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Hi Everyone,

 

I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important

is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise

anyhow if you are doing KY daily? Should sex be limited to a certain

length of time and/or to once a week, month or year? I also read

somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually ASSIST

in raising the kundalini. Is there a source for explicit info about

this? And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in

terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)? Most of us

heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe it

is. If it is I would like to know why. I also heard that having sex

can unblock the lower chakras so that could be a good thing, right?

 

Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know

more about using it wisely. Is there anything two people can to

together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the

kundalini? Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other

readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying

because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it

is. Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it

over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things? Do

you think men have more of a problem with this than women?

 

Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have

heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more

consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do

have a friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested

in having sex very often at all.

 

I would like to know how others have/are dealing with this issue.

 

Thanks for your help,

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The short answer is sex not celebacy. Your questions are good and the full

treatment would require a book. Not a bad idea.

 

KY is one of the few yogic paths that allows sex. Many of the hatha paths

require celebacy.

 

 

> I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important

> is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise

anyhow if you are doing KY daily?

 

The question is how you use your kundalini energy which is also related to

sexual energy. You can actually facilitate the rising of the kundalini

during sex if you use rootlock to raise the energy to the higher chakras.

 

Should sex be limited to a certain length of time and/or to once a week,

month or year?

 

Yogi Bhajan has said that if we really did sex right and both partners

raised their energy, we would be satisfied for several weeks.

 

I also read somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually

ASSIST in raising the kundalini.

 

This is true. The taoist books are good references on this.

 

And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in

> terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)?

 

The male-female energies do not get balanced.

 

Most of us heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe

it is. If it is I would like to know why.

 

It is not that it is wrong. Lost of semen for a man dissipates energy that

takes about 2 days to replace.

 

I also heard that having sex can unblock the lower chakras so that could be

a good thing, right?

 

Yes.

>

> Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know more

about using it wisely.

 

Men need to learn to reduce loss of semen. Depends on the age. Yogi Bhajan

does not recommend as do the taoists that men never ejaculate. YB says that

this practice can cause problems in the prostrate.

 

Is there anything two people can to

> together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the kundalini?

 

Yes. Use rootlock and breathing.

 

Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other

> readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying

> because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it is.

 

Sat kriya and chair pose are for this. This is why we do KY, to channel or

energy upward.

 

Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it

> over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things?

 

Do KY and overtime your energy will rise.

 

Do you think men have more of a problem with this than women?

 

Men and women work completely differently. Women do not lose energy in

orgasm. They relax and expand and get in a better mood.

 

 

> Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have

> heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more

consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do have a

friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested in having

sex very often at all.

 

These generalizations are often true.

 

There are some couples on the list that can offer more information I am

sure.

 

Sat Nam,

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Men need to learn to reduce loss of semen. Depends on the age.

I am a young man.How should I learn the loss of semen?

What is more,it there any good exercise I can use tto stop the habit of

masturbation?I do it almost evry day and I REALLY can not resist the

temtation!:-(

Thank you in advance fr your help.

Blessings and Lots-of-Love,

 

-

Re: Sex or Celibacy?

 

> The short answer is sex not celebacy. Your questions are good and the full

> treatment would require a book. Not a bad idea.

>

> KY is one of the few yogic paths that allows sex. Many of the hatha paths

> require celebacy.

>

>

> > I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important

> > is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise

> anyhow if you are doing KY daily?

>

> The question is how you use your kundalini energy which is also related to

> sexual energy. You can actually facilitate the rising of the kundalini

> during sex if you use rootlock to raise the energy to the higher chakras.

>

> Should sex be limited to a certain length of time and/or to once a week,

> month or year?

>

> Yogi Bhajan has said that if we really did sex right and both partners

> raised their energy, we would be satisfied for several weeks.

>

> I also read somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually

> ASSIST in raising the kundalini.

>

> This is true. The taoist books are good references on this.

>

> And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in

> > terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)?

>

> The male-female energies do not get balanced.

>

> Most of us heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe

> it is. If it is I would like to know why.

>

> It is not that it is wrong. Lost of semen for a man dissipates energy that

> takes about 2 days to replace.

>

> I also heard that having sex can unblock the lower chakras so that could be

> a good thing, right?

>

> Yes.

> >

> > Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know more

> about using it wisely.

>

> Men need to learn to reduce loss of semen. Depends on the age. Yogi Bhajan

> does not recommend as do the taoists that men never ejaculate. YB says that

> this practice can cause problems in the prostrate.

>

> Is there anything two people can to

> > together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the kundalini?

>

> Yes. Use rootlock and breathing.

>

> Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other

> > readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying

> > because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it is.

>

> Sat kriya and chair pose are for this. This is why we do KY, to channel or

> energy upward.

>

> Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it

> > over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things?

>

> Do KY and overtime your energy will rise.

>

> Do you think men have more of a problem with this than women?

>

> Men and women work completely differently. Women do not lose energy in

> orgasm. They relax and expand and get in a better mood.

>

>

> > Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have

> > heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more

> consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do have a

> friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested in having

> sex very often at all.

>

> These generalizations are often true.

>

> There are some couples on the list that can offer more information I am

> sure.

>

> Sat Nam,

>

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

 

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As a man, and as a former young man, I can relate. What helps a great deal these

days are certain exercises for male potency. They are in the marriage

manuals, the second volume. Maybe you have access, if not, let me know.

Basically, my brother, when our nervous system gets overloaded by our sexual

drive and

our mind starts runnin' off, we're sunk. What these exercises do is lessen the

tensions and tightnesses in our hips, back and chest. and allow an easier

flowing of that energy through our system. This is really wild stuff. You can

get so completely ripped on this if you can just ride the tiger. Another

technique is to simply not scratch the itch. Try simply breathing, not reacting

and allowing the "feeling" to become a total body experience. Just feel

completely and utterly horny as a "box of rabbits". Enjoy it, let it merge with

every point in the cosmos, if you want to go that far. Smile, breath and close

your eyes. It's a weakness in the nervous system that doesn't allow us to

consider other possibilities rather than the same old, same old.

Dharam,

P.S. Pulling the pud creates a pressure in the gray matter of the brain. Yogiji

teaches that there must be another person there to "absorb" the energy. He

goes so far as to say it is better to be with another man than to masturbate.

 

 

> Dear Gururattan K.Khalsa

> Men need to learn to reduce loss of semen. Depends on the age.

> I am a young man.How should I learn the loss of semen?

> What is more,it there any good exercise I can use tto stop the habit of

masturbation?I do it almost evry day and I REALLY can not resist the

temtation!:-(

> Thank you in advance fr your help.

> Blessings and Lots-of-Love,

> -

> "Gururattan K.Khalsa" <rattanak

> <Kundaliniyoga>

> Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:30 PM

> Re: Sex or Celibacy?

>

> > Dear Steve,

> >

> > The short answer is sex not celebacy. Your questions are good and the full

> > treatment would require a book. Not a bad idea.

> >

> > KY is one of the few yogic paths that allows sex. Many of the hatha paths

> > require celebacy.

> >

> >

> > > I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important

> > > is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise

> > anyhow if you are doing KY daily?

> >

> > The question is how you use your kundalini energy which is also related to

> > sexual energy. You can actually facilitate the rising of the kundalini

> > during sex if you use rootlock to raise the energy to the higher chakras.

> >

> > Should sex be limited to a certain length of time and/or to once a week,

> > month or year?

> >

> > Yogi Bhajan has said that if we really did sex right and both partners

> > raised their energy, we would be satisfied for several weeks.

> >

> > I also read somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually

> > ASSIST in raising the kundalini.

> >

> > This is true. The taoist books are good references on this.

> >

> > And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in

> > > terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)?

> >

> > The male-female energies do not get balanced.

> >

> > Most of us heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe

> > it is. If it is I would like to know why.

> >

> > It is not that it is wrong. Lost of semen for a man dissipates energy that

> > takes about 2 days to replace.

> >

> > I also heard that having sex can unblock the lower chakras so that could be

> > a good thing, right?

> >

> > Yes.

> > >

> > > Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know more

> > about using it wisely.

> >

> > Men need to learn to reduce loss of semen. Depends on the age. Yogi Bhajan

> > does not recommend as do the taoists that men never ejaculate. YB says that

> > this practice can cause problems in the prostrate.

> >

> > Is there anything two people can to

> > > together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the kundalini?

> >

> > Yes. Use rootlock and breathing.

> >

> > Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other

> > > readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying

> > > because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it is.

> >

> > Sat kriya and chair pose are for this. This is why we do KY, to channel or

> > energy upward.

> >

> > Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it

> > > over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things?

> >

> > Do KY and overtime your energy will rise.

> >

> > Do you think men have more of a problem with this than women?

> >

> > Men and women work completely differently. Women do not lose energy in

> > orgasm. They relax and expand and get in a better mood.

> >

> >

> > > Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have

> > > heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more

> > consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do have a

> > friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested in having

> > sex very often at all.

> >

> > These generalizations are often true.

> >

> > There are some couples on the list that can offer more information I am

> > sure.

> >

> > Sat Nam,

> >

> > Gururattan Kaur

> >

> >

> > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> > - Yogi Bhajan

> >

> > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> > Kundaliniyoga

> > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

> >

> > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> > kundalini yogaclasses.html

> >

> > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga &

Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

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>

> KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> kundalini yogaclasses.html

>

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In a message dated 8/22/2001 5:57:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

gordon writes:

>

> Try Venus Lock, hands behind your neck.

>

 

if i was a guy.... and didnt know much about KY, i would think

that a Venus lock with hands behind your neck sounds rather kinky... hehe

;)

 

finding the thread interesting... i know in the past there have been posts

about child birth, womens "monthly visits" and such so i think something

like this really balances that energy off.... the men have endured alot of

that "women talk"

 

its also very interesting to note how different religious cultures view

sex and masturbation... whether its "evil" or satanic in one, or used to

build up and

preserve energy in another... all cultures view its results as a "powerful

force" that has to be tamed and handled in one way or another....

 

interesting....

Sat Nam

Sat Purkh Kaur

 

 

 

 

 

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> What is more,it there any good exercise I can use tto stop the habit of

masturbation?I do it almost evry day and I REALLY can not resist the

temtation!:-(

 

Try Venus Lock, hands behind your neck.

:-)

 

Sat Nam!

Gordon

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I don't think men realize how painful it is for women - because men are "out

there" they can at least touch themselves but a woman's desire is to be

penetrated and the anguish when that doesn't happen is more then some women

can bear.

 

Peace

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Sat Nam,

 

My question is why do men seem to have it so much tougher when it comes to

sexuality? I haven't read anything about orgasm not being recommended for

women aside from general energy raising reasons, which sex can be

potentially helpful for. So if a man and woman were together having sex it

would be ideal for the woman to have many orgasms (which I read in the

marriage manual) and for the man to ejaculate as little as possible. Is

that a double standard or what?

 

Love Always,

littlebird Leslie

AKA Guru Chiter Kaur

 

>

> Dharam Singh [dharam]

> Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:46 AM

> Kundaliniyoga

> Re: Sex or Celibacy?

>

>

> The kriya I made mention of is also in "Sexuality and

> Spirituality" by Gururattan Kaur, page 41. It's called Guruka

> Kriya. The first exercise is

> the "Silver Bullet." No more "running around the block", or cold

> showers or "lifting bumpers" (it sort of works). Do that first exercise

> regularly, as in every morning and evening and whenever you are

> feeling that itch. It will release tensions in the pelvic bowl. A

> few months ago

> the "urge to merge" was so strong that I was just tossing and

> turning in my bed. In my resolve not to "pull the pud", I tried

> that "silver bullet"

> exercise and the experience was nearly orgasmic. I just sort of

> melted and it was very pleasurable. I think women have it easier

> because their

> genitalia is located inside their bodies and that allows for much

> more integration of these energies. Whereas us guys are really

> out there on our

> own. Anatomically and psychologically we really need to be

> "contained" and we are impotent without the feminine aspect in our life.

> All in all, sexuality is our path home. It's a gift and our right

> to "Rightness" in life. Use it well.

> Dharam

>

> supertriangel wrote:

>

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important

> > is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise

> > anyhow if you are doing KY daily? Should sex be limited to a certain

> > length of time and/or to once a week, month or year? I also read

> > somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually ASSIST

> > in raising the kundalini. Is there a source for explicit info about

> > this? And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in

> > terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)? Most of us

> > heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe it

> > is. If it is I would like to know why. I also heard that having sex

> > can unblock the lower chakras so that could be a good thing, right?

> >

> > Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know

> > more about using it wisely. Is there anything two people can to

> > together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the

> > kundalini? Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other

> > readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying

> > because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it

> > is. Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it

> > over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things? Do

> > you think men have more of a problem with this than women?

> >

> > Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have

> > heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more

> > consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do

> > have a friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested

> > in having sex very often at all.

> >

> > I would like to know how others have/are dealing with this issue.

> >

> > Thanks for your help,

> >

> > Steve

> >

> > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> > - Yogi Bhajan

> >

> > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member

> Center (My Groups), or send mail to

> > Kundaliniyoga

> > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

> >

> > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> > kundalini yogaclasses.html

> >

> > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on

> Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

 

>

> Your use of is subject to

 

 

 

"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

- Yogi Bhajan

 

You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

Kundaliniyoga

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WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

 

KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

kundalini yogaclasses.html

 

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The kriya I made mention of is also in "Sexuality and Spirituality" by

Gururattan Kaur, page 41. It's called Guruka Kriya. The first exercise is

the "Silver Bullet." No more "running around the block", or cold showers or

"lifting bumpers" (it sort of works). Do that first exercise

regularly, as in every morning and evening and whenever you are feeling that

itch. It will release tensions in the pelvic bowl. A few months ago

the "urge to merge" was so strong that I was just tossing and turning in my bed.

In my resolve not to "pull the pud", I tried that "silver bullet"

exercise and the experience was nearly orgasmic. I just sort of melted and it

was very pleasurable. I think women have it easier because their

genitalia is located inside their bodies and that allows for much more

integration of these energies. Whereas us guys are really out there on our

own. Anatomically and psychologically we really need to be "contained" and we

are impotent without the feminine aspect in our life.

All in all, sexuality is our path home. It's a gift and our right to "Rightness"

in life. Use it well.

Dharam

 

supertriangel wrote:

 

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important

> is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise

> anyhow if you are doing KY daily? Should sex be limited to a certain

> length of time and/or to once a week, month or year? I also read

> somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually ASSIST

> in raising the kundalini. Is there a source for explicit info about

> this? And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in

> terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)? Most of us

> heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe it

> is. If it is I would like to know why. I also heard that having sex

> can unblock the lower chakras so that could be a good thing, right?

>

> Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know

> more about using it wisely. Is there anything two people can to

> together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the

> kundalini? Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other

> readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying

> because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it

> is. Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it

> over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things? Do

> you think men have more of a problem with this than women?

>

> Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have

> heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more

> consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do

> have a friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested

> in having sex very often at all.

>

> I would like to know how others have/are dealing with this issue.

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

> Steve

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> Kundaliniyoga

> NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

>

> KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> kundalini yogaclasses.html

>

> Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga &

Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

>

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Kundaliniyoga, Dharam Singh <dharam@s...> wrote:

 

It's called Guruka Kriya. The first exercise is the "Silver Bullet."

 

Thank you. Could someone explain HOW to do this Silver Bullet

Kriya and how long it should be done. Do you do it daily or just

when you need to move the sexual energies?

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SAT NAM ALL

 

Ok - Now what about "wet dreams"? Apologies if this is a slightly crude way

of putting it - words fail me at the moment:)

 

Thanx for a superb group!!

 

SAT NAM

 

Patwant Singh

 

 

Dharam Singh [dharam]

Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:46 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Re: Sex or Celibacy?

 

 

The kriya I made mention of is also in "Sexuality and Spirituality" by

Gururattan Kaur, page 41. It's called Guruka Kriya. The first exercise is

the "Silver Bullet." No more "running around the block", or cold showers or

"lifting bumpers" (it sort of works). Do that first exercise

regularly, as in every morning and evening and whenever you are feeling that

itch. It will release tensions in the pelvic bowl. A few months ago

the "urge to merge" was so strong that I was just tossing and turning in my

bed. In my resolve not to "pull the pud", I tried that "silver bullet"

exercise and the experience was nearly orgasmic. I just sort of melted and

it was very pleasurable. I think women have it easier because their

genitalia is located inside their bodies and that allows for much more

integration of these energies. Whereas us guys are really out there on our

own. Anatomically and psychologically we really need to be "contained" and

we are impotent without the feminine aspect in our life.

All in all, sexuality is our path home. It's a gift and our right to

"Rightness" in life. Use it well.

Dharam

 

supertriangel wrote:

 

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important

> is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise

> anyhow if you are doing KY daily? Should sex be limited to a certain

> length of time and/or to once a week, month or year? I also read

> somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually ASSIST

> in raising the kundalini. Is there a source for explicit info about

> this? And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in

> terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)? Most of us

> heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe it

> is. If it is I would like to know why. I also heard that having sex

> can unblock the lower chakras so that could be a good thing, right?

>

> Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know

> more about using it wisely. Is there anything two people can to

> together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the

> kundalini? Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other

> readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying

> because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it

> is. Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it

> over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things? Do

> you think men have more of a problem with this than women?

>

> Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have

> heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more

> consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do

> have a friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested

> in having sex very often at all.

>

> I would like to know how others have/are dealing with this issue.

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

> Steve

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I have wet dreams more often when I am run down emotionally or have over

extended my self, though. I also will have them when I have sublimated my

feelings of arousal to the point where I am not even aware of them. That's where

my need for release ends up coming out in my dreams. It's a

release, no doubt and I have to say it feels good but I'd rather own those

feelings in daytime consciousness and have fullfilling sex or at least

expressions of it.

Maybe I'll move to Jamaica, Puerto Rico or Greece where such expressions are

more culturally exceptable, albeit "sexist". Sometimes simply talking

about it and having an open-hearted rapport (tears and laughter included) can

make all the difference. Ya gotta express yourself. Even if all you

say is Wahe Guru.

I once was around Yogiji when he was waiting for students to settle in at a

course in NYC. There were some very beautiful women there in leotards

and whatnot. I was sitting watching it all and watching Yogiji watch it all. Now

here I am thinking "you gotta be noticing all this, right?" Well,

when he finally spoke, the first words out of his mouth were, and I quote "God

makes us all beautiful, but some he takes a little extra time"

BAM! That's my teacher! He acknowledged the obvious.

 

Still wrestling with "The Bull"!

Dharam

 

TAMMALOO69 wrote:

 

> wet dreams are natural. we seem to forget we are animials and sex is a

> priority for health.

>

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Regarding conservation of resources and "double standards". If I can transmute

the energy I deserve my orgasm. Having a loving experience of the

energy where it moves my emotions and circulates throughout my body and being is

a rich experience. I need to do that before I lose my seed

because with each orgasm a man loses his drive while a woman can actually get

more and more arroused until she actually just needs to sleep. No

double standard. Man loses nutrients but if he does it right he gets a little of

her "Yin Essence"( and she gets some of his "Yang Essence"). He

(I) feels full of life and ready to take on life. Man needs that exchange.

Dharam

 

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> Sat Nam,

>

> My question is why do men seem to have it so much tougher when it comes to

> sexuality? I haven't read anything about orgasm not being recommended for

> women aside from general energy raising reasons, which sex can be

> potentially helpful for. So if a man and woman were together having sex it

> would be ideal for the woman to have many orgasms (which I read in the

> marriage manual) and for the man to ejaculate as little as possible. Is

> that a double standard or what?

>

> Love Always,

> littlebird Leslie

> AKA Guru Chiter Kaur

>

> >

> > Dharam Singh [dharam]

> > Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:46 AM

> > Kundaliniyoga

> > Re: Sex or Celibacy?

> >

> >

> > The kriya I made mention of is also in "Sexuality and

> > Spirituality" by Gururattan Kaur, page 41. It's called Guruka

> > Kriya. The first exercise is

> > the "Silver Bullet." No more "running around the block", or cold

> > showers or "lifting bumpers" (it sort of works). Do that first exercise

> > regularly, as in every morning and evening and whenever you are

> > feeling that itch. It will release tensions in the pelvic bowl. A

> > few months ago

> > the "urge to merge" was so strong that I was just tossing and

> > turning in my bed. In my resolve not to "pull the pud", I tried

> > that "silver bullet"

> > exercise and the experience was nearly orgasmic. I just sort of

> > melted and it was very pleasurable. I think women have it easier

> > because their

> > genitalia is located inside their bodies and that allows for much

> > more integration of these energies. Whereas us guys are really

> > out there on our

> > own. Anatomically and psychologically we really need to be

> > "contained" and we are impotent without the feminine aspect in our life.

> > All in all, sexuality is our path home. It's a gift and our right

> > to "Rightness" in life. Use it well.

> > Dharam

> >

> > supertriangel wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important

> > > is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise

> > > anyhow if you are doing KY daily? Should sex be limited to a certain

> > > length of time and/or to once a week, month or year? I also read

> > > somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually ASSIST

> > > in raising the kundalini. Is there a source for explicit info about

> > > this? And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in

> > > terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)? Most of us

> > > heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe it

> > > is. If it is I would like to know why. I also heard that having sex

> > > can unblock the lower chakras so that could be a good thing, right?

> > >

> > > Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know

> > > more about using it wisely. Is there anything two people can to

> > > together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the

> > > kundalini? Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other

> > > readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying

> > > because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it

> > > is. Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it

> > > over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things? Do

> > > you think men have more of a problem with this than women?

> > >

> > > Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have

> > > heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more

> > > consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do

> > > have a friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested

> > > in having sex very often at all.

> > >

> > > I would like to know how others have/are dealing with this issue.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help,

> > >

> > > Steve

> > >

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> > > - Yogi Bhajan

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Dear Guru Chiter Kaur,

> My question is why do men seem to have it so much tougher when it comes to

> sexuality? I haven't read anything about orgasm not being recommended for

> women aside from general energy raising reasons, which sex can be

> potentially helpful for. So if a man and woman were together having sex

it

> would be ideal for the woman to have many orgasms (which I read in the

> marriage manual) and for the man to ejaculate as little as possible. Is

that a double standard or what?

 

You are going to have to talk to God about that. We are made completely

different. The law of polarities strikes again. We can achieve union

though if we both master our own essence and balance masculine and feminine

energies within ourselves.

 

Sat nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

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Thanks for the insight

They used to call that "Hysteria". (roots similar to Hysterectomy) A woman would

be sent to the doctor to cure her. The doctor would used a

vibrator of some sort to make things "right".

I know nothing more about this practice but am very curious.

Dharam (Mars in Taurus)

 

 

 

TiArLa wrote:

 

> I don't think men realize how painful it is for women - because men are "out

> there" they can at least touch themselves but a woman's desire is to be

> penetrated and the anguish when that doesn't happen is more then some women

> can bear.

>

> Peace

>

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>. So if a man and woman were together having

> sex it

> would be ideal for the woman to have many orgasms (which I read in the

> marriage manual) and for the man to ejaculate as little as possible.

> Is

> that a double standard or what?

 

 

A man can have an orgasm without ejaculating, in this way he can please

his partner, have a good time, and preserve the energy.

 

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Dear All,

 

Dharam Singh, thanks for sharing your experience with the "silver bullet" in

the Guraka Kriya page 41 in Sexuality and Sprituality. What is your

experience with chair or table pose that is on page 28 first exercise? This

works for both men and women to raise the sexual energy. I would also

suggest doing this exercise 2-3 times a day on a regular basis. ( not just

when sexuality energy is out of balance) This is part of a set called

"Raise Kundalini in Quick Order" which is a very powerful set.

 

When both men and women can open all their chakras it is possible to have

very satisfying orgasmic experiences in the whole spine during sex, which

precludes the need for orgasim in a man and deepens them for women.

 

I find that the Taoist books explanations are good. There is a good book by

in think Steven Chen called the Tao of Sexuality which is bound in white

leather. (call a local new age bookstore) The practice of KY actually makes

it possible to do that the taoist say to do. The taoists generally suggest

moving the energy through mental concentration and the root lock. KY

physically shifts the energy.

 

We have assembled the best sets for this in our book "Sexuality and

Spirituality" available at www.yogatech.com. There are also partner

exercises to balance male-female energies. For anyone wanting to work with

their sexuality energy, start doing the sets and meditations in this book

there are over 100 to choose from) and watch your life transform.

And then share with all of us.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

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Dear Dharam Singh and all,

 

If I can transmute the energy I deserve my orgasm. Having a loving

experience of the energy where it moves my emotions and circulates

throughout my body and being is a rich experience. I need to do that before

I lose my seed because with each orgasm a man loses his drive

 

The ojas is the sexual energy that goes up the spine, but the semem doesn't

go up the spine. If a man raises his energy and circulates it as you

explained and then ejaculates, does he lose less energy? I have never read

an answer to this one. Any men have any insights based on experience?

 

 

Sat Nam,

 

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Sat Nam,

 

What helps a great deal these days are certain exercises for male potency.

They are in the marriage

> manuals, the second volume.

 

Most of these are also in "Sexuality and Spirituality"

 

Sat Nam,

 

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Theoretically this is supposed to be the case. YB once stated this was so also,

and was the only way to avoid losing energy during ejaculation.

However, I tried a number of Bhuddist and Taoist and Tantric methods of doing

this and although I was able to create a lot of bliss recirculating

the energy, I still felt an energy drain from ejaculation. Si I,m wondering if

it really is possible.

 

Seva Simran

 

Gururattan K.Khalsa wrote:

 

> Dear Dharam Singh and all,

>

> If I can transmute the energy I deserve my orgasm. Having a loving

> experience of the energy where it moves my emotions and circulates

> throughout my body and being is a rich experience. I need to do that before

> I lose my seed because with each orgasm a man loses his drive

>

> The ojas is the sexual energy that goes up the spine, but the semem doesn't

> go up the spine. If a man raises his energy and circulates it as you

> explained and then ejaculates, does he lose less energy? I have never read

> an answer to this one. Any men have any insights based on experience?

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> Gururattan Kaur

>

>

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Yes, this is possible. I have found that you have to play with the energy a lot

to master this technique but it is possible for a man to have an

orgasm without ejaculation and without causing inflammation, which is unhealthy.

 

Seva Simran

 

s.cohen wrote:

 

> littlebird108 wrote:

> >. So if a man and woman were together having

> > sex it

> > would be ideal for the woman to have many orgasms (which I read in the

> > marriage manual) and for the man to ejaculate as little as possible.

> > Is

> > that a double standard or what?

>

> A man can have an orgasm without ejaculating, in this way he can please

> his partner, have a good time, and preserve the energy.

>

> shoshana

>

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Sex can be used to "solve loneliness". It does make the world go round. In a

relationship that is on shaky ground it can give a couple reason to

come together and maybe try to work things out (God put that many nerves and

neurons in one anatomical location for a reason).

To try to answer the question of whether or not a man gains energy I will make a

comparison. A study was done of College basketball players. They

found that the testosterone level of the winners actually went up after the game

while that of the losers went down. They were pumped and felt

good about themselves. Feeling capable is important for the male. Yogiji teaches

that sex and success are the same. "It's the same psychology" he

says. "Without finance, there is no romance".

If there is a real sharing and intimacy around the sexual experience, the pranic

body just opens up. I think that even though a man loses his

seed, the energy that is moved and integrated, Ojas, gives him a more rich and

subtle experience of himself. This little victory will make him a

more confident, intuitive basketball player. It might be true that he may not

have as much brute strength but he'll have his wits, and much more,

about him.

I hope that helps.

Sat Nam,

Dharam

 

 

"Gururattan K.Khalsa" wrote:

 

> Dear Dharam Singh and all,

>

> If I can transmute the energy I deserve my orgasm. Having a loving

> experience of the energy where it moves my emotions and circulates

> throughout my body and being is a rich experience. I need to do that before

> I lose my seed because with each orgasm a man loses his drive

>

> The ojas is the sexual energy that goes up the spine, but the semem doesn't

> go up the spine. If a man raises his energy and circulates it as you

> explained and then ejaculates, does he lose less energy? I have never read

> an answer to this one. Any men have any insights based on experience?

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> Gururattan Kaur

>

>

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> - Yogi Bhajan

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Thanks for the recommendation. You're right, you really want to maintain a

practice so that you never really feel pressed up against a wall by the

energy. I will take a look at "Raise Kundalini in Quick Order". Maybe even lead

it in Sadhana, 4 hours from now. I am pretty convinced that we

have all we need right under this umbrella called Kundalini Yoga.

I did go looking and I couldn't find "Tao of Sexuality" at Amazon.

Sat Nam,

Dharam

 

"Gururattan K.Khalsa" wrote:

 

> Dear All,

>

> Dharam Singh, thanks for sharing your experience with the "silver bullet" in

> the Guraka Kriya page 41 in Sexuality and Sprituality. What is your

> experience with chair or table pose that is on page 28 first exercise? This

> works for both men and women to raise the sexual energy. I would also

> suggest doing this exercise 2-3 times a day on a regular basis. ( not just

> when sexuality energy is out of balance) This is part of a set called

> "Raise Kundalini in Quick Order" which is a very powerful set.

>

> When both men and women can open all their chakras it is possible to have

> very satisfying orgasmic experiences in the whole spine during sex, which

> precludes the need for orgasim in a man and deepens them for women.

>

> I find that the Taoist books explanations are good. There is a good book by

> in think Steven Chen called the Tao of Sexuality which is bound in white

> leather. (call a local new age bookstore) The practice of KY actually makes

> it possible to do that the taoist say to do. The taoists generally suggest

> moving the energy through mental concentration and the root lock. KY

> physically shifts the energy.

>

> We have assembled the best sets for this in our book "Sexuality and

> Spirituality" available at www.yogatech.com. There are also partner

> exercises to balance male-female energies. For anyone wanting to work with

> their sexuality energy, start doing the sets and meditations in this book

> there are over 100 to choose from) and watch your life transform.

> And then share with all of us.

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> Gururattan Kaur

>

>

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> - Yogi Bhajan

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I don't mean to be picky, but on the subject of hysteria - just a matter of

curiosity - hysterectomies used to be common practice in dealing with

hysteria, which was considered a female disease since antiquity. In the

1890's Freud became the first western doctor to assert that hysteria could

occur also in men, debunking the old conceptions of the disease. He related

it primarily to male impotence, and only secondarily to the unsatisfied

state of these mens' wives.

 

The ultimate cause of hysteria, so Freud discovered, was memory loss. Which

sounds kind of hokey, but once again, the amnesias he lifted (with a

resultant lifting of hysterical symptoms, which ranged from hallucinations

to nighttime emissions to vomiting attacks and bulemia) usually related to

sexual issues not adequately processed during childhood.

 

This is sort of a specialty of mine, dont mean to go completely off on a

tangent.

 

Sat Nam,

-thomas

 

 

-

"Dharam Singh" <dharam

<Kundaliniyoga>

Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:48 AM

Re: Sex or Celibacy?

 

 

> Thanks for the insight

> They used to call that "Hysteria". (roots similar to Hysterectomy) A woman

would be sent to the doctor to cure her. The doctor would used a

> vibrator of some sort to make things "right".

> I know nothing more about this practice but am very curious.

> Dharam (Mars in Taurus)

>

>

>

> TiArLa wrote:

>

> > I don't think men realize how painful it is for women - because men are

"out

> > there" they can at least touch themselves but a woman's desire is to be

> > penetrated and the anguish when that doesn't happen is more then some

women

> > can bear.

> >

> > Peace

> >

> >

> > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> > - Yogi Bhajan

> >

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