CD & Video Suggestions

[Guest guest]

Sat nam...

 

I am interested in the CD that was mentioned on this list not long ago. Someone

wrote that it seemed to make the walls of the home echo with a wonderful chant.

Please be so kind as to refresh my memory with the title of this CD or any

others that are especially nice. I seem to have an attraction to deep

vibrations lately.

 

Also, I have a friend who is asking many questions about the practice of yoga.

I would like to purchase a video for her as a birthday present. I would also

like her to get off to a good start. She seems bored and not entirely happy

when we talk. I also have to be careful not to choose anything very radical.

She is quite conservative in her views. Any suggestions???

 

By the way, I am enjoying and expanding my own practice....almost daily. I am

starting to be aware of the experiences and vibrations staying with me

throughout my day. Quite empowering.

 

Once again, thank you,

Heidi

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi

 

It was Ra Ma Da Sa by Gurunam.

Available from the Yoga Technology store.

 

 

As for other possible CDs, every one has a representative Real Audio clip

which you can listen to while making up your mind.

 

There are a range of videos available there too, mainly by Ravi Singh - I am

sure that others on here who have used them can advise you on which would be

most suitable.

 

Sat Nam!

Gordon

 

"Heidi B. Sanner" <hbsanner

 

> Sat nam...

>

> I am interested in the CD that was mentioned on this list not long ago.

Someone wrote that it seemed to make the walls of the home echo with a

wonderful chant. Please be so kind as to refresh my memory with the title

of this CD or any others that are especially nice. I seem to have an

attraction to deep vibrations lately.

>

> Also, I have a friend who is asking many questions about the practice of

yoga. I would like to purchase a video for her as a birthday present. I

would also like her to get off to a good start. She seems bored and not

entirely happy when we talk. I also have to be careful not to choose

anything very radical. She is quite conservative in her views. Any

suggestions???

>

> By the way, I am enjoying and expanding my own practice....almost daily.

I am starting to be aware of the experiences and vibrations staying with me

throughout my day. Quite empowering.

>

> Once again, thank you,

> Heidi

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Heidi,

 

Conquering Depression video is easy and AM PM has 2 1/2 hour sets.

 

Sat Nam,

 

GururattanKaur

[Guest guest]

I am interested in this as well but I seem to have deleted the original

question. I would appreciate it if someone would post something again about

this video and where to obtain it.

Mary (new member)

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mary,

 

The videos are available on www.yogatech.com.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

[Guest guest]

Thank you. Regarding your question about whether people have been doing the

zone meditation and how it has helped, I can say that it does indeed work. I

have also had great results with the breathing exercise for depression that you

gave in lesson 16.

 

In my case, I have just now returned to the practice of meditation and it was

through a process of surrender. I have been very attached to depression and

trauma for more than 5 years and last week I came to a point of collapse. The

pain and hopelessness were so overwhelming that I was finally able to surrender,

to see. This for me has always been the great difficulty of depression, that

the darkness is such that even remembering former times that meditation helped

me (when depression was not a factor) is not enough to bring me back. Because I

have had episodic depression for most of my life I have observed this process

over and over. For some reason even though I have had enormous benefits from

meditation many times in my life I lose touch with its power and meaning when I

sink into depression. Continuing to practice at those times has always been

futile and I have ended up giving it up. It's difficult to describe, but it's

as if there is no longer a connection. There is no sense of anything at all

that is good or true, not even the peace of being in the moment, for the mind

runs rampant at those times with negative, horrible thoughts. The entire

process is frustrating and leads only to further self hatred due to lack of

ability to do even simple focusing. It very much feeds into the depression.

 

I am very optimistic about Kundalini and hope that the benefits I derive from it

are enough to keep me from sinking into that place again or that if I do they

will be powerful enough to bring me back. So far it has always taken some kind

of massive inner cataclysm that has brought me back to a point of being able to

connect again. It would be nice if that didn't ever have to happen again.

Although my previous depressions never came close to lasting as long as this one

has one moment in that state is far too much.

 

I have a question about something else. In the past when I have come up from

depression it's as if all the time I was asleep an enormous amount of inner work

had been taking place on some subconscious level - I emerged stronger, wiser,

more compassionate. I wonder if there is a spiritual reason for this. I have

an idea that I think it might be but I am just curious if you have ever heard of

this kind of thing and if so do you attribute anything meaningful to it?

 

Thank you for your help.

Mary

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mary, lots of love to you...couldnt help from reading

your story and in the process relating it to myself. Just

want to send you this message to send you some

encouragement and of course...ENERGY! *S. I know how

depression can be, it is a monster that just keeps eating

you alive till there is nothing left. Of course there IS

something left, but our mind during depression is so

possessed by thought and emotion that it cannot SEE. I

came to a point where I could no longer take the depression

(yes I was suicidal - but I figured whats the point of

killing my body?! i'm already dead), my mind suspected in a

little corner that tragedy/sadness is not the ending to all

of this. In my times of severe sadness I actually had a

unique spiritual dream, and THAT didnt even amaze me.

 

>"This for me has

> always been the great difficulty of depression, that the

> darkness is such that even remembering former times that

> meditation helped me (when depression was not a factor)

> is not enough to bring me back."

 

The mind is a tricky machine, one needs to learn how to

operate it. Refering back to the past is not enough to

motivate it, it needs its fuel from RIGHT NOW, at this

present moment, it needs REAL fuel, not the illusive one

from our thoughts, past or future. Inside all that pain

your mind is trying to call out to you, (and as silly as

this analogy may seem) take me to the gas station and pump

me up with something REAL, not fantasies/ilusions, give me

the ENERGY I need so I can work my systems right and

cleanse you of all this brooding on thoughts and emotions

of past/future. It has been recent since that little

corner of my mind where it suspected the Light had to be

REAL ("God" MUST BE experienced) became bigger and bigger

and now it is following the process of cleansing it from

all that build-up of negativity, so many years of

fantasizing in my head leading me to cry in the end. THe

cleansing process is not an overnite process! My psyche

keeps fighting back all the time, it wants me to fall, my

emotion wants to feed on me so bad! And gaining peace of

mind can be a challenge, oh yeah. All this negativity

inside of me is being thoroughly cleansed slowly, I'm

starting to learn more about the mind and its

functions...it's tricks, it's voice, it's intuition. The

best cure for depression that I can give is introspection,

all that negative baggage is just sitting there in your

brain, fight it and empty it! you must or it will pile up

high and make you weak to the bone. I'm sending you all

the energy to help you fight this monster. It's illusive

anyway! pump up that brain with fuel so it runs with

ENERGY, it SEES reality, and it starts to empty all that

"bad stuff" inside you. And the question about your dream

I believe that your pyche is being cleansed. I still dream

about my fears but what changed in my dreams was my

emotion...I'm in the dream but I sense the calmness within

myself, I dont cry or I'm afraid anymore, I believe these

are tests. Of course this is all a progression, I'm giving

myself patience and will-power to take life DAY by DAY,

thoughts of past and future will create chaos, will trigger

paranoia, and kill u lastly with emotion (talking from

experience). One daily mental vitamin is the MANTRA, I

believe this is the best technique to supress thought and

gain the calmness, the happiness that your mind needs.

This is all about self-effort, you have to KNOW that you

WANT to get better, you WANT to fill yourself of positive

energy, you WANT to be happy. The right time will come

when you learn to surrender too, when I was depressed I

didnt want to be happy, i WANTED to be the way i was, but

with the inevitable progression of time things pile up, one

breaks down, one finally dies inside, then slowly "In the

darkness the eye begins to see" (a poem by Theodore

Roethke), the lights go ON, the negativity starts to

dissolve...NOW you have surrendered, NOW you will surrender

your mind to peace and calmness. The key is surrender, for

even in times of depression that EVENTUALLY opens your

eyes.

 

I send you Light, Love, and PEace!

Maria.

 

 

 

 

--- ca95965 <ca95965 wrote:

> Thank you. Regarding your question about whether people

> have been doing the zone meditation and how it has

> helped, I can say that it does indeed work. I have also

> had great results with the breathing exercise for

> depression that you gave in lesson 16.

>

> In my case, I have just now returned to the practice of

> meditation and it was through a process of surrender. I

> have been very attached to depression and trauma for more

> than 5 years and last week I came to a point of collapse.

> The pain and hopelessness were so overwhelming that I

> was finally able to surrender, to see. This for me has

> always been the great difficulty of depression, that the

> darkness is such that even remembering former times that

> meditation helped me (when depression was not a factor)

> is not enough to bring me back. Because I have had

> episodic depression for most of my life I have observed

> this process over and over. For some reason even though

> I have had enormous benefits from meditation many times

> in my life I lose touch with its power and meaning when I

> sink into depression. Continuing to practice at those

> times has always been futile and I have ended up giving

> it up. It's difficult to describe, but it's as if there

> is no longer a connection. There is no sense of anything

> at all that is good or true, not even the peace of being

> in the moment, for the mind runs rampant at those times

> with negative, horrible thoughts. The entire process is

> frustrating and leads only to further self hatred due to

> lack of ability to do even simple focusing. It very much

> feeds into the depression.

>

> I am very optimistic about Kundalini and hope that the

> benefits I derive from it are enough to keep me from

> sinking into that place again or that if I do they will

> be powerful enough to bring me back. So far it has

> always taken some kind of massive inner cataclysm that

> has brought me back to a point of being able to connect

> again. It would be nice if that didn't ever have to

> happen again. Although my previous depressions never

> came close to lasting as long as this one has one moment

> in that state is far too much.

>

> I have a question about something else. In the past when

> I have come up from depression it's as if all the time I

> was asleep an enormous amount of inner work had been

> taking place on some subconscious level - I emerged

> stronger, wiser, more compassionate. I wonder if there

> is a spiritual reason for this. I have an idea that I

> think it might be but I am just curious if you have ever

> heard of this kind of thing and if so do you attribute

> anything meaningful to it?

>

> Thank you for your help.

> Mary

> -

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Maria. I will keep plugging along. As I said, it's already helped me a

lot. Mary

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mgb

Kundaliniyoga

Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:59 PM

Re: CD & Video Suggestions

 

 

Hi Mary, lots of love to you...couldnt help from reading

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mary,

 

Thanks for sharing your experiences with the zone meditation and the

breathing. It is amazing how these techniques work if we just practice them.

And they work much faster than they did 20 years ago.

 

> Thank you. Regarding your question about whether people have been doing

the zone meditation and how it has helped, I can say that it does indeed

work. I have also had great results with the breathing exercise for

depression that you gave in lesson 16.

 

In the past when I have come up from depression it's as if all the time I

was asleep an enormous amount of inner work had been taking place on some

subconscious level - I emerged stronger, wiser, more compassionate.

 

This is true. Alot of things happen a a very deep level

 

I wonder if there is a spiritual reason for this.

 

Cleansing and working off karma could be two reasons.

 

The key is if you feel beter, clearer and happier afterwards. Or feel other

benefits. You did which is an indication something was happening. We work

at many levels.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur