chanting/mantra

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Sat nam!

 

In response to Heidi's post~

 

Chanting/mantra is just like meditation... it takes practice to train a

wandering mind and mantra can be a good tool for doing that.

 

I chanted for 3 hours with Krishna Das and a couple hundred yogis last

night! He said that the mind will wander away, that you can think about a

hundred other things, but if you just keep chanting, that gradually but

INEVITABLY, your mind will always come back to the chant. Inevitably, the

vibration will prevail. Inevitably, the chant will "win"!

 

Also it makes me think about the time one of my Kundalini teachers told me

if something is hard to do, it means we should be doing it. Boy did that

make me mad! ha ha ha just kidding...

 

And I would highly suggest learning the meanings of the

mantras/chants/whatever you are reciting

 

Which ones are you doing?

 

ek ong kar sat nam

you are the creative god

your identity is true

 

elle/ranjit

 

 

 

 

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Hello Heidi and All,

 

I was going to reply to Heidi's post a while ago, but I thought, "oh these

people know so much more than I do about mantras...." Well, since this actually

has been one of my questions from the beginning, since I started KY I mean,

maybe it would be good to see if other people feel as I do.

 

Personally, I love a few mantras; however, personally, if I want to "connect"

with God, that other place, I need to be still and quiet. I meditated simply on

the "ah" sound and the "om" sound when I first started, but even then, I'd get

to a place where I just needed to SHUT UP, as it were! ;-) And even early on I

got to a place where I'd experience an audible AUM sound that pulsated to a deep

blue pulsating eye. I experience a bliss that I don't want to interrupt with

movement or sound and sometimes apologize to God for needing to get on with the

day, it's that compelling. I'm sure most of you know what I mean.

 

The upshot is that while I love the mantras (got the Triple Mantra CD and play

it before I leave my house) for ME it's better to put them in a separate

category.

 

Love,

 

Hety

 

 

In response to Heidi's post~

 

Chanting/mantra is just like meditation... it takes practice to train a

wandering mind and mantra can be a good tool for doing that.

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes Hety,

 

That is also how I feel. I receive more benefit from the still mind than the

chanting. I don't mind the chanting and can feel the vibrations throughout

or in specific places. However, I get to a point where it is just background

noise. The chanting distracts my mind and, quite frankly, I'd rather drop

it. My mind generally brings its own sounds, sometimes music I've never

before heard. I miss all this when I am chanting. I also never experience

the presence of other beings or souls while chanting, only when stilled.

 

So, I'm confused as to the benefits of chanting. Am I off track, not quite

there yet, or in a different place all together?

 

I, too like the CDs to play during the day or for relaxation. But, not while

I am practicing. Again, I like the still mind. I seem to feel and experience

more from this.

 

Someone asked what chant I am currently using..."Har Haray Haree Wahe Guru."

And, I hope I'm not stoned for admitting this, but the "Sat Nam" chant is my

least, least favorite. It distracts me big time from the experiences and

even from tuning in. I would rather just breathe freely and fully without

the burden of thinking Sat Nam. Ouch, who threw that stone :-)

 

Thoughts and ideas please?

Thank you,

Heidi

 

 

hbrost <hbrost

Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga>

Friday, August 09, 2002 12:01 PM

Re: chanting/mantra

 

 

>Hello Heidi and All,

>

>I was going to reply to Heidi's post a while ago, but I thought, "oh these

people know so much more than I do about mantras...." Well, since this

actually has been one of my questions from the beginning, since I started KY

I mean, maybe it would be good to see if other people feel as I do.

>

>Personally, I love a few mantras; however, personally, if I want to

"connect" with God, that other place, I need to be still and quiet. I

meditated simply on the "ah" sound and the "om" sound when I first started,

but even then, I'd get to a place where I just needed to SHUT UP, as it

were! ;-) And even early on I got to a place where I'd experience an

audible AUM sound that pulsated to a deep blue pulsating eye. I experience

a bliss that I don't want to interrupt with movement or sound and sometimes

apologize to God for needing to get on with the day, it's that compelling.

I'm sure most of you know what I mean.

>

>The upshot is that while I love the mantras (got the Triple Mantra CD and

play it before I leave my house) for ME it's better to put them in a

separate category.

>

>Love,

>

>Hety

>

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>In response to Heidi's post~

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>Chanting/mantra is just like meditation... it takes practice to train a

>wandering mind and mantra can be a good tool for doing that.

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Dear Heidi and All,

 

Interestingly, this morning I was reading from Patanjali's "How to Know God, The

Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali." Here's an answer, at least for me, to your

question Heidi, and perhaps others who experience the same. It begins with

Sutra 27 in Part 1, "The Word which expresses Him is OM." Swami Prabhavananda

and Christopher Isherwood explain in detail about the benefits of chanting or

meditating on the OM (or AUM) and how it affects daily life. They use many

excellent examples.

 

Since I love to walk in the morning, my yoga instructor taught me the Breath

Walk, developed by Yogi Bhajan and Gururattan(?) using the Sa Ta Na Ma/Wahe Guru

mantra. Interestingly enough, when you relax and walk in a regular fashion

after chanting the mantra, the mantra continues to "echo" through your mind. I

can't help hearing it, at least. And this is a good thing based upon what

Patanjali says. Also, with the Triple Mantra I find myself going through it

without thinking while involved in my daily routine and many times just resonate

the om sound silently. I believe this is the aim -- to infuse daily thinking

with the sounds of God.

 

As I continue with my yogic journey I may come to different conclusions, but for

now I enjoy silence while meditating and at other times specifically resonating

the sounds of God.

 

Love,

 

Hety

 

 

So, I'm confused as to the benefits of chanting. Am I off track, not quite

there yet, or in a different place all together?

 

I, too like the CDs to play during the day or for relaxation. But, not while

I am practicing. Again, I like the still mind. I seem to feel and experience

more from this.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Heidi and Hety-

I agree with you both as well. For me, the chanting is a way to quiet

my mind. Instead of being bombarded by a bunch of thoughts, I chant

and try to put myself into it. This allows me to focus my mind and

get it 'centered'.

 

However, as you both have said, I'm beginning to get to points where,

sometimes I just want to stop. I can feel that I'm reaching a point

where the chanting is becoming intrusive, not cohesive. But I'm not

quite as far along in my practice as the two of you, so I'm still

working on that stage.

 

Hety, you mentioned another k-list on a previous post. Could you

please email the link/name of it to me offline? I'm always looking

for new 'input'!

 

My email is spatialagent1.

 

Thanks!

 

Christa

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Dear Hety,

 

taught me the Breath Walk, developed by Yogi Bhajan and Gururattan(?) using

the Sa Ta Na Ma/Wahe Guru

 

Actually by Gurucharan not myself. But I did do this walk and chant way

before the book was written. Gets me out of my mind.

 

I believe this is the aim -- to infuse daily thinking with the sounds of

God.

 

You got it. That is the goal.

 

now I enjoy silence while meditating and at other times specifically

resonating the sounds of God.

 

There are different sounds that are satisfying at different times.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

[Guest guest]

Dear Heidi,

 

The goal of chanting is to get to the point where we hear the sound of

silence and feel the space of stillness all the time. (or however the sound

and presence of God comes to you automatically.)

 

At one point during my transition to silence I had to drop all chanting and

just listen. It is so satisfying.

 

I still do chanting meditations, but I certainly can't miss my silent

meditation without feeling deprived.

 

I'm confused as to the benefits of chanting. Am I off track, not quite>

there yet, or in a different place all together?

 

You are where you are. Be where you are. It always changes anyway.

 

I like to use the mantras as garbage collectors and maids to clear my space.

Then it is easier to be in the silence.

 

> Someone asked what chant I am currently using..."Har Haray Haree Wahe

Guru."

 

Me too.

 

Ouch, who threw that stone :-)

 

Must have been yourself. :+)

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur