Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Namaste ji, thank you very much for the explanation on the first verse. I prefer your explanation as it goes directly to the point and of better understanding. > Contemplate on this ; > > Jai Ganesa !! > > Sarasvatayai Namo Namaha !! > How do I do this ji? Do I just read this or meditate on this? If you as me to meditate that would be difficult as I have never done it before. What is the meaning of the both the mantra and why do you recite it. Is there an inner meaning then just to remover the abstacles and to gain knowledge from Mother Saraswathi. I read with great interest on Mother Chandi. I shall get Chandi Path from Swami Satyananda Saraswathi. Ji,you mentioned about Mahishasuramarthini, it is a whole new picture for me, as I known here only as an avatar of durga that is celebrated during navarathri. What is the proper celebration or prayer that should be done during navarathiri. Verse 2 Sa tvasmin parama-premarupa. I am waiting for your explanation on this verse ji. Thank you for your invitation to visit Kalima2. Children of Kali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Namaste Nurcarnation, How do I do this ji? Do I just read this or meditate on this? If you as me to meditate that would be difficult as I have never done it before. No. Meditation and contemplation does not signify the same process. We will discuss in depth on meditation when the need arise. Request for you to contemplate is to recite the mantra and then assimilate the meaning and the commentaries given . That means to say that you go through the verse and see whether you could formulate any other meaning to it based on your perception. If any please bring it in for discussion no matter how silly or irrelevant it may sound. What is the meaning of the both the mantra and why do you recite it. Is there an inner meaning then just to remover the abstacles and to gain knowledge from Mother Saraswathy. Yes apart form seek blessing from the respective manifestation of the Supreme Divinity we are actually placing the mind in proper atmosphere for learning to take place as the vibration from both of this mantra clears the mind making it conducive for learning process.I read with great interest on Mother Chandi. I shall get Chandi Path from Swami Satyananda Saraswathi. Please do as it is the most authoritative text on Shaktha worship apartfrom Srimad Devi Bhagavatham and Devi Gita .Ji,you mentioned about Mahishasuramarthini, it is a whole new picture for me, as I known here only as an avatar of durga that is celebrated during navarathri. What is the proper celebration or prayer that should be done during navarathiri. The navarathri (nava means nine and rathri is night) Actually signify the whole story of Chandi Path . In ancient days spritualization of daily living became the outmost consideration . That is why Indian festive days of the lore has the element of spirituality on it . The Durga Pooja and Navarathri celebration actually depicts the story of Devi Mahatmaya from manifestation of Maa Chandi(The Unmanifest) to Mahakali (3 days ) Mahalakshmi (3 days ) and Mahasaraswathi (3 days ) to actually destruction of Mahishashura on the tenth day which the devas celebrate as victory day (Vijaya Dasami) for the fall of the asura above . The Slayer of Great Ego (Mahishashuramardini) would manifest in various form to destroy all the asuric forms within like Passion , Anger ,Too Much Too Little , Self Conceit ,Self Depreciation and so forth signified by Chanda, Munda , Madhu , Kaitabha,Sumbha Nisumbha .Finally the Destruction of Great Ego Mashishahura- the leader of the army. The annihilation of the ego within called anava would discard the final veil of ignorance to reveal the Supreme Knowledge of the Self this is realization which would free the atma within form the imaginary limitation it has assumed on it self thus liberation is attained final victory - moksha Verse 2Sa tvasmin parama-premarupa I am waiting for your explanation on this verse ji. We would look at it in next mail…………… Jai Maa!! Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Namaste Nurcarnation, Let us look at the second verse ; Verse 2Sa tvasmin parama-premarupa Sa(that) tvasmin (came form 2 words tu and asmin which signifies towards Him) and parama (supreme), prema (love) rupa (nature of) That(Bhakthi) is the nature of Supreme Love towards Him. The first verse we covered earlier is the introduction and this second verse is the definition of what is meant by bhakthi . >From this definition we can see the discussion here is of supreme love not ordinary feeling we have towards the object of our attraction. Now what is the difference we are talking about . In usual material form of love we love something because of our relationship to it . In love there is expectation but in Supreme Love it is love for love sake .There is no expectation from God nor the devotee.Usually we also love something because it is MY mother , MY girlfriend,MY child etc.or in relation to what we get out of it (expectation of result-cause of attachment) .In supreme love the "I" is not important but only THOU. The "I" disappears . IT is not MY ,YOUR or OUR GOD.That is why there is no fanatism to say my way is the only right way. We even see in the same verse Sage Narada refers to Supreme Being as HIM and not as any specific form to specific religion. Secondly it talks only of the nature of such love but have not defined it ..Because the sage knows the intensity of love in this level could not be defined. It goes beyond the interpretation by using any of the 5 senses. Thus Sage Narada feels suffice to say that it has the nature of supreme love but it still could not be captured by words in it final sense. Thirdly the verse states towards Him and do not use the word towards God or Paramapurusha (Supreme Being) or Brahman . This clearly shows the sage do not limit God with form (Saguna Brahman) or without form(Niguna Brahman) . Neither does he states bhakthi is applicable to a specific form or to specific way of worship only like Vaisvanism ,Saktism ,Shaivism etc.We could clearly deduce from this the applicability and universality of the sutras to cultivate devotion for all form of worship including all form of religion. Jai Maa !!!MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Namaste ji, thank you very much again for your explanation ji.Correct me if I am wrongji. We must show only true love to the Supreme Being. This is where I will always get stuck as I have cultivated myself to learn to give only conditional love i.e. expect something whenever I love something. I expect love from my children, husband and others whenever i show love towards them.I think i have treated mother the same.HOW DO I CHANGE ji? What shall I do to cultivate only pure love towrds her with no expectations? Ji, you have mention about " with form and without form", I am not very well versed with this. Can you please explain further on how this happens. I hope it is not to troubling for you as it is I am expecting to finish Narada Bakti Sutra with you. Ji, it might take nearly 3 - 4 weeks for the Chandi path to arrive. Ji, I would like to start doing proper puja. I have asked a few clarification from srihr_amji on the puja. Do you think I should adopt the puja for a start. I am waiting eagerly for the next verse. Children of Kali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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