Guest guest Posted May 20, 2002 Report Share Posted May 20, 2002 also available as a Word attachment. Make requests off post. Sodarshan Chakra Kriya Meditation 12/12/90 Italy, 8/91 Espanola By Yogi Bhajan, Ph.D. Sit with a straight spine. Focus the eyes at the tip of the nose. Block the right nostril with the right thumb tip, the other fingers pointing straight up. Inhale slowly and deeply through the left nostril. Then hold the breath by suspending. the action of breathing and lifting the chest slightly. Keep the chin locked in jalandhara Bhanda (chin lock)- Mentally chant the mantra "Whahe Guru" 16 times as you hold the breath. With each repetition of the mantra, pump the navel point three times in pace with Wha+he+Gu+Ru. This is a total of 48 pumps per breath. Then unblock the right nostril, place the index or little finger over the left nostril to block it. Then exhale slowly and deeply through the right nostril. Continue for 11-62 minutes. Then inhale, hold the breath 5 to 15 seconds and exhale. Stretch the arms up and shake every part of your body for one minute. Comments: This is one of the greatest meditations you can practice. According to the tantra shastras, it can make you perfect your potential and be a superhuman human. It purifies your past and the subconscious impulses that may block you from fulfilling and balance all the 27 facets of the life and mental projection. It gives you the pranic power of health and healing. It establishes inner happiness and a state of flow and ecstasy in life. The kriya never fails. To gain these benefits requires different efforts from different people. Each mind has stored up its own pile of negative thought and energy. So each pit is cleaned on its own time and scale. You decide how much time you have and you need to invest in this practice. Begin with 31 minutes. Increase it to 40 then to 62 and finally to 2 1/2 hours a day!. It is said that if you perfect the practice for 1/10th of the day, it gives you "Nao niddhi athara siddhi"; that is you will get the nine precious virtues and the 18 occult powers. It opens your inner universe to relate, co-create and complete the external universe. Treat the practice with reverence and increase your depth, dimensions, caliber and happiness. It gives you a new start against all odds. It saves you when internal pressures have become too great for any external influence or solution. It gives you the ability to stimulate your self from inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2002 Report Share Posted May 20, 2002 Sat Nam Preeti, Dharam Sodarshan is sort of tricky until you've done it a week or so, especially the number of pumps synchronized with the mantra. "pump the navel point three times in pace with Wha+he+Gu+Ru. This is a total of 48 pumps per breath." I had to get input on the above too, its: pump on 'Wha', pump on 'he', pump on 'Guru'. I always find for myself its easier to count the number of WhaHeGurus instead of each individual pump. This was a great kriya for me and I want to go back and do it for a year, my original goal. Next time, less the distractions. Preeti, be sure to do more yoga, if you're doing Sodarshan for more than 31 minutes a day. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 "pump the navel point three times in pace with Wha+he+Gu+Ru. This is a total of 48 pumps per breath." wha he gu ru makes 4 pumps not 3...is it essentual? Nicole. ===== Walk In Beauty LAUNCH - Your Music Experience http://launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 Preeti, be sure to do more yoga, if you're doing Sodarshan for more > than 31 minutes a day. > > > Brad Sat Nam, I love Sodarshan kirya too. By do more yoga do you mean more of the physical movement yoga? Gian Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 Sat Nam, Gian Yes, I distinguish between 'full-blown' meditation, and asanas. "By do more yoga do you mean more of > the physical movement yoga?" Yes, I was even taking a Hatha class (it was free what the...)to get some more asana, on top of any KY class I took or taught. For me it wasn't really a choice, you may be different. Blessings Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 So full blown meditation is the holding of a posture (asana?) for a longer length of time? Or the repetition of the same movement over a long period of time. During teacher training Yogi B. laughed when someone else asked this question. He implied that they are all the same, or so I thought at the time. It's all a matter of how you do them?? - "ajana6chakra" <sixthchakra <Kundaliniyoga> Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:35 PM Re: Sodarshan Chakra Kriya > Sat Nam, Gian > > Yes, I distinguish between 'full-blown' meditation, and asanas. > "By do more yoga do you mean more of > > the physical movement yoga?" > > Yes, I was even taking a Hatha class (it was free what the...)to get > some more asana, on top of any KY class I took or taught. For me it > wasn't really a choice, you may be different. > > Blessings > > > Brad > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 I see I'm coming across clear as mud, Ellen. No I consider yoga asanas to be different completely from meditation. I do yoga so I can do my meditation. Some lump alltogether under KY, thats fine I just look at it differently. I also do Vipassana (watch the breath) meditation. So to me there's yoga and there's meditation. My original point about yoga and Sodarshan, or any powerful meditation was this: we do yoga to prepare for meditation, so you might find you'll need to do even more for Sodarshan, I did. Blessings Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 I've never practiced just meditation, but I know that during "meditation" you are not supposed to move. I stop and look at the clock, move my neck to get a crick out of it, etc. I know it would be better if I would not give in like that, but I am rarely perfectly still... except when i have plenty of time and after the prescribed meditation, I just continue to sit. Having to time the practice is useful in that I get it done in a predictable time frame. The problem is I always have time on my mind. - "Brad Greenstreet" <sixthchakra <Kundaliniyoga> Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:57 PM Re: Re: Sodarshan Chakra Kriya > > > I see I'm coming across clear as mud, Ellen. No I consider yoga asanas to be different completely from meditation. I do yoga so I can do my > meditation. > > Some lump alltogether under KY, thats fine I just look at it differently. I also do > Vipassana (watch the breath) meditation. So to me there's yoga and there's meditation. > > My original point about yoga and Sodarshan, or any powerful meditation was this: > > we do yoga to prepare for meditation, so you might find you'll need to do even more > for Sodarshan, I did. > > Blessings > > > Brad > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 thank you brad i also do vipassanna and am new to KY-some friends are hestitant to try KY and they are some difficulty with vipassanna-what do you consider the best basic book on vipassanna. thanks, again peace susan remember the earth was not given to you by your parents it was lent to you by your children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Hi Ellen, The problem is I always have time on my mind. Go deeper, do Sodarshan for 31-62 minutes. Mind goes through phases. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Please let me know how you do Sudarsan Chakra Kriya Thanking you Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 Sat Nam Susan, The vipassana I meet with a group, who are far more into Buddhism. I will email them and get back with you on the book. There's absolutely nothing to fear over KY. In fact after you start you will find, as I did and probably others on this board, that fears will come up from time to time in different kriyas, or meditations and you'll realize they really have no basis no power, except in our minds. But thats what KY is about letting the kundalini gently open the chakras, clear blocks. Every week practically there is someone new posting similar comments about wanting to try KY but being fearful usually because of all the BS floating around in print and on the web. Yes, I read the horrifying accounts too. Stephen King should use it as material for his next movie.:-) Start with some easy KY kriya from kundaliniyoga.org, like basic breath series. Blessings Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 That's hilarious!....Stephen King indeed. Actually I have this well done sci-fiction story somewhere is storage entitlted the "Serpent of Kundalini". I was actually a real mindblower and about an hour's read. If I find it I'll let folks know...but don't forget to keep Sat Nam, Wahe Guru in mind. Sat Nam, Dharam Brad Greenstreet wrote: > Every week practically there is someone new posting similar comments about wanting to try KY but being fearful usually because of all the BS > floating around in > print and on the web. Yes, I read the horrifying accounts too. Stephen King should use it as material for his next movie.:-) > > Start with some easy KY kriya from kundaliniyoga.org, like basic breath series. > > Blessings > > Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 Sat Nam Brad, 62 minutes is a challenge for someone who feels there is not enough time. I'll try it for the Memorial Day week-end. I spend that much time moving from one Kriya to another. Dabbling. That's kind of how I live my life, busy. Concentrating on one kriya would be more effective, huh? I can't do the 48 pumps of the lower bandha, but Sodashan is the easiest and the most appealing of anything I have ever done. When I am not thinking of doing anything, I find myself doing Sodarshan. Is that a sign that it is good for me? I so much appreciate being able to communicate with the yogi(nis) in this group. People who share the yoga passion are not just everywhere. Just being able to communicate passing thoughts helps with the isolation. Why is it not enough to just be closer to the divine? Why is the company of the "holy" so important? It's all the same isn't it? The divine=the company of the holy in all of us. Getting a thoughtful response the way I usually do, is outside the normal range of experience. Thank-you. Sat Nam. - "Brad Greenstreet" <sixthchakra <Kundaliniyoga> Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:10 AM Re: Re: Sodarshan Chakra Kriya > > > Hi Ellen, > > The problem is I always have time on my mind. > > Go deeper, do Sodarshan for 31-62 minutes. Mind goes through phases. > > Brad > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 Hi Ellen, "62 minutes is a challenge for someone who feels there is not enough time." I'm sure you have alot of demands on your time, children, husband, work, or whatever. The post Dharam made about the times and what they effect is telling though. Try for 31 minutes at least. "Spend most of my time dabbling, going from one kriya to the next." The same flightiness that manifests itself in your meditation it sounds like. Stick with Sodarshan, make it a goal to work up to 31 minutes, if you can find the time go to 45 or 42 minutes. The only way you will realize the effect of meditation on your consciouness is if you can slow your mind, your flirting with it but not giving it a real go it sounds like. You have to give sufficient time IN the meditation itself and over a period of AT LEAST 30 days to see real LONG-TERM benefits from it. On the pumping, your not pulling any bhandas, just pumping the navel, right?! Your a soldier, you just have to realize it. Keep up! Sat Nam Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 When I pump, I think I pull up the lowest bhanda (under the sex organs) and with the naval point, naturally the diaphram is lifted. No? I often pull up the lowest bhanda when I am sitting or even during my daily life. Tucking the sacrum and stretching the neck just get me feeling more connected. After 62 minutes of Sodarshan Chakra, I went out driving and I was really out of it. I sat through a green turn signal and went on red. Also, after I got out of the dentist chair (no pain today), I was dizzy and continue to be dizzy since then. I should have shook my hands around my head more? I feel that my neutral mind is working, but I don't like feeling dizzy. I have done 31 minutes of Sodarshan Chakra for 90 days before. I think I am pulling harder, just because I am stronger than I was then. This morning I did 62 minutes with 2 rests where I actually laid down and 2 times when I looked at the clock and once turning off the heater and going to the bathroom before one of the rests. That isn't 62 minutes is it? At Tantric, my mind really goes into another realm, but not when I am looking at the clock etc. In the evening before I went to bed I did 31 minutes probably looking at the clock 2 times. I was so tired it was really hard not stopping. I found that I can do the 48 pumps. - "Brad Greenstreet" <sixthchakra <Kundaliniyoga> Friday, May 24, 2002 10:54 AM Re: Re: Sodarshan Chakra Kriya > Hi Ellen, > > "62 minutes is a challenge for someone who feels there is not enough time." > I'm sure you have alot of demands on your time, children, husband, work, or whatever. The post Dharam made about the times and what they effect > is telling though. Try for 31 minutes at least. > "Spend most of my time dabbling, going from one kriya to the next." The same > flightiness that manifests itself in your meditation it sounds like. Stick with Sodarshan, make it a goal to work up to 31 minutes, if you can > find the time go to 45 or 42 minutes. The only way you will realize the effect of meditation on your consciouness is if you can slow your mind, > your flirting with it but not giving it a real go it sounds like. You have to give sufficient time IN the meditation itself and over a period of > AT LEAST 30 days to see real LONG-TERM benefits from it. > On the pumping, your not pulling any bhandas, just pumping the navel, right?! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 Sat Nam Ellen, It takes a while to integrate at a new level when you move up in time. I move up when I began to feel 'normal'. Sounds like you could get a lot out of this if you wanted. Whats holding you back? Whats with this looking at the clock? Are you the person that rolls over and looks at the clock to see if its time to get up? Tell yourself next time you do Sodarshan, with intent, that you are doing 62 mins without looking at the clock, and just do it. Admittedly during some of my meditations, I don't go very deep and my mind stays active. When I do that usually I find its because my eyes are focused where they should be. Keep the focus and keep the mantra, AND THATS ALL. Yes, I always did the three squeezes at the end and I shook for at least a minute. Arms, whole body. If you can get past the superficial levels on this, you may have some awesome experience. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like you're holding back or something. Congrats on the 62 (almost)! I'm glad to see you REALLY can do the 48 pumps. For me meditations really bring home what YB says about White Tantric, it tests the limits you thought you had. Blessings Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 Sat Nam Brad, I woke up this morning terribly dizzy. I'm going to do the Sodarshan now, but maybe the dizziness has nothing to do with it. I was laying down as I had been on the dentist chair yesterday when I felt so dizzy. Please help me with this. I have a natural and usually comfortable low blood pressure. I was dizzy before when i was in a very stressful situation (I felt students were attacking me) I feel attacked now, but I am not shaking at all or really worrying about the vulnerability so I does not feel the same as the last time I was dizzy. I am going to do grounding exercises before I start sodarshan and after. Probably I am pulling up too hard with the first chakra. I will do it today with less force. I have to teach a class and give two shiatsus before i get back here so I need some divine help. You're right I am holding back. This business of doing work (teaching middle school where I am going crazy) that brings out all of my weaknesses is a way to avoid doing what I can really do well (teach yoga and do shiatsu). I'm just holding back from organizing my life so I really do have time for yoga and meditation. Doing what I can easily do means working from my strengths. Not looking at the clock and organizing my life so that I can do what I really want to do is essential. Working on weakness is like the Christian working on sin. Instead do what I can easily do, (like not looking at the clock), to pull everything else up. Don't worry about the weaknesses and put myself in situations where my strengths are leading me. Strengths are divine gifts (guru pursand). They will cut through difficult karma (lack of committment to structure and organization, a need to constantly listen more to my personal guru to know how much to say to people when. Do most of my communication with people in silence but communicate the essential structural elements explicitly.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 Sat Nam Ellen, If you really feel dizzy, then go carefully or use your own judgment. "Probably I am pulling up too hard with the first chakra." No pulling up, you are just gently pumping the navel, like breath of fire but much slower, with the mantra. Blessings Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 On previous post referring to meditation: do "at least 30 days" meant 40 days. Sat Nam Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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