Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 Often, because of my current living situation, I cannot chant loudly. In Western magickal traditions, there is something called the "Great Voice" which was traditionally used when a magician had to do work in secret for fear of persecution. For things like vibrating the name of God, which are usually done quite loud so that the whole Universe resonates with the vibration, she whispers, but tries to feel the vibration all the same. I was wondering if it would be okay if I use the same whisper w/ the intention of vibration for my mantras? Unfortunately, it is much easier for me to "stay in tune" and feel the words resonating within my body (and the World) when I can get very loud with them (and sometimes when I am having a ahrd time staying focused I never get silent at all, just keep chanting loudly the whole time) but I am not able to do that right now. Should I just expand the times so that whispering covers he normal out loud time + the whispering time and keep the same amount of silence? That is what I have been trying to do so far. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 Hi Eric, I was just relating to a friend how when I chant out loud, fearlessly and confidently, my lower back and adrenals open up and I get a heat release. This all begins with the opening of the diaphragm which allows a flow through the heart center. When the heart center is integrated than the energy flows like water overflowing a bucket, which then nourishes all systems. I am big into making sounds...personally, and after having fully projected I then go silent into Pranayama (20 - 20 - 20 breath) for 5 - 11 minutes. I like covering the full range. Additionally, if a meditation is described as having to be done aloud, there might be a reason. Also, sometimes we need to put a pressure, with our volume, on the Thyroid/parathyroid glands in the neck However, there are many meditations and Kriyas (Sodarshan Chakra Kriya being the highest, according to Yogiji) that are meant to be done silently. You can feel good about them silently as that is how they are supposed to be done. Also, there are meditations that are chanted in a normal speaking volume that can give me that same heat release ("the "Last Meditation" from Transitions is what comes to mind). I would recommend doing whatever you want but make sure your yoga is vigorous enough so that your body and being can then be in silence...... a potent and receptive silence. Use breath and give attention to the sensations. Hope that helps some, Dharam P.S. Remember that song we all sang at camp... John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt? His name is my name, too! Whenever we go out, The people always shout There goes John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt! Tra La La La La La La La (real loud) Then we would whisper in a progressively lower volume but always shouting the "Tra La La La La La La La" part. That is good way to work the eight body and then the ninth body. Very much fun and good for the lower back and your reserve energy. Eric Stiens wrote: > Often, because of my current living situation, I cannot chant loudly. In > Western magickal traditions, there is something called the "Great Voice" > which was traditionally used when a magician had to do work in secret for > fear of persecution. For things like vibrating the name of God, which are > usually done quite loud so that the whole Universe resonates with the > vibration, she whispers, but tries to feel the vibration all the same. > > I was wondering if it would be okay if I use the same whisper w/ the > intention of vibration for my mantras? Unfortunately, it is much easier for > me to "stay in tune" and feel the words resonating within my body (and the > World) when I can get very loud with them (and sometimes when I am having a > ahrd time staying focused I never get silent at all, just keep chanting > loudly the whole time) but I am not able to do that right now. > > Should I just expand the times so that whispering covers he normal out loud > time + the whispering time and keep the same amount of silence? That is what > I have been trying to do so far. > > Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Sat Nam Eric, I've lost about 80-85% of my hearing and when I read your post I thought, "His is just another kind of silence." Most of my chanting is done by feel. How the bones in my face and throat resonate is what finally tells me if I've got it right. By the way, this feels really cool if you can become aware of it! Because of my deafness, I'm very volume concious. ( I have a deaf Uncle who shouts all the time - most irritating, but he can't hear it.) I'm much more prone to be too quiet as a result. I trust that God is clever enough to pick my voice out of the crowd. Perhaps I can't hear myself call His Name, but He does hear me. Sat Nam, Leo The deaf boy transformed by sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Sat Nam Eric, Sounds like you had a kundalini melt-down day like I did last week! YIPES! One of the things I do to cope with my world is make t-shirts. I kno, it sounds weird. But, on those days when the Universe is crashing in on me and I'm certain that I'll NEVER evolve beyond well attired pond scum, I have one of my favorites. It's a white crew neck with black lettering on the front that says: KARMA'S BITCH BOY. Anyway, I put that on, it's like a yellow flag at the track! People are a litlle gentler with me, they get the humor, I get the humor, God gets the humor, and generally things begin to lighten up. Whatever means you use, keep up your sense of humor! Sat Nam, Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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