Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Dears friends, As far as I know,practising Yoga can result in develloping supernatural abilities,e.g. floating over the ground.Are there any KY kriyas for developing supernatural powers? Dionisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 Hello Dionisis, why do you want to have such supernatural powers? And why are they supernatural? They exist, and so they are natural..., - but joking aside: You don't do Yoga, to reach such powers, you do it, to clean your "garbage" and to heal your body and your soul. Then, perhaps, if you did enough work over a long time, maybe through many lives, it is possible, that you can do or see something, what other people don't can. And then, you have a new job: to help and to heal with this powers. Are you new to this group? I never read your name? Where do you come from? Blessings, Sonja 04.07.02 05:54:48, "Dionisios" <mprgrandmaster wrote: >Dears friends, >As far as I know,practising Yoga can result in develloping supernatural abilities,e.g. floating over the ground.Are there any KY kriyas for developing supernatural powers? > >Dionisis > > > > > > > > >"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to >Kundaliniyoga >NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! >WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > >KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from >kundalini yogaclasses.html > >Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > >Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 Kundaliniyoga, "Dionisios" <mprgrandmaster@h...> wrote: > Dears friends, > As far as I know,practising Yoga can result in develloping supernatural abilities,e.g. floating over the ground.Are there any KY kriyas for developing supernatural powers? > Dear Dionisios, Yes it is possible to develop supernatural powers thru yoga.Through meditation and recitation of a mantra also one can achieve it.Anyone can reach that level by being "pure" in thoughts and in action, followed by lot of meditation.But in the end,when an individual does develop psychic powers or reach higher level (i.e; supernatural powers)then he or she loses interest in developing powers but infact just blends with GOd.What I feel is that some people do start their spiritual journey with a yearn to develop some spiritual powers but the more and more they come closer to God then more and more yearn for acquiring those powers disappears and the yearn to meet God or to "see HIM" appears... Sat Nam jyoti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 Talking about the subject of 'powers' that are 'super', how about the following... Sure we all love to imagine that we really could fly or levitate, like we do in our dream state, or have other powers like moving objects and reading minds. And why not imagine, it's great to let our minds open to our possiblities..... However, what is more, and what is fantastic, and what is available to us here and now, are the humble and yet infinitely powerful qualities that we develop through a consistant devotional daily practice, our sadhana. How about... in place of being able to levitate our bodies into other dimensions, we start with striving towards levitating our minds, beyond the normal petty existance, beyond our instinctual reactions to others weaknesses and into the realm of looking and seeing deeper what is already infront of us. How about... instead of moving objects, we move, inspire, touch and help heal the hearts of others, through our thoughtfulness, our kind words and our actions. and how about... instead of reading others' minds, we develop our own awareness and sensitivity, and thus come to know our own minds, our own beings and our own struggles. So that when we can read ourselves honestly and deeply, we will intuitively have the knowing, the patience, the compassion and love for the struggles of others. Wow, what real power!!! Wahe Guru Krishan Shiva Kaur ___________ SikhNet - http://www.SikhNet.com ___________ Get news on Sikhism and the Sikhnet web site Sign up at http://www.SikhNet.com/ ___________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 Yogi Bhajan told us about when he was young and interested in trying out his powers by dabbling in "black tantric?? Magic???" He was causing thunderstorms and someone told him that he setting his transmigration back thousands of generations. Yogi B's voice all but faded in tears. Playing with the power of the divine suited his childish spirit at the time (he was in his early 20's??), but he quickly realized his mistake and stopped. After he had married and had 3 children, he spent many early mornings (sadhana's) meditating at the Golden Temple in Amritsar. He and his wife would leave the children in the early morning hours, ride on a motorcylce to the temple (and I am not sure how she participated because at that time I don't think women were allowed to participate, but anyway) they did their sadhana. I think it included washing the floors with milk. After some time, I don't remember how long, Guru Ram Das appeared to Yogi B. and told him that he would be forgiven. That is why the compassion of Guru Ram Das is always in Yogi B.'s actions. I was sitting way in the back of a large room listening to this story probably in a daze. I wish someone else who knows more about all of this could tell the story better. The point is, our relationship with the divine is not child's play. Even a great master like Yogi B. can make a childish mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2002 Report Share Posted July 6, 2002 Have you experienced supernatural powers? > > >Dears friends, > >As far as I know,practising Yoga can result in develloping supernatural > abilities,e.g. floating over the ground.Are there any KY kriyas for developing > supernatural powers? > > > >Dionisis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > > - Yogi Bhajan > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 Dear friends Thanks for expressing your thoughts:-)I really appreciate them.I think,though,that you might be able to help me more if i explain why I wish to develop siddhis: a)I could prove that Yoga is true and powerful to them that are against it and believe it a a false system.n this way,my loved ones will practise KY as well.The results would be egoless and pure,wouldn't they? b)Generally,everything that God has given to us is to be utilised and developed ,isn't it?Every God-given gift is to be used and developed by using it with love and serving the mankined. So,isn't there any specific kriya you could reccomend me? Dionisios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Sat Nam, dear friends: Here is another perspective on the "supernatural powers" that people might be interested in. These ideas come from a book called "Beyond the Siddhis" by John McAfee, part of a series of books about yoga, which he provides (free) for yoga centers. J.M. talks about each of the different powers and what Patanjali might have really been trying to say, pointing out that the sutras start by saying that they are meant to provide readers with the tools and understanding necessary to reach the state of self-understanding, a state of oneness with life, a union with God. Nearly a third of the sutras are dedicated to a set of instructions (which we are clearly directed to pursue) and yet, in sutra 3.38, he calls the powers obstacles to this liberation, impediments on the path to enlightenment. Surely this is the height of contradiction, to give us instructions that if followed virtually guarantee failure as measured by his own aim. But Patanjali dedicated 54 of 195 sutras to this issue, and surely he had something specific in mind that had substantial importance to him and therefore, one must assume, to us. J.M. asks, rather tongue in cheek, if the quest for and attainment of these powers is a detriment, why mention them at all (except perhaps for a brief comment to the effect that if you are currently levitating or making yourself invisible, please stop doing so)? The intent of the sutras, of course, is to motivate our self- awareness, to cause us to inquire within so as to see the truth. J.M. feels that Patanjali is using a subtle "sleight of hand" in trying to tell us a deeper truth in the sutras about the powers, which is simply that we already possess these powers (although perhaps not in quite the way we might think without deeper consideration), and that mastery over these powers may mean something different than we might assume at first. For example, consider sutra 3.16, Mastery over time, which refers to the ability to see either the past or future as if it were happening right now. Truthfully, don't we already do that? Most of us, much of the time, spend our time fantasizing over future 'realities' or re- hashing the past in an unending cycle in our minds. We are, indeed, complete masters of time travel right now, rather than masters of being present in the moment. Do you see what Patanjali has done? He has implied that with proper training, we can learn to do what we are unable not to do! This is a classical teaching by contradiction in the same spirit as a Zen koan. So what does mastery of time truly mean? And what would abandoning (the quest for) this power mean in this context? And what does it mean that this power is an impediment to enlightenment? The application of this concept to each of the "powers" is equally fruitful. Love & blessings, Sadhant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Sat Nam, > a)I could prove that Yoga is true and powerful to them that are against it and believe it a a false system.n this way,my loved ones will practise KY as well.The results would be egoless and pure,wouldn't they? Not up for us to determine this. Everyone has free will. > b)Generally,everything that God has given to us is to be utilised and developed ,isn't it?Every God-given gift is to be used and developed by using it with love and serving the mankined. > So,isn't there any specific kriya you could reccomend me? Yes. I already posted them. There are a couple others in my book Sexuality and Sprituality that you can purchase on www.yogatech.com. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur > Dionisios > > > > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" > - Yogi Bhajan > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at the Groups Member Center (My Groups), or send mail to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE! > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from > kundalini yogaclasses.html > > Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Sat Nam Dionisios, "a)I could prove that Yoga is true and powerful to them that are against it and believe it a a false system.n this way,my loved ones will practise KY as well.The results would be egoless and pure,wouldn't they?" "Not up for us to determine this. Everyone has free will." I'd like to add to Gururattan's 'on the money' reply. If this is something thats really weighing on your mind and you've got to resolve it, I really recommend reading 'Autobiography of a Yogi' - written by Yogananda. He has several chapters just on yogis that chose a certain power, I sense that he may have had an intuition that interest in powers would soon follow interest in yoga. He also writes about the subject of healing, his teacher and other master's were and are very adept at it. They didn't randomly and indescriminately heal people, though they could have. They realized that they would be interfering with free will, and karma by doing so. Blessings Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 I am impressed by Dionisiosis email. New! SBC Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited access Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Well, I was going to refrain replying to this particular topic but I suppose I should put my two cents in... I don't claim to know anything about anything, nor do I profess to have any supernatural powers of my own, just an observation: For starters, any process in which you "Gain" supernatural powers seems to have a few similarities, just like most underlying religions. It seems, that all throughout history there has been people with "Supernatural powers". Whether it be the Witchcraft of Wicca, or the Sorcery of Sorcerors. Often times they were myths, often times, who knows? Could have been real, could have been fake. The fact is there is a similar idea in most every religion, in the same way pretty much. Somehow it relates to believing in the divine, and offering prayers to them, but in reality(personally), I think it would come more from within and learning how to focus your own energy. I.E., a good example within Yoga would be figuring out how to use your Kudlani outside your body. Yes, that is an ignorant comment since I dont know all too much, it is merely an example. I think it would do most of you good who are searching for Supernatural Powers to study other forms of Metaphysics as well, as often they have concepts that are VERY similar to Yoga. Perhaps then you can find an underlying concept and make something that works for you. Also, from what I've read of buddhism and such it mentions that Supernatural powers are more of a barrier to enlightenment and such, and that they shouldn't be used to "Prove" anything. Nor should you strive to gain them. Just my two cents. All are nothing. For when everything is nothing and nothing is everything, truly the truth is spoken. Truth is a lie, false is real when truth is unseen while lies influence reality; always. Similar to the components of self. New! SBC Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited access Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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