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Slovakia's churches exercise their clout against yoga plan

 

By Brian Whitmore, Globe Correspondent, 8/26/2001

 

RATISLAVA, Slovakia - A government plan to boost the fitness of Slovakian

children by teaching yoga exercises in school has been put on hold in the face

of a firestorm

of opposition from clergy who denounced it as a threat to Christianity.

 

Yoga instruction, which was to begin next month, was put off following visceral

attacks by

Roman Catholic and Protestant clergy who charged that it would undermine

Christianity and

promote Hinduism.

 

 

''Yoga rejects faith in God the creator; it rejects Jesus Christ, the whole act

of redemption and

Christianity,'' said a letter from Slovakia's bishops that was read last month

in each of the

country's Roman Catholic churches. ''It is a path to total atheism.''

 

The letter likened the Catholic Church's opposition to yoga in schools to

''protecting the home

from a stranger who enters, doesn't introduce himself, touches your children,

and wants to

take them away.''

 

 

Protestant clergy, who like the Catholics jealously protect their spiritual

turf after decades of

repression under Communism, have been no less outspoken.

 

 

''Yoga is not gymnastics,'' said Bishop Ivan Osusky of the Evangelical Church

of Augsburg

Confession, Slovakia's largest Protestant denomination. ''It leads to

individualism which

further leads to belief in reincarnation. It is an onslaught of Hinduism.''

 

 

Yoga, which originated in India, grew out of the Hindu tradition, and draws on

Hindu beliefs

like karma. But today, most yoga practices in Western countries focus on

physical posture

and breathing exercises.

 

 

Yoga classes are offered in some US public schools and have met limited and

scattered

opposition, mostly from conservative Christian groups.

 

 

Unlike in the United States, where rigid separation of church and state keeps

religious

instruction out of schools, Catholic and Protestant churches in Slovakia wield

considerable

influence in education.

 

 

 

The yoga classes were initially proposed by the government to address a growing

incidence

here of children with back problems.

 

 

Stefan Michalko, executive director of the Slovak branch of Yoga in Daily Life,

said the school

program was strictly about exercise and had no religious content.

 

 

''They don't understand what yoga is or what the program is about,'' Michalko

said about

yoga's critics.

 

 

Education Minister Milan Ftacnik, a longtime yoga enthusiast, likened yoga's

opponents to

religious fundamentalists.

 

 

''Yoga has existed here for decades and we have not become a Hindu country,''

said Ftacnik,

who belongs to no organized religion. ''Catholics, Baptists, Hindus, or Muslims

can practice

yoga.''

 

 

But as the controversy demonstrates, Slovakia's churches are determined to keep

something

they consider an ''alien'' religion out of the classroom.

 

 

''To better understand what yoga is, let's have a look at India, a cradle of

yoga,'' the Catholic

bishops' letter read. ''How is it possible that there are children and old

people lying near trash

containers and nobody notices them? It is possible because under the influence

of Hinduism

everybody lives only for themselves.''

 

In Parliament, the Christian Democratic Movement compared yoga to the Communist

Party's

assault on Christianity, and threatened to withdraw its support for the ruling

coalition

government should the plan go forward.

 

 

The Rev. Cyril Jancisin, secretary of the Slovak Roman Catholic Bishops'

Conference, said the

church is most concerned with a group called Yoga in Daily Life, which is

training yoga

teachers for Slovak schools. He said the group's leader, Paramhans Svami

Mahesvarananda,

an Indian-born guru, seeks to spread Hinduism.

 

 

To placate the opposition, Ftacnik proposed making yoga classes optional, but

religious

leaders balked.

 

''The Church does not want to give parents or children a choice,'' Ftacnik

said. ''We have

fundamentalist Catholics in Slovakia.''

 

 

Roman Catholics make up the largest religious denomination in Slovakia with 2.5

million

members. The Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession has 369,000 members.

 

 

Under Communist rule in the former Czechoslovakia, all organized religions

suffered severe

persecution, and church leaders of all denominations say this accounts for

their

defensiveness.

 

''We are a country deeply marked by Communism ... and have a spiritual vacuum

now,''

Osusky said. ''There are risks associated with foreign influences. Thank God we

are not

America. Too much tolerance is harmful.''

 

 

This story ran on page A18 of the Boston Globe on 8/26/2001.

© Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company.

 

 

 

 

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As far out as that sounds there is, don't forget, here in North America many

people assume kundalini yoga and Sikh Dharma are the same.

 

Seva Simran

 

Dharam Singh wrote:

 

> Slovakia's churches exercise their clout against yoga plan

>

> By Brian Whitmore, Globe Correspondent, 8/26/2001

>

> RATISLAVA, Slovakia - A government plan to boost the fitness of

Slovakian

> children by teaching yoga exercises in school has been put on hold in the

face of a firestorm

> of opposition from clergy who denounced it as a threat to Christianity.

>

> Yoga instruction, which was to begin next month, was put off following

visceral attacks by

> Roman Catholic and Protestant clergy who charged that it would undermine

Christianity and

> promote Hinduism.

>

> ''Yoga rejects faith in God the creator; it rejects Jesus Christ, the whole

act of redemption and

> Christianity,'' said a letter from Slovakia's bishops that was read last

month in each of the

> country's Roman Catholic churches. ''It is a path to total atheism.''

>

> The letter likened the Catholic Church's opposition to yoga in schools to

''protecting the home

> from a stranger who enters, doesn't introduce himself, touches your children,

and wants to

> take them away.''

>

> Protestant clergy, who like the Catholics jealously protect their spiritual

turf after decades of

> repression under Communism, have been no less outspoken.

>

> ''Yoga is not gymnastics,'' said Bishop Ivan Osusky of the Evangelical Church

of Augsburg

> Confession, Slovakia's largest Protestant denomination. ''It leads to

individualism which

> further leads to belief in reincarnation. It is an onslaught of Hinduism.''

>

> Yoga, which originated in India, grew out of the Hindu tradition, and draws

on Hindu beliefs

> like karma. But today, most yoga practices in Western countries focus on

physical posture

> and breathing exercises.

>

> Yoga classes are offered in some US public schools and have met limited and

scattered

> opposition, mostly from conservative Christian groups.

>

> Unlike in the United States, where rigid separation of church and state keeps

religious

> instruction out of schools, Catholic and Protestant churches in Slovakia

wield considerable

> influence in education.

>

> The yoga classes were initially proposed by the government to address a

growing incidence

> here of children with back problems.

>

> Stefan Michalko, executive director of the Slovak branch of Yoga in Daily

Life, said the school

> program was strictly about exercise and had no religious content.

>

> ''They don't understand what yoga is or what the program is about,'' Michalko

said about

> yoga's critics.

>

> Education Minister Milan Ftacnik, a longtime yoga enthusiast, likened yoga's

opponents to

> religious fundamentalists.

>

> ''Yoga has existed here for decades and we have not become a Hindu country,''

said Ftacnik,

> who belongs to no organized religion. ''Catholics, Baptists, Hindus, or

Muslims can practice

> yoga.''

>

> But as the controversy demonstrates, Slovakia's churches are determined to

keep something

> they consider an ''alien'' religion out of the classroom.

>

> ''To better understand what yoga is, let's have a look at India, a cradle of

yoga,'' the Catholic

> bishops' letter read. ''How is it possible that there are children and old

people lying near trash

> containers and nobody notices them? It is possible because under the

influence of Hinduism

> everybody lives only for themselves.''

>

> In Parliament, the Christian Democratic Movement compared yoga to the

Communist Party's

> assault on Christianity, and threatened to withdraw its support for the

ruling coalition

> government should the plan go forward.

>

> The Rev. Cyril Jancisin, secretary of the Slovak Roman Catholic Bishops'

Conference, said the

> church is most concerned with a group called Yoga in Daily Life, which is

training yoga

> teachers for Slovak schools. He said the group's leader, Paramhans Svami

Mahesvarananda,

> an Indian-born guru, seeks to spread Hinduism.

>

> To placate the opposition, Ftacnik proposed making yoga classes optional, but

religious

> leaders balked.

>

> ''The Church does not want to give parents or children a choice,'' Ftacnik

said. ''We have

> fundamentalist Catholics in Slovakia.''

>

> Roman Catholics make up the largest religious denomination in Slovakia with

2.5 million

> members. The Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession has 369,000

members.

>

> Under Communist rule in the former Czechoslovakia, all organized religions

suffered severe

> persecution, and church leaders of all denominations say this accounts for

their

> defensiveness.

>

> ''We are a country deeply marked by Communism ... and have a spiritual vacuum

now,''

> Osusky said. ''There are risks associated with foreign influences. Thank God

we are not

> America. Too much tolerance is harmful.''

>

> This story ran on page A18 of the Boston Globe on 8/26/2001.

> © Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company.

>

>

>

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> Kundaliniyoga

> NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

>

> KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> kundalini yogaclasses.html

>

> Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga &

Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

>

> Your use of is subject to

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To me it's more evidence that it's very possible to be religious and cruel.

Whereas it is not possible to be spiritual and cruel.

They have forgotten that the first temple was the human body.

 

For most of my life and even in the present I avoid categorization. When someone

asks me "am I a Sikh" they never get a one word answer. I resist

the label.

Sat Nam

 

 

 

mark terrell wrote:

 

> As far out as that sounds there is, don't forget, here in North America many

people assume kundalini yoga and Sikh Dharma are the same.

>

> Seva Simran

>

> Dharam Singh wrote:

>

> > Slovakia's churches exercise their clout against yoga plan

> >

> > By Brian Whitmore, Globe Correspondent, 8/26/2001

> >

> > RATISLAVA, Slovakia - A government plan to boost the fitness of

Slovakian

> > children by teaching yoga exercises in school has been put on hold in the

face of a firestorm

> > of opposition from clergy who denounced it as a threat to Christianity.

> >

> > Yoga instruction, which was to begin next month, was put off following

visceral attacks by

> > Roman Catholic and Protestant clergy who charged that it would undermine

Christianity and

> > promote Hinduism.

> >

> > ''Yoga rejects faith in God the creator; it rejects Jesus Christ, the whole

act of redemption and

> > Christianity,'' said a letter from Slovakia's bishops that was read last

month in each of the

> > country's Roman Catholic churches. ''It is a path to total atheism.''

> >

> > The letter likened the Catholic Church's opposition to yoga in schools to

''protecting the home

> > from a stranger who enters, doesn't introduce himself, touches your

children, and wants to

> > take them away.''

> >

> > Protestant clergy, who like the Catholics jealously protect their spiritual

turf after decades of

> > repression under Communism, have been no less outspoken.

> >

> > ''Yoga is not gymnastics,'' said Bishop Ivan Osusky of the Evangelical

Church of Augsburg

> > Confession, Slovakia's largest Protestant denomination. ''It leads to

individualism which

> > further leads to belief in reincarnation. It is an onslaught of Hinduism.''

> >

> > Yoga, which originated in India, grew out of the Hindu tradition, and draws

on Hindu beliefs

> > like karma. But today, most yoga practices in Western countries focus on

physical posture

> > and breathing exercises.

> >

> > Yoga classes are offered in some US public schools and have met limited and

scattered

> > opposition, mostly from conservative Christian groups.

> >

> > Unlike in the United States, where rigid separation of church and state

keeps religious

> > instruction out of schools, Catholic and Protestant churches in Slovakia

wield considerable

> > influence in education.

> >

> > The yoga classes were initially proposed by the government to address a

growing incidence

> > here of children with back problems.

> >

> > Stefan Michalko, executive director of the Slovak branch of Yoga in Daily

Life, said the school

> > program was strictly about exercise and had no religious content.

> >

> > ''They don't understand what yoga is or what the program is about,''

Michalko said about

> > yoga's critics.

> >

> > Education Minister Milan Ftacnik, a longtime yoga enthusiast, likened

yoga's opponents to

> > religious fundamentalists.

> >

> > ''Yoga has existed here for decades and we have not become a Hindu

country,'' said Ftacnik,

> > who belongs to no organized religion. ''Catholics, Baptists, Hindus, or

Muslims can practice

> > yoga.''

> >

> > But as the controversy demonstrates, Slovakia's churches are determined to

keep something

> > they consider an ''alien'' religion out of the classroom.

> >

> > ''To better understand what yoga is, let's have a look at India, a cradle

of yoga,'' the Catholic

> > bishops' letter read. ''How is it possible that there are children and old

people lying near trash

> > containers and nobody notices them? It is possible because under the

influence of Hinduism

> > everybody lives only for themselves.''

> >

> > In Parliament, the Christian Democratic Movement compared yoga to the

Communist Party's

> > assault on Christianity, and threatened to withdraw its support for the

ruling coalition

> > government should the plan go forward.

> >

> > The Rev. Cyril Jancisin, secretary of the Slovak Roman Catholic Bishops'

Conference, said the

> > church is most concerned with a group called Yoga in Daily Life, which is

training yoga

> > teachers for Slovak schools. He said the group's leader, Paramhans Svami

Mahesvarananda,

> > an Indian-born guru, seeks to spread Hinduism.

> >

> > To placate the opposition, Ftacnik proposed making yoga classes optional,

but religious

> > leaders balked.

> >

> > ''The Church does not want to give parents or children a choice,'' Ftacnik

said. ''We have

> > fundamentalist Catholics in Slovakia.''

> >

> > Roman Catholics make up the largest religious denomination in Slovakia with

2.5 million

> > members. The Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession has 369,000

members.

> >

> > Under Communist rule in the former Czechoslovakia, all organized religions

suffered severe

> > persecution, and church leaders of all denominations say this accounts for

their

> > defensiveness.

> >

> > ''We are a country deeply marked by Communism ... and have a spiritual

vacuum now,''

> > Osusky said. ''There are risks associated with foreign influences. Thank

God we are not

> > America. Too much tolerance is harmful.''

> >

> > This story ran on page A18 of the Boston Globe on 8/26/2001.

> > © Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> > - Yogi Bhajan

> >

> > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> > Kundaliniyoga

> > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

> >

> > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> > kundalini yogaclasses.html

> >

> > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga &

Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

>

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> Kundaliniyoga

> NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

>

> KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> kundalini yogaclasses.html

>

> Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga &

Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

>

> Your use of is subject to

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Dear Dharam Singh

 

Would you please read my post of yesterday, and delete old trailers from

your messages and only quote from the directly relevant parts and not send

the original string in its entirety. The list is becoming too busy and the

digests are becoming almost unreadable because of the volume of irrelevant

stuff that is left behind in messages.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

 

Sat Nam!

Gordon

 

-

"Dharam Singh" <dharam

<Kundaliniyoga>

Friday, August 31, 2001 04:06

Re: Slovakia's churches against Yoga plan

 

 

> To me it's more evidence that it's very possible to be religious and

cruel.

> Whereas it is not possible to be spiritual and cruel.

> They have forgotten that the first temple was the human body.

>

> For most of my life and even in the present I avoid categorization. When

someone asks me "am I a Sikh" they never get a one word answer. I resist

> the label.

> Sat Nam

>

>

>

> mark terrell wrote:

>

> > As far out as that sounds there is, don't forget, here in North America

many people assume kundalini yoga and Sikh Dharma are the same.

> >

> > Seva Simran

> >

> > Dharam Singh wrote:

> >

> > > Slovakia's churches exercise their clout against yoga plan

> > >

> > > By Brian Whitmore, Globe Correspondent, 8/26/2001

> > >

> > > RATISLAVA, Slovakia - A government plan to boost the fitness of

Slovakian

> > > children by teaching yoga exercises in school has been put on hold in

the face of a firestorm

> > > of opposition from clergy who denounced it as a threat to

Christianity.

> > >

> > > Yoga instruction, which was to begin next month, was put off

following visceral attacks by

> > > Roman Catholic and Protestant clergy who charged that it would

undermine Christianity and

> > > promote Hinduism.

> > >

> > > ''Yoga rejects faith in God the creator; it rejects Jesus Christ, the

whole act of redemption and

> > > Christianity,'' said a letter from Slovakia's bishops that was read

last month in each of the

> > > country's Roman Catholic churches. ''It is a path to total atheism.''

> > >

> > > The letter likened the Catholic Church's opposition to yoga in

schools to ''protecting the home

> > > from a stranger who enters, doesn't introduce himself, touches your

children, and wants to

> > > take them away.''

> > >

> > > Protestant clergy, who like the Catholics jealously protect their

spiritual turf after decades of

> > > repression under Communism, have been no less outspoken.

> > >

> > > ''Yoga is not gymnastics,'' said Bishop Ivan Osusky of the

Evangelical Church of Augsburg

> > > Confession, Slovakia's largest Protestant denomination. ''It leads to

individualism which

> > > further leads to belief in reincarnation. It is an onslaught of

Hinduism.''

> > >

> > > Yoga, which originated in India, grew out of the Hindu tradition, and

draws on Hindu beliefs

> > > like karma. But today, most yoga practices in Western countries focus

on physical posture

> > > and breathing exercises.

> > >

> > > Yoga classes are offered in some US public schools and have met

limited and scattered

> > > opposition, mostly from conservative Christian groups.

> > >

> > > Unlike in the United States, where rigid separation of church and

state keeps religious

> > > instruction out of schools, Catholic and Protestant churches in

Slovakia wield considerable

> > > influence in education.

> > >

> > > The yoga classes were initially proposed by the government to address

a growing incidence

> > > here of children with back problems.

> > >

> > > Stefan Michalko, executive director of the Slovak branch of Yoga in

Daily Life, said the school

> > > program was strictly about exercise and had no religious content.

> > >

> > > ''They don't understand what yoga is or what the program is about,''

Michalko said about

> > > yoga's critics.

> > >

> > > Education Minister Milan Ftacnik, a longtime yoga enthusiast, likened

yoga's opponents to

> > > religious fundamentalists.

> > >

> > > ''Yoga has existed here for decades and we have not become a Hindu

country,'' said Ftacnik,

> > > who belongs to no organized religion. ''Catholics, Baptists, Hindus,

or Muslims can practice

> > > yoga.''

> > >

> > > But as the controversy demonstrates, Slovakia's churches are

determined to keep something

> > > they consider an ''alien'' religion out of the classroom.

> > >

> > > ''To better understand what yoga is, let's have a look at India, a

cradle of yoga,'' the Catholic

> > > bishops' letter read. ''How is it possible that there are children

and old people lying near trash

> > > containers and nobody notices them? It is possible because under the

influence of Hinduism

> > > everybody lives only for themselves.''

> > >

> > > In Parliament, the Christian Democratic Movement compared yoga to the

Communist Party's

> > > assault on Christianity, and threatened to withdraw its support for

the ruling coalition

> > > government should the plan go forward.

> > >

> > > The Rev. Cyril Jancisin, secretary of the Slovak Roman Catholic

Bishops' Conference, said the

> > > church is most concerned with a group called Yoga in Daily Life,

which is training yoga

> > > teachers for Slovak schools. He said the group's leader, Paramhans

Svami Mahesvarananda,

> > > an Indian-born guru, seeks to spread Hinduism.

> > >

> > > To placate the opposition, Ftacnik proposed making yoga classes

optional, but religious

> > > leaders balked.

> > >

> > > ''The Church does not want to give parents or children a choice,''

Ftacnik said. ''We have

> > > fundamentalist Catholics in Slovakia.''

> > >

> > > Roman Catholics make up the largest religious denomination in

Slovakia with 2.5 million

> > > members. The Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession has

369,000 members.

> > >

> > > Under Communist rule in the former Czechoslovakia, all organized

religions suffered severe

> > > persecution, and church leaders of all denominations say this

accounts for their

> > > defensiveness.

> > >

> > > ''We are a country deeply marked by Communism ... and have a

spiritual vacuum now,''

> > > Osusky said. ''There are risks associated with foreign influences.

Thank God we are not

> > > America. Too much tolerance is harmful.''

> > >

> > > This story ran on page A18 of the Boston Globe on 8/26/2001.

> > > © Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> > > - Yogi Bhajan

> > >

> > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center

(My Groups), or send mail to

> > > Kundaliniyoga

> > > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> > > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

> > >

> > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> > > kundalini yogaclasses.html

> > >

> > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini

Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

 

> >

> >

> > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> > - Yogi Bhajan

> >

> > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> > Kundaliniyoga

> > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

> >

> > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> > kundalini yogaclasses.html

> >

> > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini

Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

 

>

>

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> Kundaliniyoga

> NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

>

> KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> kundalini yogaclasses.html

>

> Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga

& Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

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Sorry, this should not have gone to the list! :-(

 

 

"gordon" <gordon

 

> Dear Dharam Singh

>

> Would you please read my post of yesterday, and delete old trailers from

> your messages and only quote from the directly relevant parts and not send

> the original string in its entirety. The list is becoming too busy and the

> digests are becoming almost unreadable because of the volume of irrelevant

> stuff that is left behind in messages.

>

> Thank you for your cooperation.

>

> Sat Nam!

> Gordon

>

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Hi all !

 

Sat Nam,

 

Don't you think that it was the same problem with the West, when Yoga was

first practiced by Maharishi and others ? Let's hope with time, the

Slovakians will certainly see more of Yoga phenomena in their everyday life.

I think they are not so stressed

yet and are reticent to feel and acknowledge the benefits of Yoga as yet. On

the other

hand, do they have access to Television as such, and again, this is a

positive influence

for the community, as far the hundredth monkey theory goes... especially

with children!

 

Just brooding... before the w/e and thank you, Dharam, for your sharings and

advice.

 

Sat Nam,

Blessings,

Chama

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