mosquitos (Rolling Thunder)

[Guest guest]

And Thank you Dharam,

 

Sorry about that 'lapsus'. I think R.T was a combination of all the great

Healers of the past and actually, was considered as the greatest psychic in

America. I did not

have the chance to meet him in person, but only got his vibes through the

innumerous

feedback by Dr Elmer Green and Dr Norman Shealy, both founders of Energy

Medecine.

 

What amazed me most while reading the book, was the immense compassion and

capacity that he had and emanated to his surroundings and to those who

surrounded him. And above all, the amazing thing to witness is, the complete

transformation of

the author himself, Doug Boyd, by then familiar with the world of energies

with his encounter

with Swami Rama(I'd love to the Himalayan Institute in Pennsylvania, one

day!!!).

 

Ironically enough, I met with a lady in one of the oddest places in NYC, last

year, and

have become friends, and this summer, to my utter surprise, was the last one

to be

initiated in the Soshone/Cheerokee tradition and was the one to ask for a

prayer

at the Temple of Sri Gurumayi. Apparently, since they have put his photo on

the altar

of the same temple.

 

Another question about Diabetes, I am perplexed at the fact that many

Healers/Spiritual Leaders

have this ailment. In Energy Medicine, there has been numerous inputs about

the cause of this illness. One such input is that this is an imbalance of the

Solar Plexus -

Chakra = the transmutation of the Self (Ego) to unconditional love,

compassion. Like you said : R.T devouring the demons transmuting them into

sweetness. And the antidote to this is the repressed resentment( therefore

no sweetness at all), thus causing the imbalance in the

hormonal secretions which as result causes this same illness. Difficult to

understand and digest the dichotomies of the human psyche, though! Either

too much or not enough sweetness triggers this illness, it seems to me. I

will be interested to know

which is the best kriya for people with such health conditions, please, if

you do not mind.

 

Well, thank you for the rectification and giving me the chance to discuss

about R.T, one of the masters that I regret of not having met. But my friend

Dianne is here now, so

may be....

 

Blessings to you all,

Sat Nam,

Chama.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you Chama.

The author was Doug Boyd (you said David Boyle). He also wrote a book about

Swami Rama which I read. He spoke of R.T. (that's what we used to call

him) as having "perfect poise" and of Swami Rama as having "perfect wisdom". I

never saw such organic coolness in a human being before or since

then. He was in a state of constant "devouring" of his demons....converting that

karma into sweetness. He welcomed the toxic, faced it head-on and

showed us all, by his actions, how to do it. It was a vigilance like that

spoken of by Carlos Castaneda, where Don Juan says that a warrior must

be impeccable. In his Shoshone nation (he was born Cherokee) he was called upon

for healings and as a spokesman for native causes including the

destruction of the environment (pinon trees). He had to go through several

trials by his people to "certify" that his medicine was still coming

from the "good" side. The trial was being put in a pit of rattlesnakes where he

was bit numerously. (I imagine that mosquitoes weren't even a

bother at such a point). If he was able to transmute the poison into something

harmless to his system then he still had a job. He never failed.

It was age and diabetes that caught up with him in January '98. He was around 82

years.

Dharam

 

chamarel28 wrote:

 

> Dans un e-mail daté du 14/10/01 17:42:42 Paris, Madrid (heure d'été),

> dharam a écrit :

>

> > I knew a Shone/Cherokee Shaman named Rolling Thunder. Mosquitoes would be an

> > annoyance to everyone but none were bothering him.

> >

>

> I second that too and the Book that might help here is called "Rolling

> Thunder" by

> David Boyle, a researcher for the Menninger Institute. I suggest you reading

> the book

> to grasp the whole meaning behind the interaction of the energies of our

> intent with our

> immediate surroundings. And I think the Inst. might have his cassettes for

> practice.

>

> And the other very popular book in the early '90's, was James Redfield's book

> called

> "The Celestine Prophecy", where there is a more elaborate exercise on

> how to master the capacity of communicating with plants and the vegetable

> world.

>

> Sat Nam,

> Chama.

>

>

>

>

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What an amazing story. I'll be dying to read it. Thank you very much.

 

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[Guest guest]

Dharam,

 

 

It is just beautiful and yes, the knowledge is tremendous! Thank You for

everything!

 

I am taking note of the addresses of his wife and the advice about the

cassettes.

 

I know about the INSSSEEM - am interested in all their conferences as Norm(my

mentor is the actual President). The challenge is the travel costs every

year and the

cumulative w/shop fees that all interest me as I am working on the doctoral

program.

 

The best option is to talk to Dianne and find out about the temple(I do not

know the exact location). I'll send you her email off-list, may be?

 

Thanks again,

Sat Nam

Chama

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

His medicine was strong and true. I have many feelings, thoughts and expressions

from that time ('77 - '80). More than I can put in words at this

time, still. I can say one thing (since you brought up Gurumayi) that relates to

my experience with R.T. I had this tremendous sense in the

month's after I left Rolling Thunder's community in Carlin, NV. that some

intelligence had "gotten into" me. It is real hard to describe. It was

the same year I did KY for the first time and that was still unfolding. This

intelligence was tenacious and weighed on me and as I started to

acknowledge it I began to know some things. One thing it was saying was being

truthful and simply being was the only way out from underneath this

stone. I have come to know the stone as Love and not in the light and happy,

hollywood sense. Real love is far from romance.

In the early nineties I asked Gurumayi (http://www.siddhayoga.org./) how a

westerner with all their liberal attitudes toward sex and whatnot

approach the kundalini. She responded through her interpreter that the

"kundalini will just slap you around until you get it". Hunh! That is

pretty much my experience. But it was R.T. who really cut through my ego/defence

and touched my heart. It wasn't pretty, I was embarrassed but his

poise even while delivering the payload to my "ego" was astonishing. You had to

be there.

I want to know more about this temple in NYC. Also, Meninger is not a resource

at this time but you can get tapes and stuff directly from his

family. Cassette tapes of him speaking are available through his wife, Carmen

Sunrising Pope, Box 699, Carlin, Nevada 89822. Also, "Returning to

Right Relationship with Rolling Thunder & Running Wolf" is available for a $25

donation from: Gadohi Usquanigodi Native American Spiritual Center,

P.O. Box 1810, Ranchos de Taos, N.M. 87557 (505) 751-1081

Additionally, Dr. Elmer Green, who conducted extensive research in this area at

Menninger.

He would be contacted at :

International Society for the Study of

Subtle Energies and Energy Medicine

ISSSEEM Central Office

11005 Ralston Rd., #100D

Arvada, CO 80004

(303) 425-4625 - office

(303) 425-4685 - fax

email address: issseem

web page: http://www.issseem.org/

 

Dharam

 

chamarel28 wrote:

 

> And Thank you Dharam,

>

> Sorry about that 'lapsus'. I think R.T was a combination of all the great

> Healers of the past and actually, was considered as the greatest psychic in

> America. I did not

> have the chance to meet him in person, but only got his vibes through the

> innumerous

> feedback by Dr Elmer Green and Dr Norman Shealy, both founders of Energy

> Medecine.

>

> What amazed me most while reading the book, was the immense compassion and

> capacity that he had and emanated to his surroundings and to those who

> surrounded him. And above all, the amazing thing to witness is, the complete

> transformation of

> the author himself, Doug Boyd, by then familiar with the world of energies

> with his encounter

> with Swami Rama(I'd love to the Himalayan Institute in Pennsylvania, one

> day!!!).

>

> Ironically enough, I met with a lady in one of the oddest places in NYC, last

> year, and

> have become friends, and this summer, to my utter surprise, was the last one

> to be

> initiated in the Soshone/Cheerokee tradition and was the one to ask for a

> prayer

> at the Temple of Sri Gurumayi. Apparently, since they have put his photo on

> the altar

> of the same temple.

>

> Another question about Diabetes, I am perplexed at the fact that many

> Healers/Spiritual Leaders

> have this ailment. In Energy Medicine, there has been numerous inputs about

> the cause of this illness. One such input is that this is an imbalance of the

> Solar Plexus -

> Chakra = the transmutation of the Self (Ego) to unconditional love,

> compassion. Like you said : R.T devouring the demons transmuting them into

> sweetness. And the antidote to this is the repressed resentment( therefore

> no sweetness at all), thus causing the imbalance in the

> hormonal secretions which as result causes this same illness. Difficult to

> understand and digest the dichotomies of the human psyche, though! Either

> too much or not enough sweetness triggers this illness, it seems to me. I

> will be interested to know

> which is the best kriya for people with such health conditions, please, if

> you do not mind.

>

> Well, thank you for the rectification and giving me the chance to discuss

> about R.T, one of the masters that I regret of not having met. But my friend

> Dianne is here now, so

> may be....

>

> Blessings to you all,

> Sat Nam,

> Chama.

>