letting go of old thoughts

October 6, 2001

I have been working on getting rid of every thing in my body that I

no longer need. I have also been working on accepting every one where

they are in their life, in helping the world heal. Well today brought

up maybe one of the deepest core beliefs I have, while I thought I

had let go of already. Where I live there is this major religion in

which I grew up. I left that group many years ago to find my path,

which was calling me stronger than the teachings they thought. Today

I was at my mom's house and she was watching her church leader

talking to them. He said how they where told to go into all nations

and baptize every one to be their faith. If any one was to join their

faith they would be saved and live forever. And if any one was to

refuse their faith that they should tell them how they are dammed to

hell forever. Oh wow that feasted in me for a few hours till I came

home and had time to think off all I am doing and what this all meant

to me. First thoughts how dare they dame me to hell. They don't even

know who I am. They have no right stomping on me like that. After

getting really mad I remembered who I was and what I am working on.

How I am getting myself healed and growing. Then I said don't take it

so personal it's not just you they have dammed to hell. Look at all

the many great people that they have placed in the same category as

you. Which brought me to ok then I can see that this limited thinking

they have is where they choose to be right now. I can love them for

where they are and let them go so I can follow my path. My next

question is. My whole family is this religion and having to take care

of my mom with all of them how can I stay in a focused placed around

them. Love them for where they are, and not take them damming me to

hell personal. I thank any one who can give me other points of view

to see things from.

Sat Nam.

Siri Devta Kaur

October 6, 2001

This is a hard one. I have also moved away from a religion in which my

family and many old friends are rooted, and it isn't easy to be

different. With the old friends I have found I have naturally moved

away from them as there is nothing in common anymore, and it seems

pointless to be spending time with people who think I'm on my way to

hell. It doesn't make for pleasant times. With the family I've had to

learn tolerance , to understand that they have as much right to their

views as I have, and to understand that within their narrow view they are

truely concerned for my welfare. I also feel it is a respect issue and

both sides need to respect the views of the other.

All I can tell you is that I have had to keep telling myself that what

they think is irrelevant - it doesn't change who I am one iota. I would

suggest being as discreet as possible about your views - don't get into

discussions which will drain you and achieve nothing. Just allow the

person you are to shine through and as you progress on you path that will

be more and more wonderful and will speak for itself. Years ago I learned

a very good way of avoiding pointless argument - just keep saying " yes'

or " I hear you" - it means absolutely nothing but keeps difficult people

off your back ! Another thing to do is to mentally repeat a mantra like'

Sat Nam' when someone is saying things that bother you intensely, it

shifts your focus completely.

Hope something here helps!

Love,

Avtar Kaur

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October 6, 2001

--- Siobhan MacMahon <siobhanmac wrote:

Thank you Avtar Kaur, yes you have many words of

encouragement. I will try the mantras at my next

meeting.

Sat Nam

> off your back ! Another thing to do is to mentally

> repeat a mantra like'

> Sat Nam' when someone is saying things that bother

> you intensely, it

> shifts your focus completely.

>

> Hope something here helps!

>

> Love,

> Avtar Kaur

>

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October 7, 2001

Hello,

First there is no hell and heaven and nobody can put u in heaven or hell except

u. U are responsible for everything that happens. Well u are a woman. Somebody

comes and stresses that u are not woman will u believe them or be angry with

them? No, what will u do? Take pity on them for their illusions? Do the same. Is

it even worth considering? or contemplating!

All religions are dead bodies of religion that was once cuz of The living Guru

(Whether it is Jesus Christ or Mohammed or Krishna or Buddha or Mahavir or Guru

Nanak Dev or Jarthrushta or Astavakra or Tao ...............................) .

U are with a living GURU like Yogi Bhajanji.

That itself means u are near to ur own religion (whether u know it or no?). So

in fact u hv the same religion within u. Only it has manifested into a different

form. All religions are the same! All paths lead to the same! The tools differ!

And a person is the best judge which tool affects it the most. May be to ur mom

the tool which she has affects her the most. And look at the poor church leader,

if he/she says every tool is same, nobody wuld take his/her tool. U understand?

So he is bound to say so. And so are other people or how else they will use

their tool?

But remember no religion can be based on fear. If u follow a path out of fear

know for sure God isn't there! And u will never reach there.

The key for their behavior is the word faith. Faith is a belief system. And all

beliefs are basically brain washings. U are slave of faiths. And hence they tend

to go away from the truth, from which they originated. So plz. plz. laugh on the

beliefs. Plz. take pity on them! Plz. service them.

U are a seeker of truth?

Of God?

The consciousness that is within and without! Then remember it is the same

consciousness that flows in everybody including ur mom and church leader. That

God, that energy.

The next time something like this happens. Go deep into urself, see the

consciousness within and then in them. U can't be Free and God until u see the

freedom in everything and God in everything and everywhere.

Bow down to them.Touch their feet! Tell them U are right so I am.

And then also if they insist on hell.

Okay, tell them I luv hell! It is a wonderful place!

U must luv heaven and hell together! Both go together!

And there is also a meditation underlying it. Watch what they say. Let them say

what they say. Don't hold it. Don't create, destroy or maintain anything! Just

be with urself seeing whatever happens instead of holding, negating or creating

something. Be watcher to whatever happens inside and out! Choicelessness is the

best choice!

And let me know how u feel and what happens?

U can't be free until u are so much affected and moved by what others say! Be

urself! And respect others individuality. And as urself isn't ur -ve feelings

reponsible for what is happening? Luv all!

And I beg ur pardon and seek sorry if u don't like what I hv written.

My Pranam

Devang H.Dattani

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siri_devta_kaur

Kundaliniyoga

Sunday, October 07, 2001 4:23 AM