balancing in the face of fear

[Guest guest]

Dear Dean,

 

> I would inquire here today to seek some direction for deepening my

practice.I struggle with fear and motivation also excessive appetite.I

still expierience traumatic recall throughout my body and a racing mind

wich as you can imagine is hindersome in my being present in the moment

with God.

 

> Hands down I have come very far in a short time and have tasted the river

of peace through prayer and some yoga.

 

Then you will make marvelous strides with KY. There is a wealth of

information in all my 24 KYtraining lessons on line. The answers you are

looking for are inside you and you will find them by following the guidance

that I offer in these lessons. See www.kundaliniyoga.org.

 

Sometimes I think people sign up for the discussion group and are not aware

of the lessons.

 

There is another set on State of Mind and Paranoia, basically working on

fear. It is is Relax and Renew page 40 available on www.yogatech.com. The

first 4 exercises put you in a great meditative state.

 

 

Blessings on your path,

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Dean,

Thanks for sharing your experience. Pain sure can

bring blessings if we can just let go. This release can

bring about a sense of a life within

that may never been if not for the pain (growing pains,

I think they call it) "Comfort is the disease and pain

is the cure" is what Yogiji has said. Give thanks for

all that has been while you are re-establishing your

SELF.....and give thanks for your breath. It is the kiss

of God.

You speak of excessive appetite and your mind racing.

Think about deepening your meditation. Meditation is the

way we satisfy our mind and being.

Without this satisfaction there will be much emptiness

and chaos and we might try to satisfy this with all the

wrong things. An incapacity to

truly still the mind will result in a inability to leap

into what is real.

 

"Meditating is a sort of eating, a consumption of subtle energies which

are digested by the mind's subtle digestive fire. Meditation is a

critical element of all daily programs because it satisfies the mind's

hunger. In-sufficient or improper meditation keeps the mind hungry, and

makes it turn outward through its sense organs to seek satisfaction from

sense objects, including especially physical food.

Use of food to satisfy the mind alone without consideration for the body

always leads to disease. Good meditation nourishes the organism so

thoroughly that the body can maintain itself on less food. Control of

desire, which is mental hunger, is the key to longevity and

immortal-ity.

Anything can be a meditation, as long as it is sincere and heartfelt."

----Robert Svoboda from "Prakruti"

 

Gururattan Kaur is right on when she

said "answers you are looking for

are inside you". Take her advice regarding fear. When

we're relating to pranic body, fear is not a reality. My

bit of advice is that when you finish

your set and meditation with 20-20-20 breath. Inhale 20

secs, suspend breath without straining, and as

consciously as possible exhale for 20

seconds. Allow yourself to be confronted(?) by this. Work

up to 11 minutes. If 20 seconds has you jumping out of

your skin go for 15 seconds. Start

with 3 minutes minimum. Master your breath and you'll

master your mind.

Peace and welcome on board,

Dharam Singh

 

 

 

mproctorathbcicom wrote:

 

> Hi folks,

> I am very new to

> kundalini yoga.I have had a modest exposure to hatha yoge through a

> wondrful teacher in Milwaukee for a year and a half .I have let yoga

> slowly move into my consciousness and my expierience.I have found it

> to be intuitively beckoning.

> I have lived a life of extreme swings in energies and behaviors.Some

> very self destructive and kaotic.This past two years plus I have been

> expieriencing the daily gift of being freed from drug

> addiction.During this time I have developed spiritually as a result

> of painful losses and consequences.

> Each day is blessed.

>

> I would inquire here today to seek some direction for deepening my

> practice.I struggle with fear and motivation also excessive

> appetite.I still expierience traumatic recall throughout my body and

> a racing mind wich as you can imagine is hindersome in my being

> present in the moment with God.

>

> Hands down I have come very far in a short time and have tasted the

> river of peace through prayer and some yoga.

>

> I open myself to what will come of my oveetures here today.

>

> So much to learn.Dean

>

>

>

>

> "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

> - Yogi Bhajan

>

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[Guest guest]

Dharam Singh,

Thank you for your response.

 

Guru rattn kaur thank you as well,

 

I am moved by this feedback.Yes I have signed up for on line

lessons.As soon as I'm able I will be ordering the suggested

literature.

 

This 20 20 20 breathing you reffered to.I was actually doing this for

a while when I first stopped using substances.

 

My healer coached me to slow my breath.To really slow my breath.This

I did with her while I was on her treatment table.You see at that

time I was unable to be still at all unless under her care.My

breathing was shallow and rapid.I carried a constant rubber band

tension in my sternum that would never relent.I felt like I was

choking all the time.My sternum would get so tight it would pop like

vertibrae realigning.

 

Any how i was able to achieve one breath per minute for 20 30

minutes.It was powerful and until now had not considered it again.

 

Thank you for this recomendation for it rings true.Your words feel

familiar and right .

 

Now to the willingness of action where one has struggled with just

doing it.

 

I like the words you chose about the mind being hungry and needing to

feed on the subtle energies observed through meditation to be

nourished.

 

I have lived my life constantly engaging my digestive energies to

feel normal.I know that this is a phallacy yet I was and still am to

a great degree unable most of the time to stop these behaviors.

 

This day I will use the breathing you recomended.I have of recent

been concluding my sun salutions with mountain posture and standing

meditation(sitting hurts my back right now)After my breath calms I

have been taking cold showers for 5 to ten minute.This has been

giving me great energy and a feeling of starting my day cleansed as

opposed to doped and achey.Do you have any feedback on the showers

aspect of my routine.

 

Much much thanks.Dean

 

 

 

- In Kundaliniyoga, Dharam Singh <pran_yogi@s...> wrote:

> Sat Nam Dean,

> Thanks for sharing your experience. Pain sure can

> bring blessings if we can just let go. This release can

> bring about a sense of a life within

> that may never been if not for the pain (growing pains,

> I think they call it) "Comfort is the disease and pain

> is the cure" is what Yogiji has said. Give thanks for

> all that has been while you are re-establishing your

> SELF.....and give thanks for your breath. It is the kiss

> of God.

> You speak of excessive appetite and your mind racing.

> Think about deepening your meditation. Meditation is the

> way we satisfy our mind and being.

> Without this satisfaction there will be much emptiness

> and chaos and we might try to satisfy this with all the

> wrong things. An incapacity to

> truly still the mind will result in a inability to leap

> into what is real.

>

> "Meditating is a sort of eating, a consumption of subtle energies

which

> are digested by the mind's subtle digestive fire. Meditation is a

> critical element of all daily programs because it satisfies the

mind's

> hunger. In-sufficient or improper meditation keeps the mind hungry,

and

> makes it turn outward through its sense organs to seek satisfaction

from

> sense objects, including especially physical food.

> Use of food to satisfy the mind alone without consideration for the

body

> always leads to disease. Good meditation nourishes the organism so

> thoroughly that the body can maintain itself on less food. Control

of

> desire, which is mental hunger, is the key to longevity and

> immortal-ity.

> Anything can be a meditation, as long as it is sincere and

heartfelt."

> ----Robert Svoboda from "Prakruti"

>

> Gururattan Kaur is right on when she

> said "answers you are looking for

> are inside you". Take her advice regarding fear. When

> we're relating to pranic body, fear is not a reality. My

> bit of advice is that when you finish

> your set and meditation with 20-20-20 breath. Inhale 20

> secs, suspend breath without straining, and as

> consciously as possible exhale for 20

> seconds. Allow yourself to be confronted(?) by this. Work

> up to 11 minutes. If 20 seconds has you jumping out of

> your skin go for 15 seconds. Start

> with 3 minutes minimum. Master your breath and you'll

> master your mind.

> Peace and welcome on board,

> Dharam Singh

[Guest guest]

I would do cold shower first(see attachment) Cold water after might be

invigorating but what we're after is a steadiness.....your Vata is already

is already pretty irritated. Warm to slightly cool to finish is good. If your

yoga/meditation was fulfilling this will be nice.

In addition to the physiological effects cold water breaks the teeth of any

illusion that we are separate. We will always get into trouble when we

feel we are alone or that we accomplish things only by our own power (e.g.. did

you make the roads that you drive on to work? It took all of our

taxes to pay for it). Sure God helps those who help themselves but after a point

in the cycle we all have to let all go (exhale) with the trust

that GOD will refill our cup (inhale). A cold shower takes ya out of your mind

and we are forced to feel it with our body, and since addressing

the body speaks to the 90% of our being that is unconscious we are having a

rather intense and open conversation (through the language of breath,

awareness and intention) with the unknown. Massaging almond or sesame oil all

over before sort of "smooths" out the shock [of the cold water] to

the nerve endings. Olive oil (with a hint of sandalwood) is good for cooling and

pacifying Pitta. Wear shorts to protect nerves on the inner thigh

and groin that regulate mineral balance. Massage where water hits and do breath

of fire. You can step in and out of water but keep rubbing and

breathing.

We can talk about your back pain later.

Gotta run,

Dharam

 

 

mproctorathbcicom wrote:

 

> Dharam Singh,

> Thank you for your response.

>

> Guru rattn kaur thank you as well,

>

> I am moved by this feedback.Yes I have signed up for on line

> lessons.As soon as I'm able I will be ordering the suggested

> literature.

>

> This 20 20 20 breathing you reffered to.I was actually doing this for

> a while when I first stopped using substances.

>

> My healer coached me to slow my breath.To really slow my breath.This

> I did with her while I was on her treatment table.You see at that

> time I was unable to be still at all unless under her care.My

> breathing was shallow and rapid.I carried a constant rubber band

> tension in my sternum that would never relent.I felt like I was

> choking all the time.My sternum would get so tight it would pop like

> vertibrae realigning.

>

> Any how i was able to achieve one breath per minute for 20 30

> minutes.It was powerful and until now had not considered it again.

>

> Thank you for this recomendation for it rings true.Your words feel

> familiar and right .

>

> Now to the willingness of action where one has struggled with just

> doing it.

>

> I like the words you chose about the mind being hungry and needing to

> feed on the subtle energies observed through meditation to be

> nourished.

>

> I have lived my life constantly engaging my digestive energies to

> feel normal.I know that this is a phallacy yet I was and still am to

> a great degree unable most of the time to stop these behaviors.

>

> This day I will use the breathing you recomended.I have of recent

> been concluding my sun salutions with mountain posture and standing

> meditation(sitting hurts my back right now)After my breath calms I

> have been taking cold showers for 5 to ten minute.This has been

> giving me great energy and a feeling of starting my day cleansed as

> opposed to doped and achey.Do you have any feedback on the showers

> aspect of my routine.

>

> Much much thanks.Dean

>

> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My

Groups), or send mail to

> Kundaliniyoga

> NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!

> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga

>

> KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from

> kundalini yogaclasses.html

>

> Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga &

Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs.

>

> Your use of is subject to