LDB and BF

[Guest guest]

Have not been able to practice KY for quite a while while helping my mother (90)

recouperate from her broken hip surgery. - - -

Now that I have a little more time my problem is the same as before.

When doing BF my left shouderblade starts to ache and by the time 2 minutes are

up my left arm is aching so severely all the way down to my finger tips that I

have to stop. Have tried using different postures but the results are the same.

 

When doing LDB the pain in the back of my neck becomes most distracting more

often than not leading to a headache relieved only by aspirin.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? - - Your help is most appreciated.

 

Ruth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Ruth,

 

> When doing BF my left shouderblade starts to ache and by the time 2

minutes are up my left arm is aching so severely all the way down to my

finger tips that I have to stop. Have tried using different postures but

the results are the same.

>

> When doing LDB the pain in the back of my neck becomes most distracting

more often than not leading to a headache relieved only by aspirin.

 

Just be with your breath and let it breathe. Do not try to make anything

happen. Relax. With eyes closed look at an imaginary horizon and be with

how the breath feels.

 

Also you may be breathing in your upper body and not from the abdomin or

including the lower part of your body - breathing mechanism.

 

SAt Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

[Guest guest]

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Gururattan K.Khalsa

Kundaliniyoga

Friday, October 11, 2002 11:31 AM

Re: LDB and BF

 

 

Dear Ruth,

 

Dear Gururattan,

 

thank you, thank you, thank you, what a difference it has made to consciouly

relax and be with my breath when I begin to ache. Was able to do 20 min easy.

Hope I'm doing it right.

 

Do have a question on the LDB - is it a slow and long deep breath or more

rythmically long and deep.

 

Ruth

 

> When doing BF my left shouderblade starts to ache...

 

 

Just be with your breath and let it breathe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY"

- Yogi Bhajan

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Ruth,

 

> thank you, thank you, thank you, what a difference it has made to

consciouly relax and be with my breath when I begin to ache. Was able to do

20 min easy. Hope I'm doing it right.

 

Glad you are having success. You can even start out with relaxing with your

breath as it breathes and then when you are comfortable go into LDB and BF.

 

 

> Do have a question on the LDB - is it a slow and long deep breath or

more rythmically long and deep.

 

 

Try both and see what you are most comfortable with. There is not supposed

to be efforting. Actually you will feel a rhythm in slow and long and deep.

Then you won't get stressed if the rhythm is natural and relaxed.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

[Guest guest]

Dear Gururattan Kaur,

 

Wonder if I watched the clock right the other day on the BF - using a timer

today 6:30 min seemed quite enough and my airpassage was quite dry. Just the

same, think I finally caught on to the BFand it's not all that hard - thank

you.

 

I asked about the LDB because (with timer now) to breath long and deep - it is

calming to breath long and deep and do 7 breath in 6 minutes to the point of

feeling able to suspend breathing all together. That's what raised the question

in my mind that there must be a rhythm to the LDB because all the exercises

including BF are energizing. Doing the LDB I found myself staying longer and

longer in the breath to the point of not caring to breathe at all - and somehow

felt that that was not the idea here.

 

Sat Nam

 

Ruth

 

 

> LDB - is it a slow and long deep breath or

more rythmically long and deep.

 

There is not supposed to be efforting. Actually you will feel a rhythm in slow

and long and deep.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

You actually bring up a good point here Ruth. I've noticed that with

both LDB and BoF, I get to a point where I'll just sit, very relaxed

for a minute or more and not breathe. I don't feel the need for the

breath. In fact, it's so peaceful not to breathe, it was a bit scary

at first. I don't force it though. When my body feels the need, I

breathe. I don't do this during meditation/chanting though. I only do

it afterwards. But I really enjoy that feeling. Is that what you are

all referring to when you say "being with the breath"?

 

Christa

[Guest guest]

Dear Ruth and Chris,

 

We DO so we can BE. This is what is happening with the breath. You do the

exercise, breathing and then you reach a certain point where an effect has

been produced. You know this by the experiences you are relating. You

naturally want to just be with the consciousness that you have created. So

BE with it and enjoy it. When the effect wears off go to the next exercise.

This is the point of relaxation between exercises.

 

 

 

>I don't feel the need for the breath. In fact, it's so peaceful not to

breathe, it was a bit scary

at first. I don't force it though. When my body feels the need, I breathe.

 

If you really pay attention to this then it will take away your fear.because

you will connect with the reality that your body will naturally always take

in the air you need.

 

>all referring to when you say "being with the breath"?

 

Yes. And I was saying be with your breath before you start the exercises so

they will be more natural and less forced. Try this before and let us know

if the breathing exercises are different afterwards..

 

>able to suspend breathing all together. That's what raised the question in

my mind that there must be a rhythm to the LDB because all the exercises

including BF are energizing.

 

THere is a rhythm to everything. Be present and you will discover different

rhythms.

 

Doing the LDB I found myself staying longer and longer in the breath to the

point of not caring to breathe at all - and somehow felt that that was not

the idea here.

 

Depends on if you are in the DO or the BE mode.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur