Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 I have found it very helpful in building time for the one minute breath to use the Tantric Sa Ta Na Ma tape to "count seconds" for me. It takes 5 repetitions to make 20 seconds, you can start with 3 and work your way up. This frees your mind from doing the counting or from looking at a clock (and when you are just counting mentally, the mind may tend to cheat a little and speed up the count) Of course you can use any other repetitious mantra--just see how many seconds per repetition. Peace, Love & Light, Sukhmani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 I have such difficulty with the one minute breath. Inhaling is difficult for me to stretch out to 20 seconds, holding the breath for 20 seconds is ok, and exhaling for 20 seconds is totally scary for me. I start shaking alot and also feel like a failure because while my lungs are fine, I just can't seem to do it. While I realize that the point here is not to judge myself, but to be, I seem to forget in the midst of this breath. Then I just play with the breath, trying all sorts of things... sometimes avoiding the panic by reverting to a more normal for me breathing pattern, sometimes desparately sucking in air, sometimes seeing what comes up. Is it better to do something like an 11-11-11 kind of a pattern and sustain it or is it better to try for the 20-20-20 and ride the roller coaster ? Or maybe you know other ways to work with it. My yoga teacher said that its no surprise that the exhale is the hardest, as it is about being out there in the world, which sometimes also feels scary or unsafe at some level to me. Your help is gratefully appreciated. Sat nam, Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 I went to Google to search for "one minute breath" and came across this web site that has very helpful guidance for developing one-pointed mind, and thoughts about how to extend the breath. <A HREF="http://www.imagical.com/ap/ChaoSpirit.htm">Chaochou's Astral Projection Resource Center</A> Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 I have the same kind of difficulty with the one minute breath. I also have trouble keeping track of 20 seconds. To measure I think the mool mantra. Sometimes I get confused because of the difficulty with the breath, but I like to hear the mool mantra going through my mind. I don't like to have the clock going off every 20 seconds. I feel like it's saying, "Oh you floundered again." Does the exact time matter so much? This morning, Saturday, I woke up at 2 am and should have just done my sadhana then. That's what I do when I am feeling very stressed and in dire need of sadhana (most of the time). Instead I went back to sleep, woke up at 5 and stayed in bed until 6. That didn't leave much time for sadhana. I am getting very tired of hearing this critical voice that always sounds like "you flounder again (above). I just felt relieved to be so rebellious and to feel well rested. So after 40 minutes, instead of sticking out a long sadhana, I took a walk and felt even better. Then, I continued the rest of my Sadhana routine. I like having a routine, but sometimes I feel compulsive about it. Being compulsive just stirs up that critical voice that definitely reduces the pleasure of doing Sadhana. Sheri, you seem to hear this same kind of nagging voice. What do you do about it besides my method of rebelling? Essentially it's like turning off a nagging mom. It's all in my head. Sat Nam, Gian (Ellen) - <Neshamaaa <Kundaliniyoga> Saturday, June 08, 2002 9:12 PM Re: One minute breath > I have such difficulty with the one minute breath. Inhaling is difficult for > me to stretch out to 20 seconds, holding the breath for 20 seconds is ok, and > exhaling for 20 seconds is totally scary for me. I start shaking alot and > also feel like a failure because while my lungs are fine, I just can't seem > to do it. While I realize that the point here is not to judge myself, but to > be, I seem to forget in the midst of this breath. Then I just play with the > breath, trying all sorts of things... sometimes avoiding the panic by > reverting to a more normal for me breathing pattern, sometimes desparately > sucking in air, sometimes seeing what comes up. Is it better to do something > like an 11-11-11 kind of a pattern and sustain it or is it better to try for > the 20-20-20 and ride the roller coaster ? Or maybe you know other ways to > work with it. > My yoga teacher said that its no surprise that the exhale is the > hardest, as it is about being out there in the world, which sometimes also > feels scary or unsafe at some level to me. Your help is gratefully > appreciated. Sat nam, Sheri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 Sat Nam Sheri, "I have such difficulty with the one minute breath." My very first meditation was one minute breath. I seem to remember fiddling around with 15 seconds and then 18 seconds and when I realized I could do 18 I just did twenty. My approach was that I intended to do it, I silently asked for help a couple of times but I always kept my intent, and if I stopped or gasped for air, I went right back to the meditation and eased back into it. "Inhaling is difficult for me to stretch out to 20 seconds, holding the breath for 20 seconds is ok, and exhaling for 20 seconds is totally scary for me." I learned to inhale slowly, the breath so faint that you can barely feel it coming through your nose and filling your lungs. The holding is easiest and also provided the heat and the fireworks later on. The exhaling is perhaps the most challenging, speed up your WaHe Gurus if you are running out of breath, trick yourself. The thing about pranayam meditations, from my viewpoint is that the farther along and the deeper you go, the more the body losens up and relaxes, there is a physiological change at different time intervals. You will be aware of them. The first 20-30 minutes is always the same, the body must 'warm up' and get accustomed to the new breathing pattern. It seems you are stuck in that interval. Thats ok, 'cheat' a little if you have to. Once you get past 30-45 minutes your body gets into it, 'higher self' seems to be in control, but you've got to get to the point where you are feeling the changes. Adjust the speed of the mantra when needed, start with just 15, go to 18 and stay there a while then go to twenty. I always started off at 15 on the very first rep, then either went to 18 or 20. The 20 is just too much of a shock for my mind-body. I seemed to have a lot of 'congestion' early on too, I would gasp and felt like there was something pressing on my chest. But I refused to give in. Yes my first month was rough. I don't know if it was kapha or what. No, don't play with the breath. Intend to move up, challenge what the mind-body presents to you as your 'limit', its never failed me. Lastly, I really feel like several of the breath meditations, especially this one, are about fear, base-level first chakra fear. Fear of holding the breath too long, of running out of oxygen, of death. Thats what I felt. But you know what? Its all just a big @@##$$%% illusion. Thats fantastic that you've chosen this meditation. Many people just give up on it, convinced they can't do it. Try this. After Adi Mantra, just sit silently and ask for help from the 'Golden Chain', with the intention that you are going to do the meditation for 20-30 minutes no matter what comes up or what your body throws at you. You'll do fine. Blessings Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 Sat Nam Sheri, Here are a couple of things that helped me to increase my timing with the one minute breath. 1) Start with a lower timing.. work into it easily like Brad said. Starting with something you feel comfortable with and then slowly stretch your limit by adding another 2 seconds. Then when you have become comfortable at that level, move up another 2 seconds. 2) Relax into it. Before starting do a relax check! Take a moment to feel every part of your body systematically, feet, legs, hips, stomach, chest, back, shoulders, arms, neck, throat and all the facial muscles and features. And notice if you are holding any tension, send a gentle message to each part of your body to relax. Often with more challenging meditations, we start to tense up with out even realizing it, usally because a negative thought has come into our mind about our ability to do the meditation. This is usually accompanied by a corresponding tension in the body which can inhibit the depth of our breathing, so it helps to do a quick scan a couple of times during the meditation, to see if we are holding anywhere. So once or twice scan the body and let go and relax through the legs, hips, belly, chest, shoulders and _facial muscles_ in particular. A good time to do this is during your inhale (when we can have the tendance to hold the shoulders and belly). 3) One of the problems can be that we are inhaling or exhaling the air too quickly. You could try, very softly, partially closing the glottis, which is the upper part of the throat, this will produce a slight even sound as the air passes through, and will enable you to control better the speed that the air comes in and out. Are you contracting the abdomen on the exhale, bringing the navel towards the spine? If you exhale from the lungs and chest and then continue, bringing the navel in by slowly and gently contracting the abdomen, then you will have a greater and more complete exahle, continue exhaling until the very last ml. of air is expelled (without straining) and then very gently let your abdomen start to slowly relax and expand in a controlled way, which will naturally drawn in air to start off your next inhale. Inhale so that your belly becomes round like a balloon, fully extended, and then move your focus up towards inhaling further to expand the chest and lungs. Hope this helps, don't be hard on your self, just start with something that's manageable and then challenge your self (in a very loving and gentle way ofcourse!) to go a little further and work upwards! brightest blessings, Krishan Shiva Kaur ___________ SikhNet - http://www.SikhNet.com ___________ Get news on Sikhism and the Sikhnet web site Sign up at http://www.SikhNet.com/ ___________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 A correction to my previous post. A good time to do the quick 'relax scan' is during the breath retention (holding), that's when we have the tendance to hold tension in the shoulders and belly. Sat Nam Krishan Shiva Kaur ___________ SikhNet - http://www.SikhNet.com ___________ Get news on Sikhism and the Sikhnet web site Sign up at http://www.SikhNet.com/ ___________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 Sat Nam, When I do one minute breath it is at the very end of my practice, with lots of breath of fire and breathing before hand. This it is easier but not easy. But not impossible which I find with no pranayama before. Work up to 20 minutes. To get the exhale, I do short little pieces of exhale to extend it. This is probably cheating but it helps. I also pump my navel which distracts me and generates energy. And chant mantras. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Sat nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 Sat Nam Sheri group, "To get the exhale, I do short little pieces of exhale to extend it." I do the same, some exhales for me are unexplainably 'short-breathed' and some are smooth, no problem. Another thought, I don't believe this comes with a mantra. I did it with WaHe Guru. So I just counted 20 WaHe Gurus, same as Sodarshan but 16. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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