Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 I am trying to get a handle on why both of my Teachers (Yogiji and Rolling Thunder) have/had Diabetes. Note: The Yogic concept of Prana and the East Asian concept of Chi or Qi are identical. from from "The Way of Qigong - The Art and Science of Chinese Energy Healing" by Kenneth Cohen The spleen is damaged by pensiveness. The qi becomes knotted and stuck. Pensiveness means excess concentration, an obsessive preoccupation with a concept or subject. It is the kind of intellectual nit-picking usually required for Ph.D. dissertations. Needless to say, college students often suffer from what Chinese medicine considers spleen-related disorders: gastric disturbances, elevated blood pressure, weakened immunity, and a tendency toward phlegm and colds. Excess empathy, bei, also harms the spleen. Empathy is similar to com-passion. The American Heritage Dictionary defines compassion as "Deep awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve it." Empathy means that we also identify with that person's suffering. This feeling is especially strong when we come in contact with individuals who are facing hardships we ourselves have endured. Empathy is a positive attribute and creates a heating trust in any relationship, especially a therapeutic one. Empathy is considered excessive and damaging to the spleen when we lose a clear recognition of boundaries, when we feel distraught and upset by some-one else's problems." Pensiveness and excess empathy, the two qualities that harm the spleen, are related. We are pensive when we are preoccupied with ourselves; we are overly empathic when we are preoccupied with others. Empathy is an important and difficult issue for many healers. Too much empathy makes it difficult to treat the patient objectively and may result in "picking up" the patient's physical and/or mental disease. A qigong student knows he is overempathizing when it becomes difficult to feel relaxed, centered, and rooted. To overempathize is to feel disempowered and out of touch with the earth, the element that corresponds to the spleen. Such empathy weakens the spleen, and conversely a weak spleen can create boundary issues. The spleen carries the qi of the earth. Qigong masters say that the spleen needs grounding, time spent in nature. There is a wonderful cure for both of the spleen's emotional pathogens - pensiveness and empathy. "Lose your mind and come to your senses." Spend more time in nature, seeing nature as a positive model of health and balance. The earth supports all kinds of life impartially, without attachment. Let the mind become quiet and the senses open to the environment. Such a cure may seem too simple, nontechnical, perhaps even naive. The important point is that it works! I remember my old friend, Zenmaster Alan Watts, once remarking, "We believe that we haven't thought enough about the difficulties of life. Perhaps the problem is that we have thought entirely too much!" chamarel28 wrote: > Abandonment, the equivalent of the core problem in the individuation process > towards the WHOLE/HOLOS of the Ego, feeling separated from the Soul because > of lack of > proper weaning and nurturing from parents. The transmutation of the Orphaned > Ego, > related of the Solar Plexus towards its vertical alignment within the sacred > axis, thus > accepting the divine sexual energy, conditioning the SELF values with its > nectar so as to be able to taste the sweetness of unconditional love and > compassion in the Heart > Chakra, honouring the Divine in the Other, no other than the reflection of > our own Godhood.... > > I bow to the Innumerous Teachers who have honoured me with the scent of their > beautiful Souls, comforted me with the warmth in their words, helped me > understand with their knowledge, consoled me with their darshans, and > nurtured me with their > love. > > Sat Nam All > Chama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 The pancreas is the main organ not functioning properly in diabetes. Sorry that my response is so late but I have been off line. (otherwise I find your input fastinating) Sat Nam......, Sandra Robbins RN (Jiwan Kaur) - "Dharam Singh" <dharam <Kundaliniyoga> Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:09 PM Healers and Diabetes > I am trying to get a handle on why both of my Teachers (Yogiji and Rolling Thunder) have/had Diabetes. > > Note: The Yogic concept of Prana and the East Asian concept of Chi or Qi are identical. > > from from "The Way of Qigong - The Art and Science of Chinese Energy Healing" > by Kenneth Cohen > > The spleen is damaged by pensiveness. The qi becomes knotted and stuck. Pensiveness means excess concentration, an obsessive preoccupation with a > concept or subject. It is the kind of intellectual nit-picking usually required for Ph.D. dissertations. Needless to say, college students often > suffer from what Chinese medicine considers spleen-related disorders: gastric disturbances, elevated blood pressure, weakened immunity, and a > tendency toward phlegm and colds. > > Excess empathy, bei, also harms the spleen. Empathy is similar to com-passion. The American Heritage Dictionary defines compassion as "Deep > awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve it." Empathy means that we also identify with that person's suffering. This > feeling is especially strong when we come in contact with individuals who are facing hardships we ourselves have endured. Empathy is a positive > attribute and creates a heating trust in any relationship, especially a therapeutic one. Empathy is considered excessive and damaging to the > spleen when we lose a clear recognition of boundaries, when we feel distraught and upset by some-one else's problems." Pensiveness and excess > empathy, the two qualities that harm the spleen, are related. We are pensive when we are preoccupied with ourselves; we are overly empathic when > we are preoccupied with others. > > Empathy is an important and difficult issue for many healers. Too much empathy makes it difficult to treat the patient objectively and may result > in "picking up" the patient's physical and/or mental disease. A qigong student knows he is overempathizing when it becomes difficult to feel > relaxed, centered, and rooted. To overempathize is to feel disempowered and out of touch with the earth, the element that corresponds to the > spleen. Such empathy weakens the spleen, and conversely a weak spleen can create boundary issues. > > The spleen carries the qi of the earth. Qigong masters say that the spleen needs grounding, time spent in nature. There is a wonderful cure for > both of the spleen's emotional pathogens - pensiveness and empathy. "Lose your mind and come to your senses." Spend more time in nature, seeing > nature as a positive model of health and balance. The earth supports all kinds of life impartially, without attachment. Let the mind become quiet > and the senses open to the environment. Such a cure may seem too simple, nontechnical, perhaps even naive. The important point is that it works! I > remember my old friend, Zenmaster Alan Watts, once remarking, "We believe that we haven't thought enough about the difficulties of life. Perhaps > the problem is that we have thought entirely too much!" > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2001 Report Share Posted November 17, 2001 In chinese medicine spleen and pancreas are the same meridian and treated together. I should have made that clear. Same mental/emotional issues and energy for both. Dharam Sandra Robbins wrote: > The pancreas is the main organ not functioning properly in diabetes. Sorry > that my response is so late but I have been off line. (otherwise I find your > input fastinating) Sat Nam......, Sandra Robbins RN > (Jiwan Kaur) > - > "Dharam Singh" <dharam > <Kundaliniyoga> > Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:09 PM > Healers and Diabetes > > > I am trying to get a handle on why both of my Teachers (Yogiji and Rolling > Thunder) have/had Diabetes. > > > > Note: The Yogic concept of Prana and the East Asian concept of Chi or Qi > are identical. > > > > from from "The Way of Qigong - The Art and Science of Chinese Energy > Healing" > > by Kenneth Cohen > > > > The spleen is damaged by pensiveness. The qi becomes knotted and stuck. > Pensiveness means excess concentration, an obsessive preoccupation with a > > concept or subject. It is the kind of intellectual nit-picking usually > required for Ph.D. dissertations. Needless to say, college students often > > suffer from what Chinese medicine considers spleen-related disorders: > gastric disturbances, elevated blood pressure, weakened immunity, and a > > tendency toward phlegm and colds. > > > > Excess empathy, bei, also harms the spleen. Empathy is similar to > com-passion. The American Heritage Dictionary defines compassion as "Deep > > awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve > it." Empathy means that we also identify with that person's suffering. This > > feeling is especially strong when we come in contact with individuals who > are facing hardships we ourselves have endured. Empathy is a positive > > attribute and creates a heating trust in any relationship, especially a > therapeutic one. Empathy is considered excessive and damaging to the > > spleen when we lose a clear recognition of boundaries, when we feel > distraught and upset by some-one else's problems." Pensiveness and excess > > empathy, the two qualities that harm the spleen, are related. We are > pensive when we are preoccupied with ourselves; we are overly empathic when > > we are preoccupied with others. > > > > Empathy is an important and difficult issue for many healers. Too much > empathy makes it difficult to treat the patient objectively and may result > > in "picking up" the patient's physical and/or mental disease. A qigong > student knows he is overempathizing when it becomes difficult to feel > > relaxed, centered, and rooted. To overempathize is to feel disempowered > and out of touch with the earth, the element that corresponds to the > > spleen. Such empathy weakens the spleen, and conversely a weak spleen can > create boundary issues. > > > > The spleen carries the qi of the earth. Qigong masters say that the spleen > needs grounding, time spent in nature. There is a wonderful cure for > > both of the spleen's emotional pathogens - pensiveness and empathy. "Lose > your mind and come to your senses." Spend more time in nature, seeing > > nature as a positive model of health and balance. The earth supports all > kinds of life impartially, without attachment. Let the mind become quiet > > and the senses open to the environment. Such a cure may seem too simple, > nontechnical, perhaps even naive. The important point is that it works! I > > remember my old friend, Zenmaster Alan Watts, once remarking, "We believe > that we haven't thought enough about the difficulties of life. Perhaps > > the problem is that we have thought entirely too much!" > > > > > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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