Planetary Formulas

[Guest guest]

I have received several off-list questions about my last post, ...you

poor, long-suffering men! ;-)

 

Planetary Formulas do not sell to the public but if you search on the

product names, you can find sources.

A local health food store orders it for me from Planetary, call around:

http://www.planetaryformulas.com/

 

Women's Dong Quai Treasure

http://www.iherb.com/treasure.html

Women's Dong Quai Tonifier

http://www.springvalleyherbs.com/catalog.x2?itemID=565

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What's in this dong quai women's treasure? You can get the dried herbs (if

you can get it without sulfur its better), and depending what they are (for

the amount) preserve them in vodka or brandy. (I like the brandy) After

about 6 weeks, I take out the solid herb, boil it in water to get out the

last dregs of essence and then preserve the herb water that has been boiled

(45 min) in the alcohol essence. Then you drink it whenever you what when

you need it. It will keep that way. Dong quai is a food herb, so you don't

have to worry about too much. The bugs love it so in the summer store in

the refrigerator or freezer. The alcohol will make it more digestible. If

you want to be yogic, boil away the alcohol before you drink it. Some herbs

are hard to digest and this method is very good for making them digestible.

I often take just those difficult to digest herbs and mineral and store them

in brandy to be used with boiling herbs later. The problem with that method

is the wet herb is hard to measure. But generally they are food herbs, or I

measured them before I stored them in the brandy.

 

I took a course on these herbs a year ago and have been playing with them

ever since. This is not how the professionals do it. I think to a

profession this method would be too much trouble, but it makes sense to me

when I know what I need.

[Guest guest]

On Tuesday, May 7, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Ellen Madono wrote:

 

> What's in this dong quai women's treasure?

 

 

Helen, I think your brandy mixture sounds great!

The following are ingredient lists, the first Dong Quai Treasure has the

same ingredients as prescribed for me by a wonderful Chinese Herbalist

in San Francisco's :

 

http://www.planetaryformulas.com/

 

Women's Dong Quai Treasure

http://www.iherb.com/treasure.html

Women's Dong Quai Tonifier

http://www.springvalleyherbs.com/catalog.x2?itemID=565

 

Women's Dong Quai Treasure:

Calcium 92 mg

Dong Quai 256 mg

Cramp Bark 160 mg

Blue Chose Root 80mg

Proprietary Blend: 944 mg:

Rehmannia Root, Dong Quai Root, White Peony Root, Atractylodes Rhizome,

Ligusticum Rhizome, Mouton Peony Root Ginger Root, and Poria Cocos

Sclerotium

 

Women's Dong Quai Tonifier

Ingredients:

Dong Quai Root Extract 131 mg

Proprietary Blend: 769 mg:

White Peony Root, Atractylodes Root, Codonopsis Root, Rehmannia Root,

Poria Cocos Sclerotium, Molasses, Ligusticum Rhizome and Licorice Root.

 

Women's Dong Quai Treasure

http://www.iherb.com/treasure.html

Women's Dong Quai Tonifier

http://www.springvalleyherbs.com/catalog.x2?itemID=565

 

 

 

-cris

 

Cris Naugle

SpiralXdesign, Inc

http://www.spiralxdesign.com

 

Walk in Beauty

[Guest guest]

I've never posted before, so I'm not even sure that I'm sending mail to

the right place. (if not, could someone instruct me as to how to post a

message? thanks!)

 

Regarding herbal formulas to treat what one of my teachers called "lady

problems", I wanted to make sure that women are aware that in Chinese

Medicine there are many, many different possible symptom patterns and

that a formula that works for your friend might actually exacerbate

your condition. I urge anyone thinking about taking herbs to consult

with a qualified herbalist. The right formula can really work wonders,

but it can be tricky figuring out which one is right for your

particular symptomatology and history.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Eva

 

 

 

Mother's Day is May 12th!

 

[Guest guest]

I think that these tonifiers are pretty benign. There can be a problem with

them if you have an active infection or as the chinese say a pathogen. Then

you do not want to strengthen the pathogen. So directly after you have been

sick or during a sickness, you want to avoid them.

 

It is true that there are many nuances to diagnosis. If you can't see an

herbalist, which is the best thing to do, then trying a tonic formula that

is relatively generalized is not harmful. If it does not help you, then

stop. You may waste time and money. I know a lot about my constitution

and I read about the formulas, so I feel comfortable experimenting. Even if

I saw an herbalist which I do occasionally, I want to know about what I am

taking.

[Guest guest]

I couldn't find an exact reference to this formula. It looks like a

combination of Western herbs and Chinese herbs and the mineral calcium. It

would be the classical 8 treasures formula if it had the strong tonifier

Codonopsis or Ginsing and ginger seems to stand in for licorice root as a

digestive herb. Thus, it is a variation on 8 treasures (below). I think

maybe it is meant to reduce cramping during your period???

> Women's Dong Quai Treasure:

> Calcium 92 mg

> Dong Quai 256 mg

> Cramp Bark 160 mg

> Blue Chose Root 80mg

> Proprietary Blend: 944 mg:

> Rehmannia Root, Dong Quai Root, White Peony Root, Atractylodes Rhizome,

> Ligusticum Rhizome, Mouton Peony Root Ginger Root, and Poria Cocos

> Sclerotium

>

This seems to be the classical 8 treasures formula. I have added in the

number of grams to be used over one week.

> Women's Dong Quai Tonifier

> Ingredients:

> Dong Quai Root Extract 131 mg = 36-48 g.

>

 

Proprietary Blend: 769 mg:

> White Peony Root= 36 g. , Atractylodes Root 27 g., Codonopsis Root 54 g,

Rehmannia Root = 45 g,

> Poria Cocos Sclerotium 48 , Molasses, Ligusticum Rhizome = 18 g. and

Licorice Root 9 g.

>

>This formula is to tone chi and blood. If you were very weak and also

cold, you would substitute American ginsing for codonopsis and use only 18

grams. The symptoms are a sallow complexion (a lack of blood), pale tongue

(with a milky coating) (weak digestion), very weak pulse, and defiency in

the spleen (digestion) and lungs. These are felt in the pulse but you can

observe it in digestive and breathing difficulties. (By the way, if you do

your yoga, it is much easier to feel the pulse, but unfortunately most

people cannot be objective enough to feel their own pulse.)

 

Also there are emotional components. You are sad and do a lot of worrying.

You may use food for comfort or attempt to structure problems out of your

life.

 

I personally would not fit this profile. I have more of a kidney yin

deficiency and I would take something else.

 

The molasses is not traditional. Since this is already a very sweet

mixture, I might not put in the molasses. These herbs do not taste bad.

( I am very tolerant to weird tastes) It is good in a tincture (brandy) and

is meant to be taken over many month. That is, it is weak and slow acting.

Tonfiers are like that. You can use less herbs with a tincture. Try to get

unsulfered herbs. Remember that bugs like to eat Dang guei. They won't

touch it if it is sulfered.

 

The rehemania is particularily hard to digest and best if soaked in brandy.

The others can be also boiled for an hour and the liquid poured off for

drinking. I measure out many weeks worth and soak it just to save time.

That is, after I have determined that this formula is the best for me.

Before that when you are experiementing, it is easy to just boil the herbs

in a crock pot.

[Guest guest]

On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 11:48 PM, Ellen Madono wrote:

 

The molasses is not traditional. Since this is already a very sweet

mixture, I might not put in the molasses. These herbs do not taste bad.

 

Ellen,

You discourses on this subject have been very interesting. I enjoyed

reading them.

These two formulas are in pill form available from Plantetary Formulas,

so changes in the formula would be difficult.

I had mentioned them only because they contained the exact same

ingredients as I received in herb form from a very elderly Traditional

Chinese herbalist I went saw in San Francisco. His prescription did not

contain molasses as in these pills, but the amount of molasses would

probably be small and most likely used to bind in pill form.

He had me boil 1 pound packages of his herb mixture in one cup of water

for ten minutes and drink daily, a new package for ten days, (btw, it

was an interesting experience getting on my flight home to Boston with

my backpack full of 10 1lb plastic bags of herbs). It was a vile taste

for me and I was very relieved to find the same ingredients in pill

form ;-) I am sure they are not as strong or potent as the tea he had me

make but he had also told me to only take the tea for ten days and if

needed add a weaker version for maintenance. I have been taking this for

two years, I no longer have bad cramps, my endrometriosis and fibroid

symptoms have vanished and I also no longer have pms, which had caused

significant problems.

This pill works great for me and only offered it as a suggestion to

others. I had undergone very painful surgery which had me on short term

disability for six weeks, this has kept me from repeating this

unpleasant experience.

I enjoy reading your wealth of wisdom, it has been great to read why

this has worked for me.

best wishes

-cris

walk in beauty