Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Namaste Nurcarnation,How well explained, thank you very much ji. All by Ma’s grace alone ………………………..Correct me if I am wrong ji, the true knowledge seem to be the knowledge of self i.e. self-realizing. If bhakti brings you to that extend then there would be no difference between bhakti and jyana as both takes the adjyana away, to realise the true self - BRAHMAN. Yes bhakthi can be divide as para and apara bhakthi.In lower sense it satisfies the devotee in higher level the devotee realize he is the bliss itself. Yes he is Satchitananda which is the nature of Brahman not is Brahman but the nature of the Brahman. The devotee’s nature is of absolute existence (sat ) absolute consciousness that pervades everywhere(chit) and his very nature is always in state of bliss(ananda). Lets work on the next verse jiVerse 7sa na kamyamana nirodharupatvaat Sa (that) na kamyamana (does not require anything else) rupatvat (being the nature of) nirodha (control) That (Devotion) does not require anything else as it is the nature of control. Which means by attaining devotion you would not require anything else as it by itself (devotion) controls/restraints. Nirodha here means restrain or control. Restraint or control of what would be mentioned in next verse but we know by devotion you would not require anything else, which means there is elimination of further desires. Patanjali Yoga sutra says" Yoga chitta vritti nirodha". Yoga is restraint of mental modification of mind. And mental modification or thought waves does not arise in the mind when there is cessation of desires. This is in line with this verse which says by having pure devotion it eliminates manifestation of desire as well. Thus bhakthi can be divided into 2 forms para and apara bhakthi ; Lower level- devotion that is a means to and end (has still an element of desire for fulfillment). Devotion to obtain something. Higher level – devotion that is end of the mean. Devotion without no more desires but for sake of devotion itself. Bhakthi as cessation of desire itself. Sage Narada is referring to the para b) higher level of devotion which is the nature of the person he have mentioned to have the qualities in verse 5 and verse 6 earlier. This person of supreme love does not seek God as a means for an end but for him God is an end in itself. Jai Maa!! Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 Namaste Krishnanji, I am sorry for this delay ji. Lets work on the next verse as fast as possible. As we will not know when we will be called by god (death). Verse 7. sa na kamayamana nirodharupatvat thank you very much ji. children of kali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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