Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Thanks for the reply! I didn't have access to the marriage manuals.Could you ,please, send me via email some exercises? Thank you in advance for your further help! Blessings and Lots-of-Love, Dennis - "Dharam Singh" <dharam <Kundaliniyoga> Wednesday, August 22, 2001 7:12 AM Re: Sex or Celibacy? > As a man, and as a former young man, I can relate. What helps a great deal these days are certain exercises for male potency. They are in the marriage > manuals, the second volume. Maybe you have access, if not, let me know. Basically, my brother, when our nervous system gets overloaded by our sexual drive and > our mind starts runnin' off, we're sunk. What these exercises do is lessen the tensions and tightnesses in our hips, back and chest. and allow an easier > flowing of that energy through our system. This is really wild stuff. You can get so completely ripped on this if you can just ride the tiger. Another > technique is to simply not scratch the itch. Try simply breathing, not reacting and allowing the "feeling" to become a total body experience. Just feel > completely and utterly horny as a "box of rabbits". Enjoy it, let it merge with every point in the cosmos, if you want to go that far. Smile, breath and close > your eyes. It's a weakness in the nervous system that doesn't allow us to consider other possibilities rather than the same old, same old. > Dharam, > P.S. Pulling the pud creates a pressure in the gray matter of the brain. Yogiji teaches that there must be another person there to "absorb" the energy. He > goes so far as to say it is better to be with another man than to masturbate. > > Dennis Vourtsis wrote: > > > Dear Gururattan K.Khalsa > > Men need to learn to reduce loss of semen. Depends on the age. > > I am a young man.How should I learn the loss of semen? > > What is more,it there any good exercise I can use tto stop the habit of masturbation?I do it almost evry day and I REALLY can not resist the temtation!:-( > > Thank you in advance fr your help. > > Blessings and Lots-of-Love, > > Dennis > > - > > "Gururattan K.Khalsa" <rattanak > > <Kundaliniyoga> > > Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:30 PM > > Re: Sex or Celibacy? > > > > > Dear Steve, > > > > > > The short answer is sex not celebacy. Your questions are good and the full > > > treatment would require a book. Not a bad idea. > > > > > > KY is one of the few yogic paths that allows sex. Many of the hatha paths > > > require celebacy. > > > > > > > > > > I don't see too much info on this but I am wondering how important > > > > is it to abstain from sex for the kundalini to rise. Or will it rise > > > anyhow if you are doing KY daily? > > > > > > The question is how you use your kundalini energy which is also related to > > > sexual energy. You can actually facilitate the rising of the kundalini > > > during sex if you use rootlock to raise the energy to the higher chakras. > > > > > > Should sex be limited to a certain length of time and/or to once a week, > > > month or year? > > > > > > Yogi Bhajan has said that if we really did sex right and both partners > > > raised their energy, we would be satisfied for several weeks. > > > > > > I also read somewhere that if you don't climax that it could actually > > > ASSIST in raising the kundalini. > > > > > > This is true. The taoist books are good references on this. > > > > > > And is masturbation worse or equal to sex with another in > > > > terms of dissapating the energies (or any other reasons)? > > > > > > The male-female energies do not get balanced. > > > > > > Most of us heard that masturbation was wrong from childhood I think. Maybe > > > it is. If it is I would like to know why. > > > > > > It is not that it is wrong. Lost of semen for a man dissipates energy that > > > takes about 2 days to replace. > > > > > > I also heard that having sex can unblock the lower chakras so that could be > > > a good thing, right? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > Clearly, sexual energy is a powerful force so I would like to know more > > > about using it wisely. > > > > > > Men need to learn to reduce loss of semen. Depends on the age. Yogi Bhajan > > > does not recommend as do the taoists that men never ejaculate. YB says that > > > this practice can cause problems in the prostrate. > > > > > > Is there anything two people can to > > > > together during sex to raise and/or enhance the raising of the kundalini? > > > > > > Yes. Use rootlock and breathing. > > > > > > Also, what does YB say about all of this? What do other > > > > readers think/do about it? Often the sexual urge is just so annoying > > > > because it demands to be released and stays on your mind until it is. > > > > > > Sat kriya and chair pose are for this. This is why we do KY, to channel or > > > energy upward. > > > > > > Is it better to try and resist that or just give in and get it > > > > over with so that your mind is free to move on to other things? > > > > > > Do KY and overtime your energy will rise. > > > > > > Do you think men have more of a problem with this than women? > > > > > > Men and women work completely differently. Women do not lose energy in > > > orgasm. They relax and expand and get in a better mood. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe some people are challenged more by this than others. I have > > > > heard that people with Mars in a fire sign have stronger and more > > > consistant sexual impulses. I do not know if that is true but I do have a > > > friend with Mars in Virgo who says he is not really interested in having > > > sex very often at all. > > > > > > These generalizations are often true. > > > > > > There are some couples on the list that can offer more information I am > > > sure. > > > > > > Sat Nam, > > > > > > Gururattan Kaur > > > > > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > > > - Yogi Bhajan > > > > > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > > > Kundaliniyoga > > > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > > > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > > > > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. 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Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Dear Dharam Singh, I will take a look at "Raise Kundalini in Quick Order". Maybe even lead it in Sadhana, Let us know what you experience. One can get hooked on this set. >I am pretty convinced that we have all we need right under this umbrella called Kundalini Yoga. The resources are vast. > I did go looking and I couldn't find "Tao of Sexuality" at Amazon. Try somewhere else. I read the two books by Matak Chia (sp sorry) about male and female sexuality and integrated some of the basic concepts in my book "Sexuality and Sprituality." But as I said, to actually be able to do this stuff, KY is the best I have found. BTW I don't have the books with me or I would give better references. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Dear Seva Simran, > Theoretically this is supposed to be the case. YB once stated this was so also, and was the only way to avoid losing energy during ejaculation. > However, I tried a number of Bhuddist and Taoist and Tantric methods of doing this and although I was able to create a lot of bliss recirculating > the energy, I still felt an energy drain from ejaculation. Si I,m wondering if it really is possible. Thanks for your feed back. So far I haven't found any man who says it is possible, but I haven't asked that many. I asked a man 51 who does these practices (started out after learning KY) how often a man should ejaculate and he said never. He feels much stronger when he can contain and circulate his energy. In fact he feel fabulous. Sat Nam., Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 Dear Seva Singh, Thanks for sharing is technique of working with the subtle body. > The best techniques I discovered is where you hold the awareness of your subtle body and the energy nature of all the different feelings and if you > keep your consciousness completely on the subtle body, and not the physical, it just happens. No inflammation. No physical ejaculation. > I don't think it is accessible as a practice > for most people. I had a lot of experience with energy and a variety of teachings before I could do this. I would say it is not accessible without practice. Anyone can cultivate this if they patiently practice and take the time to be mindful, silent and still, yet aware, awake and present. It is well known that our physical and subtle bodies are just different dimensions of our being. Those working with energy often change our subtle body to impact our physical body. Your example is a great testimonial that we can do this ourselves. It is often recommended to begin by focusing our attention on the our physical sensations. This brings us into our bodies, cultivates presence, attunes us to our emotional energy and grounds us. When we can maintain this physical emotional awareness, (without words, nonverbally) we have a solid basis for cultivating subtle awareness in our subtle bodies. In fact it can even be automatic or atleast a next step in awareness development. I think the book John mentioned is a different one but it sounds even better if it shows the integration of KY and Taoist techniques. I want to thank all you men for so honestly sharing with all of us and hope you will continue to do so. I firmly believe that as men spiritualize their relationship to sexual energy, the world will change from war to peace. We will all be happier and we will have more fun. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passionate_freak Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hmm, We are with lotta misconceptions regarding Kundalini. It's not important whether KY or any other allows SEX or not but what is imporant is how many of KY people with indulgence in sex have raised the Kundalini ??? Lemme tell you my own experience... i missed my Kundalini because of the NIGHT FALLs... And how many of people who have sex are able to establish the relation to Kundalini during sex ??? It's total nonsense. THe technique is not a chocolate. This a high order Tantric techniqe to make a upsurge of Kundalini during sex. Osho has talked about it. Still it's not that easy as he has told. Kundalini is far more vast than the human mind can contemplate.IT's not mere talking like Osho and too many of westerns and eastern writers do. So-called Kundalini masters and the books have created a clouds of misconceptions and the confusions. I demand to show any of your masters with Kundalini awakening...CELEBACY is the most needed thing if anyone is eager awakening the Kundalini. When NIGHT FALL causes the halt in the Kundalini how come a complete SEX ( masturbation too) will help your KUNDALINI ??? And, I bet nobody is with the Perfect GURU with The Sahashrara Awakening...there's only one in the whole world. Awakening of Sahashrara...well even the Mulashara... is not easy. The easiest way to awake it to find out a Perfect Guru who with the blessings will make the upsurge of the force. Among triliions of people only few thousands think of the Kundalini...and only a few hundered remains in practice.. and only few 1 0r two people can awke the Sahashrara. Even the third eye awakening ...oh man.... it's awsome. And I know few people with third eye and few others are with some lower. THE MOST NEEDED THING IS A CAPABLE GURU. and no people with Kundalini awakeing will claim they are with the force, they will remain silent. Be aware and try finding a true Guru if you are really true to yourself. And don't get misled by so-called Gurus and the stuffs in the internet and the books. If the books were with help then every single person with book would have been with it. there's a sayin: Stop reading health books. You may die of misprints. regards PF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passionate_freak Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 And, Celebacy is equally important to male and female. I dunno the orgasm but celebacy is equally important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passionate_freak Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 I will take a look at "Raise Kundalini in Quick Order". Maybe even lead it in Sadhana, well how quick is quick ??? If one is with capable Guru, with his/her blessings it will take no time. But bet, the writer with the theories only. Well, the experiences a whole lotta people including people in here and many writers including this one has the misconceptions and is of projection of mind than the upsurging of the Kundalini. Kundalini works real different.... Dare to come with a pure heart...and you'll be with real GURU. reards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moksh Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 hey when ever you feel like masturbating then just take a 3-4 deep breaths and take an afiirmation that celibacy is the best policy.well it worked for me . but this things are easy to control what hard ios night fall ans wet dream cauze its beyond your thresshold of consciousness and it happen when you are unconscious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamWest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 I too have wondered abut this question for many years and have experiemented with different traditions. I have found celibacy in combination with Sadhana is the most affective practice. Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtiKaur Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 "Men and women work completely differently. Women do not lose energy in orgasm. They relax and expand and get in a better mood." Sat Nam and Respect Gururattan Kaur, May I first say quickly that I love you! Your books are fabulous and I use them all the time. Thank you! Also, I am new to the forum, hi!, and I am excited to have this as a resource.... okay, my post: The sentance above is yours, and I wanted to ask you about it. In your book Sexuality and Spirituality it mentions that women ought to do certain exercises (like bundle rolls) after sex to boost their electromagnetic field. So does the electro-magnetic field get weakened or depleted by sex? I have a client who asked for help in acheiveing orgasm. Is there a set in particular you really like? I have most of your books so a reference and page number will suffice. Thank you for your time and expertise! Many blessings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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