Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Dear Friends, Regarding my original post asking if anyone had any guidelines or experience as to how I should orient students in my classes who I know take drugs... Please understand that my sincere wish is simply to be clearly informed and thus informative on the subject, and certainly not to cause any controversy nor exercise any judgement. To clarify the situation further. Several of the students who I know use.. but do not abuse drugs.. are also friends. So I obviously can approach them with advise... which may not have been easy if I did not know them. I would really appreciate any guidance on this subject, so perhaps if you feel it more appropriate, could the experienced teachers on the list mail me off-list. Obviously a long term ideal goal would be that my friends do not take any type of substance at all. But in the short term is there any practical advice I can give them as to their practice of KY. Many thanks, Sat Nam Krishan-Shiva Kaur ___________ SikhNet - http://www.SikhNet.com ___________ Get news on Sikhism and the Sikhnet web site Sign up at http://www.SikhNet.com/ ___________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Dear Krishan Shiva Kaur, > Regarding my original post asking if anyone had any guidelines or experience as to how I should orient students in my classes who I know take drugs... > > Please understand that my sincere wish is simply to be clearly informed and thus informative on the subject, and certainly not to cause any controversy nor exercise any judgement. A couple of years ago at Solstice Yogi Bhajan gave a very short sharing about drugs. He said if you take marajuana it will skrew up your brain so that when you leave the planet you will miss your mark. You will want to go straight to God, but you will be unable to make it because you will be off course. The whole 1000 people went into a total hush. You could have heard a pin drop. (Must have been some users in the crowd.) Then he went on with another topic. He made his point. Mayve this is all the information we need to make our choices this lifetime so that our efforts will take us where we want to go. You may wish to share this story and then let everyone make up their own minds, which they will anyways, but with more information. SAt Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Okay, maybe I get booted off for saying this but here goes. Doing kundalini yoga while there are recreational drugs circulating in the bloodstream is DANGEROUS PERIOD. People who want to use cannabis, hallucinogenics, cocaine, ecstacy, or whatever while they are practising yoga should choose some other type of yoga. These drugs either inhibit and/or use up spinal fluid, or increase nerve synapse, and are completely contraindicated. What people do in their recreational moments is nobody's business and I am the first person to support a persons right to do whatever they please in this respect. However, that doesn't change the fact that the practice of kundalini yoga together with the aforementioned drugs is like mixing one drug with another and not knowing what you are doing. If you are a recreational drug user and you want to avoid messing up your nervous system, or worse, seperate the two activities. Seva Simran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 I think what you are saying is entirely appropriate, and merely repeats what Yogi Bhajan has said about the use of drugs with KY. And after all, as teachers, it is his teachings we are communicating. Having said that, we teach, not preach. Give the information, but ultimately the student must come to his own choice. Peace, Love and Light, Sukhmani - mark terrell Kundaliniyoga Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:34 PM Re: Drug use and KY Okay, maybe I get booted off for saying this but here goes. Doing kundalini yoga while there are recreational drugs circulating in the bloodstream is DANGEROUS PERIOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 If you are clear about that why did you ask for feedback? Lots of people I know take drugs too. That is their business, not mine. But when it comes to what is safe and what is not, it has nothing to do with Yogi Bhajan's teaching, it has to do what is safe and what is not safe and that needs to be very clearly communicated to students of kundalini yoga. We owe that to students. It is not about judgement or preaching, it is about protection and responsibility. Of course it is their decision, but with so many opinions being so freely available, I feel it is important to be committed and to communicate that strongly enough that people will not just file it, they will feel something, and they will respond by examining their motivations and the consciousness surrounding their decisions, including whether or not they want to do kundalini yoga. Seva Simran Sukhmani Kaur wrote: > I think what you are saying is entirely appropriate, and merely repeats what Yogi Bhajan has said about the use of drugs with KY. And after all, as teachers, it is his teachings we are communicating. > Having said that, we teach, not preach. Give the information, but ultimately the student must come to his own choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 > > Sukhmani Kaur wrote: > > > I think what you are saying is entirely appropriate, and merely > repeats what Yogi Bhajan has said about the use of drugs with KY. Does anyone have any information about using medication with KY? My first yoga teacher got very unpleasant with me (I won't go into it here and now) and called me a junkie. that was because I was taking anti depression treatment at the time. He said he refuses to have anything to do with me as long as I am on drugs. I'm not on 'drugs' now, and I'm not in contact with him. The doctor that had prescribed the drugs is a MD, with a vast interst in other ways of thinking, and he said doing the yoga and meditation will be find. This teacher did not teach KY, but some special idea of his own. He was my first meeting with yoga and meditation, I understood very little. He did say he takes ideas from kundalini yoga, tantric yoga, bahkti yoga, and a few others. So I started reading. shoshana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Dear Shoshana, > Does anyone have any information about using medication with KY? We do not advise on medication because we are not doctors. Some people find that they need less medication with the practice of KY but that depends on what you are taking. You need to work with yourself, your body and your doctor to determine what you need. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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