Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Dear Gian Kaur and everyone else, You have said that you are doing Sodarshan Chakra Kryia for 2 1/2 hours. Your devotion is commendable but I have a question about the feasibility of this endeavor. So here are my thoughts that I invite you to check out with your own guidance. You, like almost all of us, have a job that is demanding, ie you have to support yourself. Adding any more stress is counterproductive. Your spiritual practices should be tailored to reduce your stress. It seems to me like 62 minutes would be totally ample. I am sure you could totally get into the 62 minutes and not have the distractions of having to go to the bathroom, etc. Then you can relax afterwards and integrate the effects of the meditation. Do you get up and run off right after the 2 1/2 hours? If so this is not good. You should lie down and totally relax for 15 to 30 minutes and at least 15 minutes for the 62 minutes. The universe is a perfect balance of masculine-feminine energies. Doing the meditation and yoga is male. Integrating and relaxing is the feminine, which allows you to become and be what you have just practiced. Spiritual burn out is a serious problem over 40 and 50 if we just add more stress to our lives. I know it is a challenge to balance being in the world and integrating our spiritual practices. One rule of thumb, is that if you feel more tired and stressed out, then you need to modify your routine. KY and the meditations given by Yogi Bhajan are fabulous because they produce transformation in such a short period of time. Do what you do with intent and as much concentration as you can and you will be able to achieve a lot in a reasonable amount of time, feel great, and get enough sleep too. I feel your routine is deficient on the feminine, relaxation, integration, being present with what is side. This is probably true for many of us. Check it out. And blessings eveyone on your path. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Sat Nam Everyone, Gururattan Kaur thank you for this posting and great insight. It has been very meaningful to me and I am in agreement with your approach. I find that if I do 15 minutes of Sat Kriya and do not rest and relax completely after for at least another 15 to 20 minutes then my nerves are on edge for the rest of the day. So the proper relaxation is very important. Remember we are dealing with powerful energy and fragile nervous systems. Sincerely yours Hari Sant Singh Kindness has no defeat. Caring has no end. And touching people's hearts is the only language God knows. >Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, >front doors, drawers, briefcases, >padlocks, and more. On sale now! >http://us.click./ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/bpSolB/TM >---~-> > >"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to >Kundaliniyoga >NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! >WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > >KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from >kundalini yogaclasses.html > >Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > >Your use of is subject to ___________ SikhNet - http://www.SikhNet.com ___________ Get news on Sikhism and the Sikhnet web site Sign up at http://www.SikhNet.com/ ___________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 I certainly very strongly agree with Gordon and Gururattan. A lot of people nowadays are teaching kundalini yoga without sufficient relaxation and also practicing it without sufficient relaxation. YB told me personally, always follow yoga with a nice deep relaxation in corpse pose and my experience has proven that to be true and wise. Many of my students like corpose pose more than anything. Seva Simran Singh Gordon Price wrote: > Sat Nam Everyone, > Gururattan Kaur thank you for this posting and great insight. It has been very meaningful to me and I am in agreement with your approach. I find that if I do 15 minutes of Sat Kriya and do not rest and relax completely after for at least another 15 to 20 minutes then my nerves are on edge for the rest of the day. So the proper relaxation is very important. Remember we are dealing with powerful energy and fragile nervous systems. > > Sincerely yours > Hari Sant Singh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 Sat Nam Gururattan Kaur, Thank-you so much for your compassionate concern. I know I sounded crazy. I was trying to understand what Gurucharan wrote about the effects of Sodarshan Chakra. Also, I was trying out what Brad said about if you do the pranayama longer, it gets easier to hold the concentration. I found that was true, but I was much more relaxed than I normally am. It was over the Memorial Day week-end so I could afford to experiment. Now I am back at work and as you say, I am doing just 62 minutes and I do need to rest afterwards. Even on the week-end I can't do longer. Having a lot of stress from work, it seems harder to do the daily practice and also more important. My mind is busy processing the chaotic scenes and interactions that I have taken in from the day and meditation in a calm way is difficult to attain. My daughter say I am so preoccupied with Sadhana that I am not thinking enough about the practical actions that I need to take. (This does not seem correct in the sense that sometimes Sadhana is dominated by thoughts of practical actions and it takes a big chunk of my sadhana just to lift myself out the of that obcession). I seem to be reassessing through Sadhana and very unsure that my actions are coming from the right place or with the appropriate intent to begin with. Clearly some of the energy for Sadhana comes from practical experimentation with living in the world and a balance between internal and external activity needs to be maintained. Counter to that common sense, I have a deep desire to just withdraw. Every step to stay out there struggling with practical existence gets more difficult as I question my internal intent and resources during Sadhana. I think to myself, if I spent more time meditating, maybe I would not feel so burnt out by daily life as a social creature. I am not really thinking clearly about these things when I meditate, but that seems to be the outcome. Does this description have elements of "spiritual burn out." Before all this meditation, I was much more daring or less concerned about making the "right" choice and finding an appropriate path for who I am. Who I am and my intent was less of a concern. Life was an experiement that I wandered though willy-nilly. I could learn from anything and just go on to the next experience. Now that does not seem sufficient. I need to be coming from Sat Nam. That experience is always fleeting. Sat Nam Gian Kaur (Ellen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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