Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Dear Christa, Regarding feeling the ida and pingala, these are energy channels that start at a point between the eyebrows, then up over each side of the top of the head, then each side of the vertebra in the neck, then each side of the rest of the spine, down to the base of the spine. Using certain pranayamas, you can feel these channels fill up with prana like an electric current. When the mind becomes very still, the senses automatically withdraw and you can see in your minds eye in the field of consciousness of 3 dimentional space the nidis throughout the body filling with prana, as your awareness deepens into brightness. then you will see the energy withdrawing into the ida and pingala then to the base of the spine and upwards. Your mind will be utterly still, pure - satvic and filled with the longing for God and abiding in His Name which is our True Identity (SAT NAM). To begin to feel and become aware of these nadis, you might want to do the following channnel cleansing KY kriyas. These are just 3, but there are many others that will do the same thing. Here in BKK we start all the classes with various excersizes using long deep breathing (LDB) and breath of fire (BF), just so that the entire nervous system and circulatory system are purified to carry easily the greatest possible charge. Then ewe begin to include these several channel cleansing kriyas. So after some LDB maybe 10 to 20 breaths completely expandintelungs from the bottom through the middle and upper part, then contracting all the air out, you may want to try these pranayama kriyas: 1. Sit with the legs crossed, spine straight. Extend the left arm upwards, straight and reaching, so you feel a pressure in the armpit, with the left arm close to the ear, palm facing inwards. With the right hand flat with the fingers together facingstraight upwards like an antena, place the right thumb against the right nostril and begin a very powerful LDB through the left nostril, at least 15 to 25 breaths, with each inhalation focusing on the extending and reaching of the left arm upwards. Then inhale deeply, hold the breath, pull the root lock, reach the left arm up and hold 30 seconds, exhale, inhale, exhale, inhale hold again 30 seconds with the root lock pulled, chest expanded forwards, chin in slightly, eyes rolled towards the top of the head. Then keeping the left arm up slowly exhale, remain still for another 10 seconds, then slowy lower the arms and hands back to the knees, as you relax the breath. Then sitting, you may feel the energy all along the ida / moon channel, as described above, like an electric current. After around a minute (maybe longer) to let the energy become fully absorbed and assimilated into the ida nadi, begin the same pranayama with the right are extended up and the thumb of the left hand covering the left nostril to breath through the right nostril, same as with the left. Then you will also feel the radiance within the pingala / sun nadi. 2. In this next pranayama kriya, you sit on the left heel, so that the heel is between the buttox pressing against the anal sphinctors to block the downward flow of energy. Then you place the palm of your right arm on the floor just behind the side of the body with the elbow pressed against the ribs. Then extend the left arm up reaching, as in the first pranayama, press the chest forwards, again begin a powerful LDB, as with the first pranayama. After 15 to 25 powerful and complete breaths, inhale and hold the breath, pull the root lock, reach the left arm up and hold 30 seconds, exhale, inhale, exhale, inhale hold again 30 seconds with the root lock pulled, chest expanded forwards, chin in slightly, eyes rolled towards the top of the head. Then keeping the left arm up slowly exhale, remain still for another 10 seconds, then slowy lower the arms and hands back to the knees, as you relax the breath. Then sitting cross legged, you may feel the energy all along the ida / moon channel, as described above, like an electric current. After around a minute (maybe longer) to let the energy become fully absorbed and assimilated into the ida nadi, begin the same pranayama sittingon the right heel leaning back against the left arm (palm o the grount), with the right arm extended up, and repeat the breathing and holding of the breath as with the left side. Then you will also feel the radiance within the pingala / sun nadi. Breath of fire - preliminary excersize: Apart from stretching the legs to gather circulation, we usually practice BF before the final pranayama kriya for the ida and pingala. As you know, BF is not the same as kapalabati, where one rythmically and forcefully pulls the root lock and contracs the navel and lower diaphragm inwards expelling all the air, then relaxing the ribs to let airflow in without inhaling. Nor is BF a kind of bellows breath of the abdomen extending inward and outward ad one expands the lower diaphragm. And it is definitely not the same as bastrika, where one has an even rythmical shallow and very fast breathing, as taught by many hatha yogis. Breath of fire uses the full extention of the diaphragm, from the top part of the chest, through the middle and down to the bottom, like a full length bellows, where the whole diaphragn expands maybe to 50 or 70% of the lung capacity and contractst maybe 10% of lung capacity (assuming 20% capacit beinhe lungs at rest). This is to say that you will feel the suspension of air from below the navel in the Kandal, through the solar plexus and up through the heart area, but without the full expansion of the upper part of the rib cage and raising of the shoulders, as with a long deep breath. (Shati Parwa's book explains this aspect of how the breath also fills into the chest and heart area clearly as well.) As a BF excersize, i.e., to get into it and feel it, in class we sit cross legged, spine straight with the left palm facing inwards around 4 inches from the abdomen just below the navel (the Kandal area) and the right palm similarly just above the navel (Solar Plexus area). Then sniffing some air in, you expand your hands forwards as though pulling the air in throguh the full length of the lungs without a full inhalation, but just to the point of feeling the sispension of the air throughout the full length of the diaphragm. Pause for a moment, just to feel that suspension from the Kandal through the Solar Plexus and through the heart area. Then contract/sniff the air out, pulling the hands back in wowards the Kandal and Solar Plexus. Continue this slow rythmical sniffing of the are in and out with a slight pause to fee the inward and outward suspension of air. Gradually, increase the rythum and speed and power of the breath without makint shallow, as with bastrica, with the hands expanding twards and back. You might visualize the idea of the iron bars that link the wheels of an old time locomotive, as your hands reach out and pull back with each expansion and contraction of the diaphragm ad lungs, as though you are buildingp power and steam, and transformin it energy. Finally you will be at a maximum full length power and rythm of the breath of fire. Continue for some time, 3 to 5 minutes, then put your hands on your knees, inhale very deeply and fully. Press the shoulders back, bring the chin in slightly, pull the root lock, press the soine and chest forwards, rol the eyes to the top of the head and hold the breath for 30 seconds, then exhale, inhale, exhale, inhale hold again 30 seconds with the root lock pulled, chest expanded forwards, chin in slightly, eyes rolled towards the top of the head. Then exhale, relax the breath and feel the electromagnetic current running from the Kandal (located between the 4th vertebra and navel)through the spine and through the top of the head. Just sit for a while and let the radiance become fully absorbed and assimilated into the cells of the body and spine and brain, allowing them to build up a charge. 3. Now you're ready for the last pranayama kriya for the channel ceansing of the ida and pingala. Sittingwh the spine straight, bring the left knee to the chest with foot flat on the ground, heel against the buttox. Then you place the palm of your right arm on the floor just behind the side of the body with the elbow pressed against the ribs. Then extend the left arm up reaching, as in the first pranayama, press the chest forwards, begin a very powerful BF for 1 to 3 minutes or longer. Then inhale powerfully, deeply and completely and hold the breath, pull the root lock, reach the left arm up, arching the spine, pressing the chest forwards, and hold the breath for 30 seconds; exhale forcefully, inhale, exhale, inhale hold again 30 seconds with the root lock pulled, chest expanded forwards, chin in slightly, eyes rolled towards the top of the head. Then keeping the left arm up slowly exhale, remain still for another 10 seconds, then slowy lower the arms and hands back to the knees, as you relax the breath. Then sitting cross legged, you may feel the energy all along the ida / moon channel, as described above, like an electric current. After around a minute (maybe longer) to let the energy become fully absorbed and assimilated into the ida nadi, begin the same pranayama, bringing the right knee to the chest, right foot flat on the ground, heel close to the buttox, leaning back against the left arm (palm on the ground), with the right arm extended up, same as with the left and repeat the breathing and holding of the breath as with the left side. Then you will also feel the radiance within the pingala / sun nadi. This completes the ida/pingala pranayama set we typically do before our classes, sometimes with some additional kriyas that open and charge these energy channels as well, but with different pressures from different positions. If you do tese 3 pranayama kriyas for the ida and pingala with the LBad BF preparations before each one, and then you do alternate nostril breathing of 10 cycles or more on a regular basis, where you inhale through the left nostril to the count of 4 watching the flow of prana along the ida nadi, then hold 16, wathching the prana at the sacral plexis and base of the spine, then exhale to the count of 8, while watching the flow of prana along the pingala up to the agna chakra between, behind, slightly above the point between the eyebrows, holding for 16 counts, then inhaling 4 along the pungala, hold 16 at the sacral and exhaling 8 along the ida - constituting one complete cycle, then you will feel the whole body becoming light, loosing all its inertia, the mind becoming clear, still and expansive. Now you are ready to start a Kundalini Yoga class with Laya meditations and gain some real benefits from it. Placing the palms together w/ thumbs against the sternum you can begin a second round of Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo, one breath for each sound, 3 times or more, then inhale deeply hold the breath pullingtheroot lock for 30 seconds or longer, then relaxingte breath, the body will be held in an electromagnetic inward turning space of soundlessness. Then the KY class can begin. Try this and see what happens. There will be an electromagnetic pulling from within the core of your being. Tas sense of a "yokin will emerge where the mind becomes still and turns inward as though there was a vortex sucking in everything, and you will "hear" the Truth resounding soundlessly from within and abide as single all-pervasive being. Pieter -- Message: 11 Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:59:50 -0000 "spatialagent1" <spatialagent1 Ida and Pingala Nadis? Sat Nam everyone! Well I have a question and a meditation progress update. As I mentioned the other week, I'm extending my 40 day med of the Ganputi Mantra to 90 days (or at least making a sincere attempt to do so). I had an interesting sensation occur last night that hadn't happended before. Half way through the med (I'm doing it for 20 minutes) I began to feel the vibrations resonating within my body, which has happened before. But when that started, I also began to feel what I will describe as two 'electrical' streams down either side of the back of my head and into my neck. I couldn't feel anything lower than my neck though. So maybe this isn't them. If it's not them does anyone know what that was? I know that ida and pingala run along the left and right sides of the spine, and I believe up the back of the head as well. ANd everyone has spoken about them many times, but I had never 'felt' them before. But I felt completely 'energized', like I had electricity running everywhere in my body. I know it sounds somewhat contradictory, but the weird thing was that with all of this energy, I felt completely peaceful and calm. It felt wonderful! After the 20 minutes, I stopped chanting and just sat there and 'soaked' it all in. I didn't want to move. But after about 5 minutes, my daughter needed me to tuck her into bed, so I ended the meditation. But I felt great the rest of the night, very calm and content. Christa -- WEB SITE: kundalini yoga KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from kundalini yogaclasses.html Sponsored by YOGA TECHNOLOGY - Practical Books & Videos on Kundalini Yoga & Meditation. Also Meditation & Mantra CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Sat Nam Pieter! I haven't seen you post recently. I must tell you though. I LOVE your posts. You may not post that often, but when you do, I need to print them out and read them several times because there's so much to be gained from them. I'm familiar with some of the breathing kriyas you mentioned. I just started doing the first breathing kriya you describe below this week. You had posted that one in the last "Breath Series" post. I think doing that one was what made me sensitive to the ida/pingala nadis during my meditation. I will make a confession though. And this is probably out of ignorance as a novice. I've been a bit hesitant on doing alternate nostril breathing or really heavy pranayama. From what I've read/understood, that can 'jump start' kundalini. And while I would like for that to happen, I don't want to 'force it'. The past 6 months I've been focusing on trying to get my physical and emotional self in shape through yoga, sort of preparing for the day. I'm probably being overly cautious. But I didn't want to start something that I wasn't ready for. Does that make sense? The peacefulness that I experienced the other night, though, could be quite addictive. So now I'm reading more about how to do some pranayama so that I can delve further into myself. The results you describe is one of the things I've been striving towards. Thank you so much for your support and encouragement. Christa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Hello all, 'you will feel the whole body becoming light, loosing all its inertia, the mind becoming clear, still and expansive.' I just tried these pranayamas that Pieter posted last thrusday. Wow ! I felt a strong buzzing behind the top of my nose and as he said I felt my whole body beoming light. I did mess up the alterante nostril breathing as I had never done the second holding of the breath for 16 counts and sometimes lost my place, but tomorrow is another day. In fact I can't wait to try this during the ambroisial hours - I did it in the evening. It has given me an beautiful sense of peace and detachment. Thank you Pieter . Love and Blessings, Avtar ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Sat Nam Avtar! I too notice the effects of doing this. I had problems as well with the counts, but mine is my inabality to comfortably hold 16 in and 16 out. I found myself struggling with that. So I reduced it to 2 inhales, hold for 8, 4 exhales and hold for 8. That is more manageable for me right now. I will work on building it up though. Christa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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