Going vegetarian

[Guest guest]

Congratulations on your new consciousness Heidi.It is a very graceful way to

live and enjoy God's planet.When I first became veggie.. my family thought I

would die from malnutrition so I had to prove them wrong..The first key was

to get the simplest vegetarian cookbooks, nothing fancy and overwhelming and

work with a few dishes you really like.Baking tofu is fun and easy if you are

not alllergic to soy.Sandwiches go a long way and extra supply from the

health food store in the begining will give you support. Once you are settled

in you can make so much and it will cost less.My favorite cookbook is the

Enchanted Broccoli forest by Mollie katzen and Siri Ved Kaur;s From Veggie's

with Love. You should be able get Siri Ved's Kaur on the kundalini web site.

What I do a lot is mimic the food at the Health food deli that I like.As a

vegetarian I am careful and I do get my blood done at least once a year

especially if I feel weak ect.It has never been a problem so far...I still

crave barbeque chicken after all these years!!! but my consciouness is

different,My soul is different and even my body. Your sense of smell and

taste will change and your journey will also.Good luck with it and have fun

with it

s.i.r.khalsa

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sat nam,

 

I am trying to go vegetarian. I've completed my first week. I'm hungry and

have a headache.

 

I've been eating less and less meat since practicing kundalini yoga. It just

sort of evolved. But, now I'd like to make a personal stand for the animals.

They die such terrorizing deaths these days. I'm finding that as my energies

awaken, I'm getting closer and closer to all animals.

 

Please forward your best vegetarian resource/reading suggestions. I need

help with this as it is very new to me. I am in excellent health, as far as

I know, and don't want to upset the apple cart, so to speak. Hmmm, apple

cart, must have an apple now! Maybe with some peanut butter and.....

 

Seriously, thank you in advance,

Heidi

 

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[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

I used to have the same problem. I think flavour food can be help. Yes peanut,

something like that. those food make me feel I DO had a good meal. I was

satisfied. After a time I feel meat smells not good. I refuse to had them . but

maybe it is easier for me to become a vegetarian, because I eat not many meat

even when I was a child.

many blessings

JessicaI am trying to go vegetarian. I've completed my first week. I'm hungry

and

have a headache.

Heidi

 

 

 

Blessings

 

Yoga Friend

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

>I still crave barbeque chicken after all these years!!! but my

consciouness is

> different,My soul is different and even my body. Your sense of

smell and

> taste will change and your journey will also.Good luck with it and

have fun

> with it

> s.i.r.khalsa

 

SIR - you raised a very interesting point here that I've been

mentally wobbling on lately. First off, I also went veggie after

beginning ky. I hadn't thought of getting my blood checked, why do

you? I'm assuming possible anemia??

 

But your point about craving meat but not eating it is what I wanted

to ask about. In order to truly 'live' this lifestyle, shouldn't we

not crave meat? On the one hand, to not crave meat at all means a

vegetarian diet isn't a type of sacrifice as some see it (like my

family as well). But does the fact that you still crave it, although

opt not to eat it, detract from the intent? Meaning, how much do our

thoughts affect the result that we want. Are they equally as

important as the act itself?

 

I'm kinda rambling here. But I have similar thoughts. Once in awhile,

I'll smell baked ham and my mouth waters, but I don't want to eat it.

The desire isn't the meat, rather the honey or cloves or whatever

spices you put into it. And then I took my kids to chuck e cheese

last week (affectionately called the 'big rat' by my husband and I)

and I got their salad bar. Their pasta salad had what I think was

chicken, but only a couple of pieces, mixed in it that I didn't see

when I got it. As soon as it hit my mouth.....gag reflex. That was

the first time in months that I put meat into my mouth. I couldn't

believe my reaction. And I couldn't eat anything else after that. So

I guess my body is changing in accordance with my decisions after all.

 

Christa

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Heidi,

 

I would like to recommend you a great book: TRANSITION TO VEGETARIANISM by

Rudolph Ballentine, M.D. This book helped me a lot in my own transition. You can

get it from the Himalayan Institute Press.

[Guest guest]

Ahh, Christa,

 

Same thing with me when I went veggie after starting

KY, it was just a natural occurence....yesterday

I thought of a hot dog, white bread, a little yellow

mustard, and desired it, but knew I could not

physically eat it without gagging..it is just sort of

a memory of desire...now take it a

step further, now I eat 95% raw foods, and the thought

of eating something cooked repulses me, like Iam

eating something dead....interesting how the body/mind

adapts to good or bad habits.

L

 

Christa wrote:

 

I have similar thoughts. Once in awhile,

I'll smell baked ham and my mouth waters, but I

don't want to eat it. The desire isn't the meat,

rather the honey or cloves or whatever spices you put

into it. And then I took my kids tochuck e cheese

last week.. I got their salad bar. Their pasta salad

had what I think was chicken, but only a couple of

pieces, mixed in it that I didn't see when I got it.

As soon as it hit my mouth.....gag reflex. That was>

the first time in months that I put meat into my>

mouth. I couldn't believe my reaction. And I couldn't

eat anything else after that. So I guess my body is

changing in accordance with my decisions after all.

 

Christa

 

>

 

 

 

 

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Some things I recommend/noticed...

 

1. I began to drink a lot more water when I became vegetarian

2. When I crave meat it's more of what my body associates with the nutrients

from meat, if that makes any sense. So now when I crave meat I think about

what it is that I'm really craving. I realized that I am either craving fat

so I eat more nuts (craving fat) or iron so I eat more leafy greens and then

feel satisfied.

3. I don't know if you are lacto-ovo or vegan, but be careful not to switch

from meat to too much dairy/eggs or too much nuts--they still have a lot of

fat. I made that mistake early on.

4. I try to stay away from overly processed flours as

well--wheat/multigrain flours rather than white processed. When I moved to

multigrain bread and pastas I was still able to feel full (carbs are what

generally make me feel full) but not that lethargic full after eating a bowl

of macaroni.

5. I also agree about getting a few good vegie cookbooks. A few good early

transition books for me was The Complete Vegetarian Cuisine (Rose Stewart)

and also The Accidental Vegan.

6. Someone mentioned craving hot dogs. There are some decent soydogs on the

market that I eat when I feel the urge.

7. If you are located in an area with a Trader Joes...I recommend going to

that store. They have better prices on a bunch of staples than buying at an

organic/vegetarian specialty grocery shop.

8. I also go for blood tests to check my iron especially. I was vegetarian

in college (without understanding what I needed to do/not do) and became

anemic. You should also take a B12 (I believe it is) suppliment and

introduce either flax seed oil, or ground flax seeds into your diet for

omega 3s. Definately check with a good/reputable health food/vitamin store

or homeopathic doctor about suppliments.

9. If you are eating cheese....check to see if it contains rennet, which is

a culture that is sometimes used and is derived from animals. I love Trader

Joe's because they have a handout telling which of their cheeses contains

rennet from animal, rennet from vegetable, and no rennet at all.

 

Also watch gelatin. Of all things, I had been taking vitamin suppliments

that were in gelatin capsules--and those are used quite frequently by

pharmaceutical companies for antibiotics amongst other medications. So if

you go on any medications have your doctor check the Physicians' Desk

Reference--many of these medications come in a liquid suspension. Altoids

contain gelatin. It pops up in some random places....

 

Well this became much longer than I had intended! I hope this helps...and

good luck!

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi,

I would also like to find out about becoming a vegan although now I do

still eat fish, my puppy eats meat.

What is a good vegetarian balanced diet?

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Drink water, drink water, drink water! Alot of people get headaches when

they detoxify, and yes, going veggie is a huge detoxifier. That's very

common for cleansing & fasting as well.

 

Add some fresh lemon juice into your water too.

 

Here is a web site I have found to be a helpful reference, the Vegetarian

Society of the UK: http://www.vegsoc.org/

 

A great book to read is "Diet for a New America" -- it is an amazing account

of the atrocities of modern animal farming & food production, and a great

resource for vegetarian nutrition. Be warned though, the first section is

totally harsh, hiding nothing as it exposes cruelty to animals which are

butchered for our consumption. This book changed my life -- it was my first

assignment at my Hatha Yoga teacher training course a few years back.

 

Peace to you,

ranjit kaur

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I'd just like to add one thing to the discussion about eating meat and

craving it. I was a very strict vegetarian about fifteen years ago. I

became pregnant, and started to crave meat. I thought of the craving as

a tempation and ignored it. It turned out that the craving was a very

serious cry form my body - I was dangerously anemic. As I certainly

didn't want a blood transfusion I chose to eat the meat - the first few

days it made me ill but I persisted. Two week later my blood count was

back to almost normal. In this instance I felt eating the meat was

taking medicine that my baby and my body really needed.

 

What was interesting to me about this particular craving was that I had

not craved meat for years - it had come out of nowhere. The whole

experience taught me to listen to what my body is telling me. In my

family there seems to be a genetic perdisposition to anemia - my mother

had it and I first had it at age seven. When I'm having a problem I

don't seem to absorb iron well fom non meat sources. Supplements just

didn't work. During a previous pregnacy I became anemic, and my doctor

didn't believe that I was taking my supplements , but I was. That time I

had a iron transfusion. Another time I had a series of iron injections.

 

So there are many angles to every question. I think a good dose of

commonsense is vital - if someone is trying to be a vegetarian and has

persistant problems they should be investigated. And for what it's worth

I'll throw in one last thing from a great Sufi teacher Bhai Sahib who was

himself a vegetarian - he said that ANYTHING, even vegetarianism , can

become an obstacle if one becomes too attached to it.

 

Love to all,

Avtar

 

 

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