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HI,

Isn't that why you try to raise the kundalini? Every single one of us who

does not have their kundalini rissen has it. Judgement, hatred, you can't

escape it! Even the nicest person in the world has it. Look at the way they

talk, or anything like that. It is impossible for us to do what you said, to

not judge. Sure, it sounds nice and easy in that email, but actually try it,

if you pay attention, you'll catch yourself saying or thinking things with

judgement and hatred and anger.

 

Blessed be

leaf

 

 

 

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Leaf,

 

Oh certainly! I do not disagree. You cannot always

escape the initial thought of judgement, the initial

thought of aversion (aversion, as opposed to

hatred--which I think can be avoided completely--but I

suppose that's semantics...) but, the point IS to pay

attention.

 

Notice when you begin to pass judgments. Mindfully

observe your reactions to things...and then let them

go.

 

I would not designate those that respond, speak and

act with a lot of judgement, hatred and anger one of

the "nicest person in the world". "Nice" people

are not always the least judgemental. Being

non-judgmental (that is; being mindful of your

judgements and not attaching to them) is not the same

thing as being nice....(but then again, that's me

being a bit judgemental, isn't it (grin))

I do catch myself thinking and occasionally saying

things that I would rather I did not. The point is

I'm more aware of it and I try to work through my

judgments--look at them just for what they are--and

then move on.

Blessed Be to you as well!

--Mel

--- Joe0464 wrote:

> HI,

> Isn't that why you try to raise the kundalini?

> Every single one of us who

> does not have their kundalini rissen has it.

> Judgement, hatred, you can't

> escape it! Even the nicest person in the world has

> it. Look at the way they

> talk, or anything like that. It is impossible for

> us to do what you said, to

> not judge. Sure, it sounds nice and easy in that

> email, but actually try it,

> if you pay attention, you'll catch yourself saying

> or thinking things with

> judgement and hatred and anger.

>

> Blessed be

> leaf

 

 

 

 

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Blessed Be Leaf,

My name is Joe Grant and I am also a Witch.

As a person who has been judged up one side and down the other I think I

can speak well on this subject. I have been over weight all of my like.

School was not an enjoyable experience for me. Everyday I went to school

and wondered what was going to happen that day. I am also gay and from a

small conservative town in Kentucky so my sexuality was not welcomed

news to say the least. As I have already stated I am a Witch. I have

received reactions from fear to out and out hatred. I have been told

many times of the horrors of hell fire and damn nation. Most of the

people where I am from are Southern Baptist, need I say more. The point

I am trying to get at is all you have to do is choose not to judge. It

is that simple. I know it is not easy. I find myself making judgements

and I shake off the thought. As time goes by, it gets easier. Yes,

holding things can harm us, but all thoughts are is energy. Just let go

of that negative thought and you let go of the energy behind it. I hope

this helps.

 

Blessed Be

Joe Grant

 

Ps. Hatred and fear come out of judgements. Alleviate the judgements and

you alleviate the hatred and the fear.

 

Peace and Blessings

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Hi Leaf,

 

For anyone trying to live a spiritual life one has to try one's best NOT

to do those things . Doing KY hekps to transmute those emotions - we

can't help how we react to a given situation, but we can control how far

we involve ourselves in those negative emotions. The choice is ours to

give in to them, or to change ourselves - which doesn't happen in a day

or a night, it requires persistance and commitment. Isn't that what the

spiritual life is all about -- trying to become the best human eoings we

can be ?

 

love to all,

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Yeah, it sounds real nice to say we shouldn't judge, but I'm not sure that

is really practical to survival. There is nothing wrong with judging that a

particular person does not look safe and avoiding them, for example. I

don't think the truth is no judgement anymore than I think the reality is

'all one'. Also for this topic of vegetarianism, it is about being balanced

and true to ourselves. In sanskrit it is known as "achintya beta beta

tattva,simultaneous oneness and difference".

 

Love Always,

littlebird Leslie

AKA Guru Chiter Kaur

 

>

> Joe0464 [Joe0464]

> Tuesday, August 21, 2001 4:08 PM

> Kundaliniyoga

> meat, leather, plants, and caffeine

>

>

> HI,

> Isn't that why you try to raise the kundalini? Every single one

> of us who

> does not have their kundalini rissen has it. Judgement, hatred,

> you can't

> escape it! Even the nicest person in the world has it. Look at

> the way they

> talk, or anything like that. It is impossible for us to do what

> you said, to

> not judge. Sure, it sounds nice and easy in that email, but

> actually try it,

> if you pay attention, you'll catch yourself saying or thinking

> things with

> judgement and hatred and anger.

>

> Blessed be

> leaf

>

>

>

>

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member

> Center (My Groups), or send mail to

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>

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> kundalini yogaclasses.html

>

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> Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

 

 

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It sounds like there needs a distinction to be made between a judgment and

an opinion. "judging that a particular person does not look safe may be

more of an observation or an opinion.

 

Samantha

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"littlebird108" <littlebird108

<Kundaliniyoga>

Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:29 AM

RE: meat, leather, plants, and caffeine

 

 

>

>

> Yeah, it sounds real nice to say we shouldn't judge, but I'm not sure that

> is really practical to survival. There is nothing wrong with judging that

a

> particular person does not look safe and avoiding them, for example. I

> don't think the truth is no judgement anymore than I think the reality is

> 'all one'. Also for this topic of vegetarianism, it is about being

balanced

> and true to ourselves. In sanskrit it is known as "achintya beta beta

> tattva,simultaneous oneness and difference".

>

> Love Always,

> littlebird Leslie

> AKA Guru Chiter Kaur

>

> >

> > Joe0464 [Joe0464]

> > Tuesday, August 21, 2001 4:08 PM

> > Kundaliniyoga

> > meat, leather, plants, and caffeine

> >

> >

> > HI,

> > Isn't that why you try to raise the kundalini? Every single one

> > of us who

> > does not have their kundalini rissen has it. Judgement, hatred,

> > you can't

> > escape it! Even the nicest person in the world has it. Look at

> > the way they

> > talk, or anything like that. It is impossible for us to do what

> > you said, to

> > not judge. Sure, it sounds nice and easy in that email, but

> > actually try it,

> > if you pay attention, you'll catch yourself saying or thinking

> > things with

> > judgement and hatred and anger.

> >

> > Blessed be

> > leaf

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> > - Yogi Bhajan

> >

> > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member

> > Center (My Groups), or send mail to

> > Kundaliniyoga

> > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

> >

> > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> > kundalini yogaclasses.html

> >

> > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on

> > Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

>

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> Kundaliniyoga

> NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

>

> KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> kundalini yogaclasses.html

>

> Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga

& Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

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