question for Victor - re vegetarians

[Guest guest]

Victor,

Your response re your healthy life style was very inspiring. I have a

friend who also eats only raw food. She says she feels wonderful. But

she doesn't eat organic. I told her I would think it is very

important to eat organic, especially if you are only eating fruits

and veggies. [she is in Houston where it is easy to obtain organic,

altho they are more expensive.]

What is your opinion? and do you eat organic?

 

Kartar Kaur

[Guest guest]

> What is your opinion? and do you eat organic?

 

Recent research has conclusive evidence that

organically grown fruits and vegetables have nearly 5

times more nutrients than the ones grown

conventionally. And, they certainly

smell and taste better.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I eat organic for two reasons. One it is healthier because of the certification

of no chemical fertilizers,pesticides,herbacides and a myriad of other poisons

they use in "conventional" farming. Two it's more nutritious and really tastes

better! Go organic! AMEN! Victor

[Guest guest]

I once worked with a manager who said he didn't like fresh apples. Apple

pie,juice and sauce but not fresh. "What planet are you from ?!" I blasted. I

then asked him if he had ever tried organic apples and of coarse he had not. The

next day on my way to work I picked up a 3# bag of organic Fuji apples and

presented them to him. Did he like them? Before the day was over he had finished

of the entire bag! You see conventional apples are not tree-ripened but picked

many days if not weeks prematurely,chemically ripened with a gas,and waxed with

some petroleum based poison. No wonder he didn't like fresh apples! Organic

fruits and veggies rule! Victor

[Guest guest]

Can you tell me where to find this "recent research"? I'm very interested in

reading it as I am trying to improve my bird's diet...and my own! Thanks.

- Neath

Gayathri Narayanan <gaia3_71 wrote: Recent research has conclusive

evidence that

organically grown fruits and vegetables have nearly 5

times more nutrients than the ones grown

conventionally. And, they certainly

smell and taste better.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

At 09:38 AM 9/12/02 +0100, S K wrote:

 

>Can you tell me where to find this "recent research"? I'm very interested

>in reading it as I am trying to improve my bird's diet...and my own! Thanks.

> - Neath

> Gayathri Narayanan <gaia3_71 wrote: Recent research has

> conclusive evidence that

>organically grown fruits and vegetables have nearly 5

>times more nutrients than the ones grown

>conventionally. And, they certainly

>smell and taste better.

>

 

 

Here are some links for you, although I don't know why we need research to

tell us that eating food sprayed with substances that are specifically made

to kill lots of other things is bad for us!

 

http://www.newhope.com/nutritionsciencenews/NSN_backs/Sep_01/news.cfm

 

http://www.edenfoods.com/info/09192001.html

 

There are of course studies showing "inconclusive evidence" or that there

is "no difference" between conventional or organic foods

 

http://www.pmac.net/roadmap_nutrition.html

 

but once again, ingesting poisonous substances.....it's just commonsense......

 

 

however, since I've already jumped in on this whole vegetarian topic. I was

vegetarian for many years, and vegan for awhile too, so I have definitely

heard (and used) all the arguments for why veganism is the only choice that

makes sense logically, nutritionally, compassionately, etc. However, I have

been struggling with lots of health issues and I have found that eating

some amount of flesh foods seems neessary for my personal metabolism, at

least at this point in my life right now.

 

I think the problem is not so much what we eat, as the relationship to what

we eat, and the life that what we are eating has lived. Ideally I would

like to hunt all my own meat myself, ethically, and give thanks to the

Creator for providing me with nourishment during the kill. (and this from

someone that abhors hunting) However, since that is not currently a

possibility, I make sure to buy only animal products from small

family-owned farms that feed their animals organic food and let them roam free.

 

Something has to die, everytime we eat. And in the view of a deep

ecologist, just because you are killing 10 carrots instead of a tuna, there

is still death on the plate - this is a basic tenet of life - that

life/death are so intimately connected. So while I am certainly in support

of vegetarianism and veganism, and definitely in support on animal rights,

I don't think that you necessarily have to be vegan before you can consider

yourself a conscious non-violent eater. And I think the intentions that are

pout into cooking the food and then eating the food are just as important

as to what the food is.

 

I would also point out that it is very easy to be an unhealthy vegetarian

eater (the taco bell and potato chip diet for example!) and many vegetarian

fast foods (soy burgers, soups, vegan 'ice cream' etc) are heavily

processed and full of refined sugars. I am currently trying to follow a

completely whole foods, sugar free diet myself which has been hard, and not

had the health benefits I would have liked yet - although I do have lots

more energy.

 

There is a beautiful poem by Rumi that I can't seem to find right now that

says something to the effect of (and I apologize for destroying the

beautiful lyricalness of this poem, but....)

 

would that we could eat without killing

and live off the sun and the air

but since we cannot let every meal be an act of worship and love!

 

Light on your way,

Eric