Kali - Blood Offering

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This may sound weird to some of you, but i offer my own blood to

Kali, usually at the dark moon. I simply prick my finger and annoint

my Kali statue in the third eye. Ever since i started doing this, my

link with Her has become much stronger. It is not for the faint of

heart, but either is Ma Kali.

 

I will post a pic of the West quarter with a pic of my Kali statue

at our Lughnasadh ritual to the pics section. We have three members

in our circle. I work with Kali at the West, the others work with

Araidne at the North quarter, and Hekate at the East, South reserved

for God, Lugh in last ritual.

 

Kadesh

 

Kali_Ma, kalipadma@j... wrote:

>

> I'm having a Senior Moment, but there's an American feminist who

wrote an

> essay to the effect that there is a Western Kali, and an Eastern

Kali.

> That so many non-Hindus have been attracted to Kali, that they

have built

> up a thought-form of this feminist, women-liberating Goddess who

can be

> worshipped in a Wiccan or Neo-Pagan manner. Meanwhile, Hindus

continue

> to worship Kali with Puja offerings, and see Her as the force

behind Maya

> (the world of illusion), surrendering their preconceptions to the

> Goddess.

>

> As someone who often teaches Neo-Pagans about Kali (and other Hindu

> goddesses), I've noted a tendancy for Westerners to come to me,

saying,

> "I'm really into Dark Goddesses. How do I sacrifice an animal to

Kali?

> Can I offer Her a hamburger?"

>

> My usual response is, "the dark is only part of the cycle of Life.

> Respect is due to Dark Goddesses, but also pay attention to the

Light

> Goddesses. I feel that anyone drawn to Kali should also revere

Light

> Goddesses like Lakshmi or Durga. Most Hindus worship Durga during

the

> waxing phases of the Moon, and Kali during the waning phases."

>

> So far as sacrifice is concerned, I recommend sacrificing one's

ego,

> delusions and misconceptions. If you haven't been trained in

methods of

> animal slaughter, don't attempt to kill anything for Kali. Only

male

> animals are offered at Kali temples that perform sacrifice, and no

Hindu

> will kill a cow or bull -- they are sacred animals, symbolizing

Mother

> Earth. The point of sacrifice is not to offer dead meat to the

Goddess,

> but to pass life energy. I'd almost recommend using Aleister

Crowley's

> offering of "a perfect, unborn man-child" -- i.e., freshly

ejaculated

> semen. But that, of course, is also taboo in Hinduism.

>

> -- Len/ Kalipadma

>

>

> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Maha Kali Tara Ma

> <jai_ma_kali> writes:

> > Quite honestly I am a witch and I am very devoted to Kali. She

comes

> > in my dreams many times and there were times when I needed to

> > magickally defend myself and she came in my dreams and allowed

it. I

> > had actually become her. So Charles you do not need to back away

> > from Kali unless this is your True Will.

> > I have the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna and i dont agree with

> > everything he believed. Do you know he was against women being

in

> > the work force? It's there in his own words in the Gospel of

shri

> > Rama Krishna. But I still learn from his words, I still loved

what

> > he did. That does not mean i have to agree with everything he

said.

> > Also I read eighter it was in his gospel or the book called Kali

> > that he asked Kali to heal a friend and offered her green

coconuts

> > for it. When someone he did not want near him he would ask Ma to

> > send him away and then say but if it's your will I will see him.

> >

> > Talking about Bhamakempa now a Saint to Tara he would heal

people in

> > the name of Tara and once he even touched a man and killed

him.Look

> > at the book called Kali by Elizabeth U. harding its there in the

> > chapter about Tara. So what is the difference if I call Tara

into me

> > and do a healing the way i was taught to do so or the way i

> > channeled it from a higher source?

> > I do not believe in just letting things go...That is against my

> > True Will, not my will. I have had many conversations with my

HGA. I

> > do study the works of Aleister Crowley. I was in the OTO. I am

> > devoted to Kali as well. In fact I believe there was an OTO

lodge

> > way back 10 years ago or so named Kali Lodge.

> >

> > So Charles you dont need to give up on Kali.

> > No one can say anything to change what I believe in. I know this

to

> > be the truth, my truth. Remember one person's truth is another

> > person's lie. One person's religion is another person's heresy.

Who

> > is right?

> > Many Christians say that basically we are all going to hell for

> > being devoted to the Goddess or believing in many gods. The

Muslims

> > Koran calls us infidels for not being Muslims. In fact it says

if

> > you see an infidel you must kill them.

> > In the old testament there's a passage where they were told by

god

> > to kill all the Pagans. Then there are some Christians who call

> > worshiping Idols or even praying to one is the Devil's work. So

to

> > them most Hindus and many other religions are doing the Devil's

> > work. Do you see where I'm getting at? Everyone has a belief.

How

> > can a Wiccan tell a Hindu you're wrong for what you believe in

that

> > your devotion is of the lowest form without the Hindu telling

the

> > Wiccan the same thing? I have my own beliefs and I know if I do

a

> > spell the Goddess has ultimate vito power. She can say "nope

you're

> > going to be single for a while" or nope " you're not going to be

a

> > famous singer this year" She has ultimate vito power.

> > So yes I do believe in devotion to the goddess and for anyone

> > telling me my devotion sucks is just plain wrong and even a bit

> > intolerant. I love Kali so much, so very very much that I think

> > about her all day and all night long. No one can tell me that

I'm

> > less devoted to her cause I dont do it "their way." here's my

> > belief as many people so there are many religions.

> > Kalimir

> >

> >

> >

> > Charlie <witchatwork03> wrote:

> > I should add that neither of these swamis have any real

> > knowledge of paganism. All their information is coming

> > out of the tradtional shakta context, and it's likely

> > that they may have some comment regarding paganism that

> > you may or may not want to hear.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > I have followed the posts of yours when people were talking

about

> > paganism and Ma. Everyone has an opinion.

> >

> > It is odd that this thread has come up now. I have been at a

cross

> > roads in my spirituality. I had been considering devoting myself

to

> > Kali. Quite honestly.. after reading your posts.. I am not going

to

> > go thru with it. This is not meant negatively to you or anyone

else.

> > But the blind devotion idea, sorry it is not for me. If I had

wanted

> > that I would have stayed in Christianity.

> >

> > I have come to the point that I realize what I believe in mostly

is

> > myself. I have the power and strength to stand up and control my

> > life. I also believe in the idea of Ma. I look now upon Her as a

> > force that is needed in my life. A role model if you will.

> >

> > I do not feel your way is incorrect. It is simply not the path I

am

> > meant to walk. Nor do I feel that you are more enlightend than I

> > because you can just .. to use a Christian term.. "Let go and

Let

> > God" Or Goddess in this case. You come to Her in blind

> > faith/devotion..,I come to Her as a Witch who cannot give blind

> > devotion but needs Her strength and love in my life. And the

best

> > thing is .. She has both of us.

> >

> > No.. I might not like to hear what a Swami might have to tell me

> > about being a Witch. I live with that with every day. After a

while

> > it makes your skin thick and sometimes makes you start avoiding

the

> > type of person that likes to point out how you are wrong and

they

> > are right. The Gods and the choices I have made in my life made

me

> > who and what I am. To date it has been a grand ride.. I look

forward

> > to whatever else I am given.

> >

> > And why is it that you are typing with a 102 fever? You should

be in

> > the bed with lots of fluids and Tylenol. Hope you feel better.

> >

> > Jai Ma!

> >

> > Charlie

> >

> >

> > As a man thinks in his heart, so is he.

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