ravi Singh videos, "Naval > Power" and "The Highest Step". Both are very good, but I don't always have > time to do them daily. I believe I have all the right tools, but will I > automatically cut down until I quit or should I set a date to quit, or should > I just say that's enough and grit my teeth to go through the withdrawals? > If you can give me some insights into the procedural techniques and have an > idea of what to anticipate and how I can get rid of this habit, I would > really appreciate it. > Smoking really contradicts everything I would like to be and yet I have a > weakness for it, or addiction, or seem to find some need to hang onto it. > Sat Nam, > Diane > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Hello, I would like to share that before I started doing kundalini yoga I smoked a pack of cigarrettes a day. I was 18. I underwent a major life change. I have always changed pretty easily, perhaps it is the "mutable" quality of pisces (my sun sign), but upon the meeting of my now husband and the introduction to KY he provided me with, I found what I had always been looking for. At that time I became very aware of my body. Paul and I used to hug eachother for hours and just breathe together, and this was very awakening for my consciousness. When I went to smoke a cigarette at work with a friend, I remember feeling the smoke entering my lungs, feeling a contraction and sort of deprivation of the oxygen I was coming to value and try as I may I just couldn't finish the cigarette. I offered the rest of my pack to a coworker who kept asking if I was "sure", and was happy to recieve them. I know I hadn't been smoking that long and wasn't as addicted as some people become, but I still think that doing a lot of yoga and breathing and becoming more aware of one's body can really help. I did not experience any withdrawl symptoms either. Another thing was that I changed my association. Also the substitution of a negative addiction with a positive one can really help. I have read that metaphysically the lungs relate to our sense of freedom, and often people who smoke feel it helps them to feel free, though it is really an illusion. I hope I helped a little Love Always, littlebird Leslie AKA Guru Chiter Kaur > Greetings, > > I am currious to know when the book, "Healing Drug Abuse" will be > published. > I am having trouble still with my addiction to cigarettes. I have gotten > advise from Gururattan on the SA TA NA MA mantra and I've worked with it > some, but have not made it through 40, no less, 90 days of continious > meditation. Travel, committments, demands seem to break my > committment to > carry through, or perhaps it's myself working against myself. > And, I just > received and am reading and learning about Breathwalk, which > includes the SA > TA NA MA meditation while walking. Also, I have Ravi Singh > videos, "Naval > Power" and "The Highest Step". Both are very good, but I don't > always have > time to do them daily. I believe I have all the right tools, but will I > automatically cut down until I quit or should I set a date to > quit, or should > I just say that's enough and grit my teeth to go through the > withdrawals? > If you can give me some insights into the procedural techniques > and have an > idea of what to anticipate and how I can get rid of this habit, I would > really appreciate it. > Smoking really contradicts everything I would like to be and yet I have a > weakness for it, or addiction, or seem to find some need to hang > onto it. > Sat Nam, > Diane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Sat Nam everyone, I thought I would add my piece to this topic as well. I smoked for 24 years. I was an Air Traffic Controller for 7 of those years and smoked up to 3 packs a day while I was in that profession. You might say my addiction was about as severe as it gets, and it was extremely hard for me to quit. I tried acupuncture, hypnosis, cold turkey, meditation, the nicotine gum products....just about everything. I could feel that my body, especially my lungs were beginning to suffer irreparable damage from this habit, but I just couldn't seem to kick it. My Dad finally provided me with the lesson I needed by having a lung removed from cancer. I spent a month with him while he was in intensive care...it was a meditation I wouldn't like to repeat and it gave me the strength I needed to finally quit. Of course, this alone wouldn't have been enough had I not already been receptive to the idea that I needed to quit and come to a point in my life where the love of my self was becoming more powerful than my destructive habits. What I would like to say to others who are suffering from this addiction is that in my experience 2 things seem to be paramount in importance. The first is loving yourself, and realizing that smoking is slow suicide and the antithesis of loving yourself. The second is knowing with complete and utter certainty that you do not want to smoke anymore. Ever! Once those two things are clear in your mind you will be able to quit and stay off. Had I had the benefit of KY earlier (I've been smoke free for 15 years now and a student of KY for 2 months) I think I would have been able to quit more easily, but I still think those two elements have to be in place. I hope this helps those of you who need it. Many Blessings, Bob Knight "Blinded by Delight"....Jim Snyder littlebird108 [littlebird108] Monday, July 23, 2001 8:39 AM Kundaliniyoga RE: Drug addictions Hello, I would like to share that before I started doing kundalini yoga I smoked a pack of cigarrettes a day. I was 18. I underwent a major life change. I have always changed pretty easily, perhaps it is the "mutable" quality of pisces (my sun sign), but upon the meeting of my now husband and the introduction to KY he provided me with, I found what I had always been looking for. At that time I became very aware of my body. Paul and I used to hug eachother for hours and just breathe together, and this was very awakening for my consciousness. When I went to smoke a cigarette at work with a friend, I remember feeling the smoke entering my lungs, feeling a contraction and sort of deprivation of the oxygen I was coming to value and try as I may I just couldn't finish the cigarette. I offered the rest of my pack to a coworker who kept asking if I was "sure", and was happy to recieve them. I know I hadn't been smoking that long and wasn't as addicted as some people become, but I still think that doing a lot of yoga and breathing and becoming more aware of one's body can really help. I did not experience any withdrawl symptoms either. Another thing was that I changed my association. Also the substitution of a negative addiction with a positive one can really help. I have read that metaphysically the lungs relate to our sense of freedom, and often people who smoke feel it helps them to feel free, though it is really an illusion. I hope I helped a little Love Always, littlebird Leslie AKA Guru Chiter Kaur > Greetings, > > I am currious to know when the book, "Healing Drug Abuse" will be > published. > I am having trouble still with my addiction to cigarettes. I have gotten > advise from Gururattan on the SA TA NA MA mantra and I've worked with it > some, but have not made it through 40, no less, 90 days of continious > meditation. Travel, committments, demands seem to break my > committment to > carry through, or perhaps it's myself working against myself. > And, I just > received and am reading and learning about Breathwalk, which > includes the SA > TA NA MA meditation while walking. Also, I have Ravi Singh > videos, "Naval > Power" and "The Highest Step". Both are very good, but I don't > always have > time to do them daily. I believe I have all the right tools, but will I > automatically cut down until I quit or should I set a date to > quit, or should > I just say that's enough and grit my teeth to go through the > withdrawals? > If you can give me some insights into the procedural techniques > and have an > idea of what to anticipate and how I can get rid of this habit, I would > really appreciate it. > Smoking really contradicts everything I would like to be and yet I have a > weakness for it, or addiction, or seem to find some need to hang > onto it. > Sat Nam, > Diane > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" - Yogi Bhajan You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to Kundaliniyoga NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! WEB SITE: kundalini yoga KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from kundalini yogaclasses.html Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. 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Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Dear Bob, Thank your for sharing your experience. It will be very beneficial to many. Blessing to you and your Dad. Sat Nam, Samantha - "Bob Knight" <rak <Kundaliniyoga> Monday, July 23, 2001 3:23 PM RE: Drug addictions > Sat Nam everyone, I thought I would add my piece to this topic as well. I > smoked for 24 years. I was an Air Traffic Controller for 7 of those years > and smoked up to 3 packs a day while I was in that profession. You might > say my addiction was about as severe as it gets, and it was extremely hard > for me to quit. I tried acupuncture, hypnosis, cold turkey, meditation, the > nicotine gum products....just about everything. I could feel that my body, > especially my lungs were beginning to suffer irreparable damage from this > habit, but I just couldn't seem to kick it. My Dad finally provided me with > the lesson I needed by having a lung removed from cancer. I spent a month > with him while he was in intensive care...it was a meditation I wouldn't > like to repeat and it gave me the strength I needed to finally quit. Of > course, this alone wouldn't have been enough had I not already been > receptive to the idea that I needed to quit and come to a point in my life > where the love of my self was becoming more powerful than my destructive > habits. > > What I would like to say to others who are suffering from this addiction is > that in my experience 2 things seem to be paramount in importance. The first > is loving yourself, and realizing that smoking is slow suicide and the > antithesis of loving yourself. The second is knowing with complete and utter > certainty that you do not want to smoke anymore. Ever! Once those two > things are clear in your mind you will be able to quit and stay off. > > Had I had the benefit of KY earlier (I've been smoke free for 15 years now > and a student of KY for 2 months) I think I would have been able to quit > more easily, but I still think those two elements have to be in place. I > hope this helps those of you who need it. > > Many Blessings, > Bob Knight > > "Blinded by Delight"....Jim Snyder > > > littlebird108 [littlebird108] > Monday, July 23, 2001 8:39 AM > Kundaliniyoga > RE: Drug addictions > > > Hello, > > I would like to share that before I started doing kundalini yoga I smoked a > pack of cigarrettes a day. I was 18. I underwent a major life change. I > have always changed pretty easily, perhaps it is the "mutable" quality of > pisces (my sun sign), but upon the meeting of my now husband and the > introduction to KY he provided me with, I found what I had always been > looking for. At that time I became very aware of my body. Paul and I used > to hug eachother for hours and just breathe together, and this was very > awakening for my consciousness. When I went to smoke a cigarette at work > with a friend, I remember feeling the smoke entering my lungs, feeling a > contraction and sort of deprivation of the oxygen I was coming to value and > try as I may I just couldn't finish the cigarette. I offered the rest of my > pack to a coworker who kept asking if I was "sure", and was happy to recieve > them. I know I hadn't been smoking that long and wasn't as addicted as some > people become, but I still think that doing a lot of yoga and breathing and > becoming more aware of one's body can really help. I did not experience any > withdrawl symptoms either. Another thing was that I changed my association. > Also the substitution of a negative addiction with a positive one can really > help. > > I have read that metaphysically the lungs relate to our sense of freedom, > and often people who smoke feel it helps them to feel free, though it is > really an illusion. > > I hope I helped a little > > Love Always, > littlebird Leslie > AKA Guru Chiter Kaur > > > Greetings, > > > > I am currious to know when the book, "Healing Drug Abuse" will be > > published. > > I am having trouble still with my addiction to cigarettes. I have gotten > > advise from Gururattan on the SA TA NA MA mantra and I've worked with it > > some, but have not made it through 40, no less, 90 days of continious > > meditation. Travel, committments, demands seem to break my > > committment to > > carry through, or perhaps it's myself working against myself. > > And, I just > > received and am reading and learning about Breathwalk, which > > includes the SA > > TA NA MA meditation while walking. Also, I have Ravi Singh > > videos, "Naval > > Power" and "The Highest Step". Both are very good, but I don't > > always have > > time to do them daily. I believe I have all the right tools, but will I > > automatically cut down until I quit or should I set a date to > > quit, or should > > I just say that's enough and grit my teeth to go through the > > withdrawals? > > If you can give me some insights into the procedural techniques > > and have an > > idea of what to anticipate and how I can get rid of this habit, I would > > really appreciate it. > > Smoking really contradicts everything I would like to be and yet I have a > > weakness for it, or addiction, or seem to find some need to hang > > onto it. > > Sat Nam, > > Diane > > > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My > Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & > Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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